Hi Farooq
Thanks again for this fascinating work. A brief word on naming ceremonies for jews. I don’t think it is enormously common, probably since baptisms and christianing ceremonies are so firmly linked to Christianity.
But they are performed, and not just by the orthodox. It is a kind of celebration that a baby has come into the family, and I’ve seen these brief ceremonies or celebrations often enough at the synagogue.
ken
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
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Prof Kperogi,
Mighty Congratulations to you and your Better Half and the rest of the family on the safe arrival of your beloved daughter Ramat Orelia Kperogi on 25th of February this year. Masha Allah! A special congratulations to her, e-specially.
Re " What I have learned, though, after writing the article you referred to, is that Orthodox Jews also call the christening of their children a “naming ceremony”—like we do in (Muslim) Nigeria"
Do Orthodox Jews christen their children? I shall ask Rabbi Tovia Singer
I don't know, but I suppose that those who call themselves Orthodox or unorthodox Jews and those who say, " we are Muslims " and the Hindus, Buddhists etc. would normally take offence at being asked about the "christening" of their children or being asked what is their Christian name. Not to cause offence I think that the proper enquiry for the latter ought to be " What is your first name?" since Jews and Muslims,Hindus, and Buddhists etc. are not Christian/s and even if a great many Jews could have what sounds like Christian names such as "Paul", "John" "James" even "Cornelius"...
Should I get married? Should I be Good?
Astound the
girl next door with my velvet suit and faustaus hood?
Don't
take her to movies but to cemeteries ...." ( Gregory
Corso: Marriage
The cemetery should be a good place for the bad line to propose these perfect lines written in Her Majesty's English:
"Thy beauty shall no more be found;
Nor, in thy marble vault, shall sound
My echoing song; then worms shall try
That long-preserved virginity,
And your quaint honour turn to dust,
And into ashes all my lust;
The grave’s a fine and private place,
But none, I think, do there embrace. .." ( Andrew Marvell : To His Coy Mistress
With regard to the second enquiry about "Disvirgin"(which should normally take place after the vows of holy matrimony) here's a list of synonyms for deflower in the sensitive subject of who was the first man to land on the moon..
There is of course some overlap between the much older Saro English/ Broken / Patois( Creole/ Krio which shares many points of contact with the recent Naija English which is much closer in to Her Majesty's English Language in terms of grammatical structure, pronunciation etc. In the Creole/ Krio of my contemporaries you would have some guy beating his chest and boasting, "Nah mi devirginate am !"
N.B. Girls have to be protected from bad guys...
I guess that all by itself, " Do you mind?" in a certain tone of voice could mean irritation? Indignation ? Like " I beg your pardon?"
I don’t know how many people on this list are amazed at cornelius’s incredibly encyclopediac knowledge of literature. Who wouldda thunk that Gregory corso and Andrew marwell would make their appearances here, especially on the topic of “deflowering”!!
Such a quaint notion, to boot
k
Kenneth Harrow
Dept of English and Film Studies
http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/
From: usaafricadialogue <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Cornelius Hamelberg <cornelius...@gmail.com>
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Date: Sunday 5 March 2017 at 16:51
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Dear Professor Harrow,
There you go again. You like to provoke, but It's alright. Please feel free to say anything, anything at all, about the commonplace, the pedestrian, the lost or found.
Professor Toyin Falola's eulogies to our saints of the academe make me tremble.
I read this commentary - extraordinary introductory words to this past Sabbath's Torah Portion : Torah Studies: Terumah
I'm ready to ask Rabbi Tovia Singer some difficult questions.
The Sufis have this tradition about Khidr said to have been the teacher of Moses.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we all could have met a Khidr or have a Maggid in our lives ?
But we have HASHEM who is with us round the clock
even when some are eating pork...
Unfortunately, I have spent the last two decades on Torah Study, Midrash etc. Israeli music & "Jewish" Literature (all genres, poetry especially) and precious little on what is infinitely more important : Halacha - so I'm now immersed in and completely humbled by the body & sexual purity etc. required in Kitzur Shulchan Aruch and some of this stuff - prior to which - I know where I am "internally" and that's why on the contrary, humble, modest and of no special spiritual attainment whatsoever, far be it from me to want to give the impression that I'm holier than anybody, since I'm not. Autobiographically speaking , I've got stuck. I'm suffering, agonising immensely, stuck on the mistakes I made in 1970 and in 1973 and find it very difficult to write about such honestly and to move on....
My current master of rhythm and melody combined is Pierre Mandjeku Lengo - as testified by his solo in "Equation Noni" and Ramazani ( before ) - and lately as testified by his solo "Le Pomba" in Didier-Milla Bandjo's "Avant-Goût" (with Bendo, Madilu, Reddy, Mascot, Styno L'As, Papa Wemba)
I have had and still have many teachers, inspirations. No snakes.
Who knows, in the Olam Ha-ba after all the heartfelt poetic prayers we may have to
"make some joyful sounds unto the Lord"
Sincerely,
Cornelius