Association of Nigerian Scholars in the Diaspora: a clarification

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Toyin Falola

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Jun 7, 2019, 5:07:50 PM6/7/19
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In Toronto, words came that the impression in Abuja is that hundreds of us, including many on the Dialogue, are members.

In transit, I was told that the scholars meet regularly to review the country’s progress.

I don’t know whether this is the same organization that Dr Kperogi is talking about.

If so, the Association has to change its name. If not, a miscommunication may tarnish innocent people.

I was told that a group in Toronto wants to sue the Association for including them as members.
TF

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Farooq A. Kperogi

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Jun 7, 2019, 6:54:41 PM6/7/19
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Oga Falola,

It is the same "organization," which is more properly a dyad, as I've pointed out several times here. It is precisely because the group calls itself the "umbrella association of Nigerian scholars in the diaspora" that people reached out to me to find out if the "group" speaks for me since its unfailingly perpetual pro-regime stances are diametrically opposed to mine-- and to that of many diasporan Nigerian scholars.

I'll lend whatever support I can give to people who will seek legal redress from the two people who are scamming the Nigerian people into believing that they speak for me--and for other diasporan scholars who don't share their pro-regime propaganda. In fact, if no one proceeds with the threat to sue them, I will.

I'm glad that the larger import of my intervention is finally sinking in. I have more damming evidence against these people than I have publicly shared. I'll reveal more in a court of law since I'll be protected by what lawyers call absolute privilege.

I was beginning to lose faith in the quality of the moral consciousness of my colleagues when were quibbling over inanities instead of confronting the audacious confidence trickery and false pretenses of the dyad. 

How could anyone not see the dishonesty in two people claiming to speak for hundreds of people who have no earthly clue that they exist, who disagree with their propaganda on behalf of government? These people maligned the US State Department for calling attention to human rights abuses in Nigeria that most of us already know about. They countenanced homophobia in a previous press release, which would get many diasporan scholars in trouble. And so on.

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Kenneth Kalu

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Jun 7, 2019, 9:11:01 PM6/7/19
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Dear Prof. Falola,

Thank you for this intervention. Honestly, it has been really hard, very hard for some of us who are learners to understand how it is proper for two people to use the appellation “Association of Nigerian Scholars in Diaspora” to issue weighty public statements. 

 

Except if it is now fashionable to call a spade by a different name, many of us thought people should have stood up to say what is right. Individuals can write what they want and put their names against their views. That is their business. But I do not see how it is right, under any interpretation, to write your OWN opinions and claim it is from an Association that can easily be associated with very clear and identifiable group of people. Anybody supporting such misrepresentation must know something that majority of the people do not know.

 

Thanks again.

 

Ken

Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju

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Jun 7, 2019, 10:20:06 PM6/7/19
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So, at last Farooq's struggle agst all odds can now be clearly seen for its value.

I have often wondered why even crude dictators like Idi Amin and Sani Abacha lasted so long in their nations.

Along with the creation of a climate of fear, they had the support of various constituencies.

One of such constituencies have been malleable academics.

In retrospect, I also salute Moses Ochonu for his apology on allowing himself to be persuaded to join what has now unraveled as the significantly insincere, ethnically, special interests driven  anti-GEJ/pro-Buhari crusade and people like Ikhide Ikheloa who insisted that a critique of GEJ did not have to translate to support of Buhari, who is not better and whom history is showing to be operating at a different level of the abysmal, as a terrorist, than any leader of the nation in Nigeria's history.

May we always have people ready to stand for truth, even if they are in danger of being bruised in the public square.

toyin

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Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM

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Jun 8, 2019, 6:08:11 AM6/8/19
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Toyin,
The issue at stake to me is not the rightness or wrongness of the existence of the association and/or its legality or illegality. The issue is about tolerance of divergent tendencies.

The current Falola intervention which you are now celebrating has holes in it!

Those, who think that some or most members of this group are members of the said association (so what if they are), should be asked to do some research which would avail them of the opinions of most of the members of this group on the Buhari administration.

Associations can have two members on formation and subsequently expand from there, they do not have to contact/notify every or almost every scholar in diaspora before commencing activities. These activities are also recruitment strategies.

Those wanting to sue should make sure that they have franchise on the name, if their locus is simply that they are scholars in diaspora, their action would not make enough sense to warrant a judicial pronouncement in their favour.

Finally, as you know, I also oppose most of the policies of the Buhari administration, but I do not and would not blame every pregnancy miscarriage in Nigeria on the administration.

Thank you.

CAO.

Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM

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Jun 8, 2019, 6:09:25 AM6/8/19
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What if tomorrow, they start issuing anti-Buhari news releases, would the scholars still sue them? Would they still be "fraudulent"? Would they now become the umbrella body?

CAO.

Farooq A. Kperogi

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Jun 8, 2019, 6:10:36 AM6/8/19
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I've been neck-deep in the study of the ontogenesis and manifestations of fascism since Buhari emerged. One of the things that have struck me about fascism is the role intellectuals have historically played in propping it up, defending it, and justifying its brutalities. Many vocal elements on this listserv would have defended Hitler's and Mussolini's fascism for the right price or in the service of the insular, self-interested agendas of their regions.

I raised a credible alarm about a univocal case of fraud by a dyadic pro-regime propaganda sqaud, which is falsely appropriating the symbolic capital of Nigerian scholars in the diaspora, but people chose instead to quible about inane, tangential, unproductive minutiae.

That's how intellectuals fertilize tyrannies. And we can see that in the unfolding Buhari tyranny. It's being cheerled and firmed up by mercenary, conscienceless scholars many of whom are on this listserv.

As I said to someone in a private discussion on this issue recently, it's impossible for me to bring myself to respect anyone who defends, justifies, or attenuates unambiguous fraud or naked tyranny. That's the way I was raised. My late dad brought me up from an impressionable age to have zero tolerance for lies, scams, and injustice. That's why people with high tolerance for fraud find me to be an extremist, but I'm fine with that.

My name, Farooq, means one who distinguishes truth from falsehood. I've internalized this signification of my name since I was at least 3. At 46, it's too late for me to change and accept the licentious moral relativism that pretends that there can be a redeeming feature in habitual fraudsters or the fraud they perpetrate.

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Michael Afolayan

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Jun 8, 2019, 6:11:59 AM6/8/19
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Folks:

Seriously, if it can be established that this organization is a duo effort, I think there is a strong case for blatant misrepresentation against it if it continues to speak for Nigerians in the Diaspora. I'm convinced that a Cease and Desist (C & D) letter would be in order at this point and could be sent to the group if it has an address. I believe there is a newly commissioned Nigeria Diaspora Committee in the Nigerian Senate with one Hon. Abike Dabiri as its Chairperson, and Ms. Dabiri and her committee could be copied with the proposed letter. 

The question is who does the writing of such C & D letter when in reality there is no formal Diaspora organization for Nigerian scholars? A lone legal effort as suggested by Farooq might be daunting and expensive with limited hope of success granted its lacking a strong locus standi. Ojogbon TF is a well known face as moderator of the USA-Africa Dialogue listserv, the closest to an organized informal marketplace of ideas among Nigerian/African scholars. Could he put together a few individuals to investigate this matter and release the said C & D within one week or two, at most? Could there be an open letter signed by all interested Nigerians abroad disclaiming the duo effort and publishing it on online fora? 

I just pity the lone crusade effort of Farooq Kperogi. Of course, as the cliché goes, it's a dirty job and someone's got to do it, but I think it's time more hands get on deck. That way, the matter becomes a corporate burden, not a cumbersome load heaved on one man's head.

Just my own thinking . . . 

Michael O. Afoláyan






Ibukunolu A Babajide

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Jun 8, 2019, 8:25:53 AM6/8/19
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Ken and Toyin,

You are both on the wrong side of logic and reason. 

Toyin, your obsequious support for GEJ and open hatred of Buhari is the real reason why the If I Amins of Africa thrive. 

Ken, if two or more notable scholars write on their own and other's behalf who are you to denigrate them? Are you forced to belong to their association or agree with them?

Deploy your views. Do not join that Farooq Kperogi who is a paid Atiku mouthpiece to denigrate eminent and respected academics. 

Freedom of association allows any two or more people to come together and call themselves what they wish to be known as. I encourage you to go to a court of law to challenge their name and existence. 

You must be careful not to be influenced by petty and lazy intellects who overstate themselves but whose contributions are not more than Shakespeare's apt coinage, a tale told by an idiot full of sound abd fury signifying nothing. 

Cheers. 


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OLAYINKA AGBETUYI

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Toy in.

This is why I categorize you as a bigot. The whole list serve is my witness ( including some people from the East your usual supporters in this sort of argument.)  Your struggle throughout has been that a southern leader had been dislodged by an inferior northern leader.  What made GEJ a better leader than Buhari?  Because he is not Fulani?  So you would have preferred GEJ to exploit a lacuna in The Nigerian Constitution to effectively get three terms while northerners are thereby left in the cold for such a legthy period out of power simply because a southerner is the beneficiary.  Why all the hue and cry against northern military hegemony during the military era then?  You are a classic example of Nietzches position that when the oppressed ask for redress they are not asking for equity and fairness but a reversal of positions. Hence the oporessor should not relent.  Well both you and Neitzche are wrong!

Yes IIkheloa may have said critique of GEJ ought not to have translated to endorsement of Buhari.  Which better candidate was put forward?  Moses has gone  beyond the apology you credit to him which made him one of your Buhari- hate acolytes.  As a true scholar he has examined why the Nigerian system is to blame for producing ineffective leaders.  Farooq too has joined the followership ( inadvertently) in who is to blame for poor leadeship as prompted by the Chief (TF)

So you are now left all alone in this business of bigotry as you originally were before fortuitously snapping at temporary allies provided by sudden twists of events which you grab as poof of your prophetic prescience.

You were citing Danjuma and Obasanjo and not the level headed intellectual disposition of Iyorchia Ayu. Danjuma was speaking as a believed soldier with the mentality of a soldier which is basically all he was in his publuc life.  Obasanjo' s views are not reliable on this account because he was hand in glove in creating the Fulanisation foisted on the country by ensuring both leader and opposition leader are Fulani in his miscalculated attempt to get rid of Buhari for not listening to his dictates.  Aare Abiola has identified this trait of always wanting to be the power behind the throne by Obasanjo  in his own bid for the presidency.

Go on with your unhelpful divisive campaign of ethnic bigotry. The Nigerian nation will rise above and beyond you and leave you behind!


OAA.



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So, at last Farooq's struggle agst all odds can now be clearly seen for its value.

I have often wondered why even crude dictators like Idi Amin and Sani Abacha lasted so long in their nations.

Along with the creation of a climate of fear, they had the support of various constituencies.

One of such constituencies have been malleable academics.

In retrospect, I also salute Moses Ochonu for his apology on allowing himself to be persuaded to join what has now unraveled as the significantly insincere, ethnically, special interests driven  anti-GEJ/pro-Buhari crusade and people like Ikhide Ikheloa who insisted that a critique of GEJ did not have to translate to support of Buhari, who is not better and whom history is showing to be operating at a different level of the abysmal, as a terrorist, than any leader of the nation in Nigeria's history.

May we always have people ready to stand for truth, even if they are in danger of being bruised in the public square.

toyin

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OLAYINKA AGBETUYI

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At least Buhari will not rule forever if Obasanjo could not.  That is the essential difference from Mussoluni's Italy and Hitler's Germany ( I studied both)  Time will tell who is right!

OAA



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I've been neck-deep in the study of the ontogenesis and manifestations of fascism since Buhari emerged. One of the things that have struck me about fascism is the role intellectuals have historically played in propping it up, defending it, and justifying its brutalities. Many vocal elements on this listserv would have defended Hitler's and Mussolini's fascism for the right price or in the service of the insular, self-interested agendas of their regions.

I raised a credible alarm about a univocal case of fraud by a dyadic pro-regime propaganda sqaud, which is falsely appropriating the symbolic capital of Nigerian scholars in the diaspora, but people chose instead to quible about inane, tangential, unproductive minutiae.

That's how intellectuals fertilize tyrannies. And we can see that in the unfolding Buhari tyranny. It's being cheerled and firmed up by mercenary, conscienceless scholars many of whom are on this listserv.

As I said to someone in a private discussion on this issue recently, it's impossible for me to bring myself to respect anyone who defends, justifies, or attenuates unambiguous fraud or naked tyranny. That's the way I was raised. My late dad brought me up from an impressionable age to have zero tolerance for lies, scams, and injustice. That's why people with high tolerance for fraud find me to be an extremist, but I'm fine with that.

My name, Farooq, means one who distinguishes truth from falsehood. I've internalized this signification of my name since I was at least 3. At 46, it's too late for me to change and accept the licentious moral relativism that pretends that there can be a redeeming feature in habitual fraudsters or the fraud they perpetrate.

Farooq


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Emeagwali, Gloria (History)

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Maybe the law should change but right now it is legal to have an association of two and they can even call themselves
The Association of Scholars of the Universe.
Members of the public can also scrutinize the goals and agenda of any organization and give their opinion. I have criticized the  IMF
The World Bank etc. but I don't have the right to dismantle the organization.
So another organization called The Real Association of Nigerian Scholars should be formed and that too can be superseded.
F is right to raise his concerns but the Association also has a right to exist and may be seen as evolving towards membership expansion. What if the Association had a membership of 2000 persons with similar views and
stated the same thing?
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Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju

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i am not pleased i wrote this line in my last response to Olayinka Agbetuyi-

'I dont expect you to bcs you dont have the stamina.'

a person does not have to be keen on prolonging debates all the time.

i also recall that i have found Olayinka very stimulating as an interlocutor, particularly when he is critiquing  my position.

my essay series on ogboni began as a response to a critique by himself and  another member on this group.

thanks

toyin


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Olayinka,

Stop invoking the so called entire listserve and speak for yourself.

Focus on strategic issues.

Your President is a terrorist.

He has long demonstrated the mindset of a terrorist that is why I will always detest him as long as he remains so.

Whatever his limitations, GEJ did not empower Niger Delta militants on a terrorist derive across Nigeria.

You demanded  I  demonstrate that Miyetti Allah Fulani Socio-Cultural Organisation has severally owned up to and justified massacres by Fulani herdsmen militia.

I did so.

You demanded I demonstrate that various Fulani organisations have celebrated and publicly identified with that strategy.

I did that.

You are yet to respond to my demonstration.

Buhari is yet to question, talk less arrest Miyetti Allah leadership, at the apex of which are the Sultan of Sokoto and the Emir of Kano, an organisation that is able to defy the laws of states and the entire country and walk free, covered in  the blood of hundreds, if not more, of innocent Nigerians.

Whatever is being said by T.Y Danjuma, Olusegun Obasanjo, Apostle Suleiman and other Nigerians who have last woken up in the afternoon of a bloody day, I have been saying since 2015 and knew of it well before 2015.

Bros, focus on my allegation of a terrorist drive across Nigeria by right wing Fulani as demonstrated by the evidence of the actions of Miyetti Allah and other Fulani organisations with Buhari as the coordinator of this initiative.

I anticipate your effort to take apart my demonstration of Miyetti Allah and other Fulani organisations justifying massacres of innocent Nigerians by Fulani herdsmen militia and the implications of this development.

I dont expect you to bcs you dont have the stamina.

You normally rely on Salimonu Kadiri, another denier of reality but even Kadiri realizes  that the battle agst reality has been lost.

Please speak for your self and challenge the evidence I have provided.

Its not about calling anyone names, its about examining history as to its facts and implications.

I await, sir.

Toyin





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OLAYINKA AGBETUYI

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Oga MOA

I think you asked in a separate post if apoligiescshould not be tendered tovFarouk instead.  Let's start from there.

A newspaper hired a university teacher to write  columns against a legitimate government casting aspersions on its legitimacy among other things and is paid to do so.  This is actually legitimate in a democracy.

The columnist cones.up with a write up accusing another group ( two is actually lexically a group with a rider duo showing which type of group we are talking about) of having been paid to laud the activities of government ( either by amplification or hyperbolic gesture or verbatim). This is also allowed in democracies from the Capitol Hill to the Bosphorus.  On Capitol Hill it is calked lobbying.

The columnist seeks to disable its antagonist by labelling it fraudulent and not faithful to the facts.  Problem is in the service of his paymasters the columnist himself is not always faithful to facts.

Questions: should we be biased in favour of either of the two sides of the democratic practice?  That is even given that the association WAS PAID to do the bidding of government for which the columnist supplied no proof expecting we take his word for it.

For what reason is apologies due to Farouk?


Second, on iwhat grounds would the association be proscribed in Nigeria if it is not based in Nigeria and is funding has not been proven to be from the Nigerian public purse?


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Folks:

Seriously, if it can be established that this organization is a duo effort, I think there is a strong case for blatant misrepresentation against it if it continues to speak for Nigerians in the Diaspora. I'm convinced that a Cease and Desist (C & D) letter would be in order at this point and could be sent to the group if it has an address. I believe there is a newly commissioned Nigeria Diaspora Committee in the Nigerian Senate with one Hon. Abike Dabiri as its Chairperson, and Ms. Dabiri and her committee could be copied with the proposed letter. 

The question is who does the writing of such C & D letter when in reality there is no formal Diaspora organization for Nigerian scholars? A lone legal effort as suggested by Farooq might be daunting and expensive with limited hope of success granted its lacking a strong locus standi. Ojogbon TF is a well known face as moderator of the USA-Africa Dialogue listserv, the closest to an organized informal marketplace of ideas among Nigerian/African scholars. Could he put together a few individuals to investigate this matter and release the said C & D within one week or two, at most? Could there be an open letter signed by all interested Nigerians abroad disclaiming the duo effort and publishing it on online fora? 

I just pity the lone crusade effort of Farooq Kperogi. Of course, as the cliché goes, it's a dirty job and someone's got to do it, but I think it's time more hands get on deck. That way, the matter becomes a corporate burden, not a cumbersome load heaved on one man's head.

Just my own thinking . . . 

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