Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!

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Pius Adesanmi

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Here is the link again:

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Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 2:29


Folks, be warned. Do not watch this youtube clip near your kids. Read the comments after watching the clip for details... what is Nigeria coming to? Professor in a compromised situation. Students turning it into an opportunity for extorsion and yahoo-yahoo. Crime jam crime! What kind of society is this? Youtube will disable this soon if you don't watch it quickly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_embedded


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Segun et al:

Please educate me. What is a 400 level student in the current
 Nigerian educational system?

I am hoping, really hoping that a 400 level student is not a university student.
Or is it?

Also hoping and really hoping that the lecturer, the girl and the other students are
affiliated with UNIBEN?

Let us hope they are students in the equivalent of what used to be called
Modern Schools during my days in Nigeria.

If these turn out to be university undergraduates, then Oby Ezekwesili's 'cries'
during her brief tenure as Minister of Education would  not only have been
well contextualized but also justified.

The student's hostel looks like a brothel!


We are really in trouble!


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Looks more like a case of Entrapment. On top, I saw many crimes perpetuated by the Judith girl and her accomplices from Assault/Battery, Kidnapping, Blackmailing, Extortion, Larceny, etc all caught on tape. In other societies, the students will be going to jail. The key to an entrapment is the girl taking a picture with the dude pants down and wrapping her arms around him voluntarily which is an unusual behavior. Very despicable acts.

While one doesn't support the lecturer, it is obvious that he was lured into a lion's den to be devoured and he bought the bait because of his stupidity. If he has a history of molesting young girls, nemesis will catch up with him in many other ways.

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Pius,

The video is no more on youtube. If you downloaded it, you can make it available to some of us who did not see it as a video file here. It would be great appreciated.

Greetings

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Unfortunately Guys,
 
The video was removed by YouTube Management due " terms of use violation"
 
We sure would have liked to view this despicable scene.
 
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I dont see this video as clarifying what actually took place.The circumstances that took the man there are not clear.Is it blackmail,was he lured there in innocence or he wanted to take advantage of the girl? Or the girl wanted to take advantage of him?

Students in Nigerian universities also offer themselves to lecturers apart from lecturers preying on them.

We do not have adequate evidence to decipher what actually happened.

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hi go to http://nairasource.com/index.php?topic=4386.msg5716;topicseen#msg5716 its streaming live in this site.

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Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,

How many times I call you?  Now that you have seen the video, I must ask: what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before you believe?

Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male students grumbling loudly about wetin  lecturers don take im eye see, and you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can take a position.

Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty. The students who turn the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear, unambiguous, and strong terms.

Pius


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Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,

How many times I call you?  Now that you have seen the video, I must ask: what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before you believe?

Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male students grumbling loudly about wetin  lecturers don take im eye see, and you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can take a position.

Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty The students who turn the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear, unambiguous, and strong terms.


Pius


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The video is funny as hell. What can I say? I wish we had this level of internet/video technology penetration (no pun intended) in Nigeria in my undergraduate days. All those dirty old men who defiled some of my female undergraduate classmates would have had to answer to youtube.

Yes, the extortion stinks, but our youth are getting desperate and finding new ways of getting back at their traducers, and they are doing it in the cheapest, crudest way possible. Now if only they'll start naming and visually shaming our rulers. Next stop should be Abuja and the next target should be our thieving, randy politicians and bureaucrats. Let's get more cameras to these guys and get them to turn their lenses on Abuja. This is child's play compared to what they'll unearth.

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another title comes to mind: the blue angel
ken
Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,

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as i said, nollywood.
there is a relationship. every line in this description could sell the next script. why not?
let's see, we could call it.... Death of a Black President?

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Pius,

I spent decades in Benin so my pidgin  is very good.

You are a scholar of the arts.You know that  scenarios can be staged.Have you taught in a Nigerian university? I have and I know from personal experience that students can do almost anything.You need to be very careful with them.Take nothing for granted.

Could the poor man not have been lured there for any reason and forced to strip under threats in the name of extortion? 

In  my case,referring to my own experience what would have happened if I had taken up on her implied offer the girl who asked me to look at her breasts  while demanding to know her marks and came to see me during the holidays asking for the same information?  A girl who would come late to lectures and display herself as she  walked majestically into class?Lets assume I followed  her to  her room and met a set up? Lets assume that at the moment of action the trap was sprung. .One could be caught helpless,psychologically disoriented,and open to a broad range of manipulation. May such an evil scenario not befall us.

Or the story I heard of the student who instead of answering an exam question  proceeded to describe in her exam paper what she could do  to the vital organs of the male lecturer if given the opportunity?


Or the beautiful female student who bit my arm in an exam hall because I refused to agree to her begging to be let off the hook when I caught her cheating The option of exchanging sex for a promise not to report her was one possibility.If that option had been pursued both the  lecturer and student would have been guilty but who would be the oppressor there?


Or the students who used to come to my house to beg me not report that I found them cheating in exams? Or those who  would visit me in my house to appeal to me to pass them after they had written the  exams?


Imagine all the compromising possibilities emerging from my finding unwanted female visitors on my doorstep.


If I narrate the full range of possibilities from real life scenarios you will get   tired.


I expect lectures take advantage of students.I expect lecturers sleep with students they are teaching,both of which scenarios I consider wrong.It is difficult to convince me,however,that sleeping with an adult student one is not teaching,in a concensual scenario, is necessarily  wrong although it could lead to complications.To claim total abstinence on that front,however,to me,is unrealistic and possibly hypocritical.



Now,lets look at another scenario.This man might have been offered  sex and  went there to claim it. Perhaps in relation to what was offered the girl was trying to demand more than he was ready to provide-marks,money etc and her accomplices set him up to extort him.

This scenario can be read in various ways   indicating  that we should not take anything we see in the video at face value.

Personally I have difficulty being excited about this video,perhaps because I have seen a worse situation.At the University of Benin a group of students led by the student union president kidnapped a lecturer and tried him in a court they set up,a rowdy affair that put the whole university in a frenzy.The lecturer was accused of serial victimisation of female students.The lecturer was powerless as the students were a desperate looking mob.They could have done anything to the man if they wanted to and in fear of his life he might have complied.Lets assume they made a video of that will all kinds of allegations plus extortion of money in return for his life or health of limb.As it is we would be seeing it only from the students perspective and not hear from the lecturer.

As it is,the entire scenario and the allegations against the lecturer were never properly investigated as far as I know.ASUU,the academic union, and the vice-chancellor,who was perceived as not being agile about the investigations,fell out on this issue,if I remember well the eventual outcome.

In almost any setting where male and female adults   congregate in terms of physical contact sex  is part of the equation and this creates various complications of possibility and perspective. We need to be  particularly careful when interpreting sexual scenarios.  Women have  been known to frame men for rape after consensual sex and destroy the poor man's career.

I prefer to get to the bottom of this story rather than assuming things on face value.

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On 23 July 2010 20:41, Pius Adesanmi <piusad...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,
>
> How many times I call you? Now that you have seen the video, I must ask:
> what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe
> dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys
> outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your
> pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other
> evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick
> actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before
> you believe?
>
> Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a
> female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he
> had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male
> students grumbling loudly about wetin lecturers don take im eye see, and
> you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can
> take a position.
>
> Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty. The students who turn
> the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are
> also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop
> asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear,
> unambiguous, and strong terms.
>
> Pius
>
>

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>
>
> From: toyin adepoju <toyin....@googlemail.com>
> Subject: [Naijaintellects] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: NIDOA | Re:
> Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
> To: NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com, "bimbola adelakun" <
> adunn...@yahoo.com>
> Cc: usaafric...@googlegroups.com, naijain...@googlegroups.com,
> "Pius Adesanmi" <piusad...@yahoo.com>, "Edo-nationality" <
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> Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 20:24
>
>
> I dont see this video as clarifying what actually took place.The
> circumstances that took the man there are not clear.Is it blackmail,was he
> lured there in innocence or he wanted to take advantage of the girl? Or the
> girl wanted to take advantage of him?
>
> Students in Nigerian universities also offer themselves to lecturers apart
> from lecturers preying on them.
>
> We do not have adequate evidence to decipher what actually happened.
>
> thanks
> toyin
>
>
>

> On 23 July 2010 20:19, toyin adepoju <toyin....@googlemail.com<http://mc/compose?to=toyin....@googlemail.com>


> > wrote:
>
> Bimbola's Facebook account is here
>
> but you might need a Facebook account to watch it.
>
> http://www.facebook.com/Adunnibabe?ref=search
>
> thanks
> toyin
>

> On 23 July 2010 20:18, toyin adepoju <toyin....@googlemail.com<http://mc/compose?to=toyin....@googlemail.com>


> > wrote:
>
> you can watch it on bimbola adelakun's facebook account.
> thanks Bimbola.We really appreciate this provision of information.
> toyin
>
>

> On 23 July 2010 14:10, <akino...@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=akino...@yahoo.com>


> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Unfortunately Guys,
>
> The video was removed by YouTube Management due " terms of use violation"
>
> We sure would have liked to view this despicable scene.
>
> Akin Akanji
>
>

> --- On *Thu, 7/22/10, Pius Adesanmi <piusad...@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=piusad...@yahoo.com>
> >* wrote:


>
>
> From: Pius Adesanmi <piusad...@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=piusad...@yahoo.com>
> >
> Subject: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's
> room... all on youtube!
>

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> >
> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 7:03 PM
>
>
>
> Here is the link again:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_embedded
>

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> wrote:


>
> From: Pius Adesanmi <piusad...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=piusadesanmi%40yahoo.com>
> >
> Subject: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on
> youtube!

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> >
> Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 2:29
>
> Folks, be warned. Do not watch this youtube clip near your kids. Read the
> comments after watching the clip for details... what is Nigeria coming to?
> Professor in a compromised situation. Students turning it into an
> opportunity for extorsion and yahoo-yahoo. Crime jam crime! What kind of
> society is this? Youtube will disable this soon if you don't watch it
> quickly.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_embedded
>
> Pius
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Toyin my brother:

How do you stage a Professor's naked dick inside the bedroom of a female student in Ekpoma? If I don't stop you in your track quick quick, by this evening you will quietly sneak in Baudrillard and begin to talk of simulacrum. I know you, my brother.

Well, if you gyrate in that direction as I suspect you inevitable will, remember that we have an explanation for Baudrillard and his simulacrum in Pidgin hermeneutics: we call it korokoro! I wonder why you are disavowing the theory of korokoro vision in this video right before your eyes?

Moses: I say a big AMEN to your wish that our youth should train those cameras on the randy dicks of our corrupt and worthless rulers in Abuja and the state capitals. Imagine how happy one would have been today if this thing had happened to a Governor, a Federal Rep, a Senator or a Minister!


Pius





--- On Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <toyin....@googlemail.com> wrote:

From: toyin adepoju <toyin....@googlemail.com>
Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: NIDOA | | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
To: "Pius Adesanmi" <piusad...@yahoo.com>
Cc: NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com, naijain...@googlegroups.com, usaafric...@googlegroups.com, "Edo-nationality" <edo-nat...@yahoogroups.com>, "naijap...@yahoogroups.com" <naijap...@yahoogroups.com>, "WoleSoyinkaSociety" <WoleSoyin...@yahoogroups.com>, "naijao...@yahoogroups.com" <naijao...@yahoogroups.com>, "Nidoa" <ni...@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 21:49

Pius,


I spent decades in Benin so my pidgin  is very good.

You are a scholar of the arts.You know that  scenarios can be staged.Have you taught in a Nigerian university ? I have and I know from personal experience  that students  can do almost anything. You need to be very careful with them.Take nothing for granted.

Could the poor man not have been lured there for any reason and forced to strip under threats in the name of extortion? 

In  my case,referring to my own experience  what would have happened if I had taken up on her implied offer the girl who asked me to look at her breasts  while demanding  to know her marks and came to see me during the holidays asking for the same information?   A girl who would come late to lectures and display herself as she  walked majestically into class?Lets assume I followed  her  to  her room and met  a set up? Lets assume that at the moment of action the trap was sprung. .One could be caught helpless, psychologically disoriented, and open to a broad range of manipulation. May such an evil scenario  not befall us.

Or the story I heard of the student who instead of answering an exam question  proceeded to describe in her exam paper what she could do  to the vital organs of the male lecturer if given the opportunity?


Or the beautiful female student who bit my arm in an exam hall because I refused to agree to her begging to be let off the hook when I caught her cheating The option of exchanging  sex for a promise not to report her was one possibility. If that option had been pursued both the  lecturer and student  would have been guilty but who would be the oppressor there?


Or the students who used to come to my house to beg me not report that I found them cheating in exams? Or those who  would visit me in my house to appeal to me to pass them after they had written the  exams?


Imagine all the compromising  possibilities  emerging from my finding unwanted female visitors on my doorstep.


If I narrate the full range of possibil ities from real life scenarios  you will get   tired.


I expect lectures take advantage  of students.I expect lecturers sleep with students they are teaching,both of which scenarios  I consider wrong.It is difficult to convince me,however,that sleeping with an adult student one is not teaching,in a concensual scenario, is necessarily   wrong although it could lead to complications. To claim total abstinence  on that front,however, to me,is unrealistic and possibly hypocritica l.



Now,lets look at another scenario.This man might have been offered  sex and  went there to claim it. Perhaps in relation to what was offered the girl was trying to demand more than he was ready to provide-marks, money etc and her accomplices  set him up to extort him.

This scenario can be read in various ways   indicating  that we should not take anything  we see in the video at face value.

Personally I have difficulty  being excited about this video,perhaps  because I have seen a worse situation. At the University of Benin a group of students led by the student union  president kidnapped a lecturer and tried him in a court they set up,a rowdy affair that put the whole university  in a frenzy.The lecturer was accused of  serial victimisat ion of female  students. The lecturer was powerless  as the students were a desperate looking mob.They could have done anything to the man if they wanted to and in fear of his life he might have complied. Lets assume  they made a video of that will all kinds of allegations plus extortion  of money in return for his life or health of limb.As it is we would be seeing it only from the  students perspect ive and not hear from  the lecturer.

As it is,the entire scenario  and the allegations against  the lecturer were  never properly investigated as far as I know.ASUU,the academic union, and the vice-chancellor, who was perceived as not being agile about the investigations, fell out on this issue,if I remember well the eventual outcome.

In almost any setting where  male and female adults   congregate in terms of physical contact sex  is part of the equation and this creates various complication s of possibility  and perspective.  We need to be  particularly careful when interpreting  sexual scenarios.  Women have  been known to frame men for rape after consensual  sex and destroy the poor man's career.

I prefer to get to the bottom of this story rather than assuming  things on face  value.

thanks
toyin




On 23 July 2010 20:41, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,

How many times I call you?  Now that you have seen the video, I must ask: what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before you believe?

Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male students grumbling loudly about wetin  lecturers don take im eye see, and you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can take a position.

Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty. The students who turn the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear, unambiguous, and strong terms.

Pius


--- On Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com> wrote:

From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com>
Subject: [Naijaintellects] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum ] Re: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
To: NIgerianWorldForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bimbola adelakun" <adunnibabe@yahoo. com>
Cc: usaafricadialogue@ googlegroups. com, naijaintellects@ googlegroups. com, "Pius Adesanmi" <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com>, "Edo-nationality" <edo-nationality@ yahoogroups. com>, "naijapolitics@ yahoogroups. com" <naijapolitics@ yahoogroups. com>, "WoleSoyinkaSociety" <WoleSoyinkaSociety@ yahoogroups. com>, "naijaobserver@ yahoogroups. com" <naijaobserver@ yahoogroups. com>, "Nidoa" <nidoa@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 20:24


I dont see this video as clarifying what actually took place.The circumstances that took the man there are not clear.Is it blackmail,was he lured there in innocence or he wanted to take advantage  of the girl? Or the girl wanted to take advantage  of him?

Students in Nigerian universitie s also offer themselves  to lecturers apart from lecturers preying on them.

We do not have adequate  evidence to decipher what actually happened.

thanks
toyin



On 23 July 2010 20:19, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com> wrote:
Bimbola's Facebook account is here

but you might need a Facebook account to watch it.
On 23 July 2010 20:18, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com> wrote:
you can watch it on bimbola adelakun's facebook account.
thanks Bimbola.We really appreciate  this provision of information.
toyin


On 23 July 2010 14:10, <akinoakanji@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunately Guys,
 
The video was removed by YouTube Management due " terms of use violation"
 
We sure would have liked to view this despicable scene.
 
Akin Akanji


--- On Thu, 7/22/10, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com>
Subject: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 7:03 PM
--- On Fri, 23/7/10, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
To: usaafricadialogue@ googlegroups. com, naijaintellects@ googlegroups. com
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Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 2:29

Folks, be warned. Do not watch this youtube clip near your kids. Read the comments after watching the clip for details... what is Nigeria coming to? Professor in a compromised situation. Students turning it into an opportunity for extorsion and yahoo-yahoo. Crime jam crime! What kind of society is this? Youtube will disable this soon if you don't watch it quickly.

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_ embedded

Pius


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Toyin my brother:

How do you stage a Professor's naked dick inside the bedroom of a female student in Ekpoma? If I don't stop you in your track quick quick, by this evening you will quietly sneak in Baudrillard and begin to talk of simulacrum. I know you, my brother.

Well, if you gyrate in that direction as I suspect you inevitable will, remember that we have an explanation for Baudrillard and his simulacrum in Pidgin hermeneutics: we call it korokoro! I wonder why you are disavowing the theory of korokoro vision in this video right before your eyes?

Moses: I say a big AMEN to your wish that our youth should train those cameras on the randy dicks of our corrupt and worthless rulers in Abuja and the state capitals. Imagine how happy one would have been today if this thing had happened to a Governor, a Federal Rep, a Senator or a Minister!

Pius





--- On Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <toyin....@googlemail.com> wrote:

From: toyin adepoju <toyin....@googlemail.com>
Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: NIDOA | | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
To: "Pius Adesanmi" <piusad...@yahoo.com>

Pius,


I spent decades in Benin so my pidgin  is very good.

You are a scholar of the artsYou know that  scenarios can be staged.Have you taught in a Nigerian university ? I have and I know from personal experience  that students  can do almost anything. You need to be very careful with them.Take nothing for granted.

Could the poor man not have been lured there for any reason and forced to strip under threats in the name of extortion? 

In  my case,referring to my own experience  what would have happened if I had taken up on her implied offer the girl who asked me to look at her breasts  while demanding  to know her marks and came to see me during the holidays asking for the same information?   A girl who would come late to lectures and display herself as she  walked majestically into class?Lets assume I followed  her  to  her room and met  a set up? Lets assume that at the moment of action the trap was sprung. One could be caught helpless, psychologically disoriented, and open to a broad range of manipulation. May such an evil scenario  not befall us.

Or the story I heard of the student who instead of answering an exam question  proceeded to describe in her exam paper what she could do  to the vital organs of the male lecturer if given the opportunity?


Or the beautiful female student who bit my arm in an exam hall because I refused to agree to her begging to be let off the hook when I caught her cheating The option of exchanging  sex for a promise not to report her was one possibility. If that option had been pursued both the  lecturer and student  would have been guilty but who would be the oppressor there?


Or the students who used to come to my house to beg me not report that I found them cheating in exams? Or those who  would visit me in my house to appeal to me to pass them after they had written the  exams?


Imagine all the compromising  possibilities  emerging from my finding unwanted female visitors on my doorstep.


If I narrate the full range of possibil ities from real life scenarios  you will get   tired.


I expect lectures take advantage  of students.I expect lecturers sleep with students they are teaching,both of which scenarios  I consider wrong.It is difficult to convince me,however,that sleeping with an adult student one is not teaching,in a concensual scenario, is necessarily   wrong although it could lead to complications. To claim total abstinence  on that front,however, to me,is unrealistic and possibly hypocritica l.



Now,lets look at another scenario.This man might have been offered  sex and  went there to claim it. Perhaps in relation to what was offered the girl was trying to demand more than he was ready to provide-marks, money etc and her accomplices  set him up to extort him.

This scenario can be read in various ways   indicating  that we should not take anything  we see in the video at face value.

Personally I have difficulty  being excited about this video,perhaps  because I have seen a worse situation. At the University of Benin a group of students led by the student union  president kidnapped a lecturer and tried him in a court they set up,a rowdy affair that put the whole university  in a frenzy.The lecturer was accused of  serial victimisat ion of female  students. The lecturer was powerless  as the students were a desperate looking mob.They could have done anything to the man if they wanted to and in fear of his life he might have complied. Lets assume  they made a video of that will all kinds of allegations plus extortion  of money in return for his life or health of limb.As it is we would be seeing it only from the  students perspect ive and not hear from  the lecturer.

As it is,the entire scenario  and the allegations against  the lecturer were  never properly investigated as far as I know.ASUU,the academic union, and the vice-chancellor, who was perceived as not being agile about the investigations, fell out on this issue,if I remember well the eventual outcome.

In almost any setting where  male and female adults   congregate in terms of physical contact sex  is part of the equation and this creates various complication s of possibility  and perspective.  We need to be  particularly careful when interpreting  sexual scenarios.  Women have  been known to frame men for rape after consensual  sex and destroy the poor man's career.

I prefer to get to the bottom of this story rather than assuming  things on face  value.

thanks
toyin




On 23 July 2010 20:41, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,

How many times I call you?  Now that you have seen the video, I must ask: what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before you believe?

Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male students grumbling loudly about wetin  lecturers don take im eye see, and you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can take a position.

Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty The students who turn the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear, unambiguous, and strong terms.

Pius


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From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com>
Subject: [Naijaintellects] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum ] Re: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!

I dont see this video as clarifying what actually took place.The circumstances that took the man there are not clear.Is it blackmail,was he lured there in innocence or he wanted to take advantage  of the girl? Or the girl wanted to take advantage  of him?

Students in Nigerian universitie s also offer themselves  to lecturers apart from lecturers preying on them.

We do not have adequate  evidence to decipher what actually happened.

thanks
toyin



On 23 July 2010 20:19, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com> wrote:
Bimbola's Facebook account is here

but you might need a Facebook account to watch it.
On 23 July 2010 20:18, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com> wrote:
you can watch it on bimbola adelakun's facebook account.
thanks Bimbola.We really appreciate  this provision of information.
toyin


On 23 July 2010 14:10, <akinoakanji@ yahoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunately Guys,
 
The video was removed by YouTube Management due " terms of use violation"
 
We sure would have liked to view this despicable scene.
 
Akin Akanji


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From: Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com>
Subject: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 7:03 PM
--- On Fri, 23/7/10, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 2:29

Folks, be warned. Do not watch this youtube clip near your kids. Read the comments after watching the clip for details... what is Nigeria coming to? Professor in a compromised situation. Students turning it into an opportunity for extorsion and yahoo-yahoo. Crime jam crime! What kind of society is this? Youtube will disable this soon if you don't watch it quickly.

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_ embedded

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I am yet to see the fantastic thing about the naked physical apparatus  in and of itself.What is important is the context of the experience.

The questions I see as relevant to examining the moral issue at play are as follows:

1.What is the relationship between the characters? Why is the man semi dressed?Why did the girl and the men gain power over the person being embarrassed?

2.Who are all these people?Are they what the video tells us they are?

3.What are their various motivations?

4.Why is the man  able to regain his composure to a point even in the midst of that terrible situation?


Most responses assume the guilt of the man being embarrassed.Some assume the guilt of the women and the men making the video.I dont see anything definite enough emerging from this  scenario to justify any of these positions.

The video needs to be carefully investigated for us to to make informed conclusions.

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Simply put, again I agree with the questions posed by Toyin Adepoju. My position is predicated upon what Audee T. Giwa's novel entitled Marks on the run chronicles on the experience and misfortune of one of our dear friends some years gone by in one of our Northern Nigerian Universities. I am yet to disbelief that the communication in moving pictures as presented is not a fraud coming from the believable Benin / Niger Delta axis.
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toyin adepoju

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I am yet to see the fantastic thing about the naked physical apparatus  in and of itself.What is important is the context of the experience.

The questions I see as relevant to examining the moral issue at play are as follows:

1.What is the relationship between the characters? Why is the man semi dressed?Why did the girl and the men gain power over the person being embarrassed?

2.Who are all these people?Are they what the video tells us they are?

3.What are their various motivations?

4.Why is the man  able to regain his composure to a point even in the midst of that terrible situation?


Most responses assume the guilt of the man being embarrassed.Some assume the guilt of the women and the men making the video.I dont see anything definite enough emerging from this  scenario to justify any of these positions.

The video needs to be carefully investigated for us to to make informed conclusions.

Thanks

Toyin

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Some points for your consideration.

1. Did you see evidence that the students tied the Prof's hands and legs and carried him screaming to the girls room? Growing up in your part of Nigeria, have you forgotten that part of the protocols of blame, discipline, and punish would have our parents and elders reprimand us for even being in the compromising neighbourhood of the cookie jar in the first place. Some of ur friends are caught stealing, you run home proclaiming your innocence. Your father's first question: what were you doing in the environment of theft to begin with? Do you get my drift Egbon Rotimi?

2. Listen to the dialogue very very carefully and place everything you hear in the context of campus diction in Nigeria. When Judith says something like you failed me the first time. You should have let me go but you wanted me to do it again so that you can f..ck. The Prof replies: I did not know your number that time. Egbon Rotimi, what do you think they are saying? They are both using what we call let my people go in Nigerian universities. Judith is saying: you should just have passed me thevfurst time as we say in Nigerian English. The professor is saying: I didn't know your student number then.

Think about these two points before you absolve the Prof of any responsibility. For me, all parties are guilty.

Pius

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:32 BST Rotimi Ogunsuyi wrote:

>"The girl and the boys outside clearly state their case." - Prof. Adesanmi
>
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>Good for them. But did they allow the professor to state his case?
>
>As much as I am inclined to believe something happened in the girls' room, I
>never got a chance to hear the other side before the Nigeria lynch mob joined
>forces to steal the professor man's money. Something also tells me this girl and
>her posse will do the same to you or I if they are not prosecuted for the show
>of shame. So, we need to be careful egging them on in their criminality.
>
>Should instructors be extorting considerations from the student? NO. But we
>never were even able to know whether this happened or not - or I missed part of
>the tape? If so, please send the missing proof ith  automatic alacrity. Till you
>and I speak, no constituted authority indicted or even accused the "professor"
>of any crime. All I saw were a bunch of young men and a woman stealing money
>from a middle-aged man.
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May lecturers who take advantage of students be punished.
May lectures also be protected from students who want lecturers to sleep with them for marks.
My lecturers also be protected from students who promise to do them harm or even kill them if they dont allow them to cheat in exams.
The last  two being experiences I have gone through as a lecturer in the University of Benin.
thanks
toyin

On 23 July 2010 08:27, charles Edosomwan <edosom...@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Segun,
Forget the law for a moment and let's be concerned about why the teacher was available for entrapment by these brave young women. Why was he in a situation where he could be entrapped if not that he's a lecher used to feasting off the pleasures of the young bodies over whom he stands in a relation of authority, whom he should be teaching mentoring and protecting?
I pray for more of this, so that others be restrained because this problem is of epidemic proportions.
Left to me, liability for teachers and others in relations of authority to their victims be strict so that other academic geezers whose real prowess lie in sexual harassment of their students and wards be checked or deterred.
CUE

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Looks more like a case of Entrapment. On top, I saw many crimes perpetuated by the Judith girl and her accomplices from Assault/Battery, Kidnapping, Blackmailing, Extortion, Larceny, etc all caught on tape. In other societies, the students will be going to jail. The key to an entrapment is the girl taking a picture with the dude pants down and wrapping her arms around him voluntarily which is an unusual behavior. Very despicable acts.

While one doesn't support the lecturer, it is obvious that he was lured into a lion's den to be devoured and he bought the bait because of his stupidity. If he has a history of molesting young girls, nemesis will catch up with him in many other ways.

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Pius transcription  of the exchange  is important in the effort to understand the motivations of the  characters.That does not imply I think that is what is going on or if it is,if it is all that is going on.

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The reported sad issue or event (debated below) refers to a professor, about whom we have read with our own "korokoro" eyes! Please, permit me to narrate a couple of scenarios that pale the story of the professor!
 
Well, I still have a postcard (mailed to me by an African friend) showing a professor, dressed in dark suit and with his black briefcase lying open on a floor nearby (the open briefcase showed the professor's grade book). Did the professor have a trip-and-fall accident? No! Lying beneath the professor on the same floor was one of his gorgeous female students. In fact, in a cartoon language, the words allegedly coming out of the mouth of the female student were: "Prof., my grade oooo..." The words attributed to the professor were: "Just cooperate. You'll get highest grade in class..."
 
I was shocked to see the postcard and the inscriptions attributed to the professor and his female student, both of whom were on the floor together and suppsoedly "ready for sordid business"! However, my shock was reduced or thinned when I was informed, about two weeks later, that the pastor of our former church in North Carolina was caught "naked" hiding in a closet in the home of his church's Minister of Music. Obviously, the pastor was providing some type of counselling for the couple. Sadly, when he realized that the male Minister of Music had reduced manhood( "Potence", and not performing "conjugal duties" very well at home), he decided (as the couple's pastor) to "help" the wife of his Minister of Music. This was an ordained minister, folks! The episode is one of several sad stories about clergymen being, allegedly, caught between sexual crossfire and romantic wars!
 
In fact, one of America's top civil rights' leaders was, reportedly, guilty of what one of his biographers labelled openly in a published biography as his "sexual athlecticism". Therefore, nothing shocks me any more, not the Nigerian episode of the , obviously, blackmailed professor! Of course, out of shock, some of my good Nigerian friends might still exclaim: "Na waa oo...!"
 
I am even told that in some African countries today, every "big man" has a wife (known as "desk-top computer") and a mistress (also called "my lap-top computer", which the "big man" carries around). If so, is it only a professor, who is guilty of such unfortunate situations? If there is need for cleansing, it should take place in classroooms, offices, ministries and even in churches!
 
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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - [Naijaintellects] | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!

Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,

How many times I call you?  Now that you have seen the video, I must ask: what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before you believe?

Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male students grumbling loudly about wetin  lecturers don take im eye see, and you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can take a position.

Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty The students who turn the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear, unambiguous, and strong terms.

Pius


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"I am yet to see the fantastic thing about the naked physical
apparatus in
and of itself.What is important is the context of the experience.

The questions I see as relevant to examining the moral issue at play
are
as follows:

1.What is the relationship between the characters? Why is the man
semi
dressed?Why did the girl and the men gain power over the person
being embarrassed?

2.Who are all these people?Are they what the video tells us they are?

3.What are their various motivations?

4.Why is the man able to regain his composure to a point even in
the midst of that terrible situation?

Most responses assume the guilt of the man being embarrassed.Some
assume the
guilt of the women and the men making the video.I dont see
anything definite enough emerging from this scenario to justify any
of these positions.

The video needs to be carefully investigated for us to to
make informed conclusions.

Thanks

Toyin"

Dear Forum Members,

These are salient points. The man may have walked into a trap. What
transpired between the lecturer and the female student before the
incident? What is the campus profile of the supposed victim visa vis
the lecturer? Is she for instance, one of those girls who attend
parties in government houses every weekend in place of reading for
theIr exams? Is this lecturer, for instance, one of those "toughies"
who insist on grades being earned irrespective of whose girlfriend you
are? We need to know all these.

Tough lecturers are known to have some times met with this type of
fate. This is however, not to suggest that the lecturer is free from
blame.

I have argued before now that the problems of Nigeria are systemic,
but we prefer to narrow them down to individuals, like our "radicals"
in Lagos baying for the blood of Maurice Iwu as solution to our
electoral woes. One lecturer was caught half dressed in a female
hostel on video and the Internet is agog with condemnations, mostly
from persons who want to justify exilic preference.

How do we build institutional frameworks that would halt further
systemic failures? This to me is more important than this nude video
blame game.

Chidi Anthony Opara

"Away with arts for arts' sake"


On 23 July 2010 22:02, Pius Adesanmi <


On Jul 23, 10:18 pm, toyin adepoju <toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> I am yet to see the fantastic thing about the naked physical apparatus  in
> and of itself.What is important is the context of the experience.
>
> The questions I see as relevant to examining the moral issue at play are
> as follows:
>
> 1.What is the relationship between the characters? Why is the man semi
> dressed?Why did the girl and the men gain power over the person
> being embarrassed?
>
> 2.Who are all these people?Are they what the video tells us they are?
>
> 3.What are their various motivations?
>
> 4.Why is the man  able to regain his composure to a point even in
> the midst of that terrible situation?
>
> Most responses assume the guilt of the man being embarrassed.Some assume the
> guilt of the women and the men making the video.I dont see
> anything definite enough emerging from this  scenario to justify any
> of these positions.
>
> The video needs to be carefully investigated for us to to
> make informed conclusions.
>
> Thanks
>
> Toyin
>
> On 23 July 2010 22:02, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Toyin my brother:
>
> > How do you stage a Professor's naked dick inside the bedroom of a female
> > student in Ekpoma? If I don't stop you in your track quick quick, by this
> > evening you will quietly sneak in Baudrillard and begin to talk of
> > simulacrum. I know you, my brother.
>
> > Well, if you gyrate in that direction as I suspect you inevitable will,
> > remember that we have an explanation for Baudrillard and his simulacrum in
> > Pidgin hermeneutics: we call it korokoro! I wonder why you are disavowing
> > the theory of korokoro vision in this video right before your eyes?
>
> > Moses: I say a big AMEN to your wish that our youth should train those
> > cameras on the randy dicks of our corrupt and worthless rulers in Abuja and
> > the state capitals. Imagine how happy one would have been today if this
> > thing had happened to a Governor, a Federal Rep, a Senator or a Minister!
>
> > Pius
>
> > --- On *Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>* wrote:
>
> > From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>
> > Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: NIDOA | | Re: Professor caught pants down in
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> > To: "Pius Adesanmi" <piusadesa...@yahoo.com>
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> > On 23 July 2010 20:41, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=piusadesa...@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,
>
> > How many times I call you?  Now that you have seen the video, I must ask:
> > what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe
> > dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys
> > outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your
> > pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other
> > evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick
> > actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before
> > you believe?
>
> > Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a
> > female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he
> > had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male
> > students grumbling loudly about wetin  lecturers don take im eye see, and
> > you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can
> > take a position.
>
> > Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty. The students who turn
> > the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are
> > also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop
> > asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear,
> > unambiguous, and strong terms.
>
> > Pius
>
> > --- On *Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com<http://mc/compose?to=toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>
> > >* wrote:
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> > From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com<http://mc/compose?to=toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>
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> > Subject: [Naijaintellects] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum ] Re: NIDOA | Re:
> > Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
> > To: NIgerianWorldForum@ yahoogroups. com<http://mc/compose?to=NIgerianWorldFo...@yahoogroups.com>,
> > "bimbola adelakun" <adunnibabe@yahoo. com<http://mc/compose?to=adunnib...@yahoo.com>
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> > Cc: usaafricadialogue@ googlegroups. com<http://mc/compose?to=usaafric...@googlegroups.com>,
> > naijaintellects@ googlegroups. com<http://mc/compose?to=naijain...@googlegroups.com>,
> > "Pius Adesanmi" <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=piusadesa...@yahoo.com>>,
> > "Edo-nationality" <edo-nationality@ yahoogroups. com<http://mc/compose?to=edo-national...@yahoogroups.com>>,
> > "naijapolitics@ yahoogroups. com<http://mc/compose?to=naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com>"
> > <naijapolitics@ yahoogroups. com<http://mc/compose?to=naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com>>,
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"One lecturer was caught half dressed in a female
hostel on video and the Internet is agog with condemnations, mostly
from persons who want to justify exilic preference" - Chidi Opara


Another characteristic silly talk from Chidi Anthony Opara. I have not once encountered anybody linking this to the exile versus homeland dynamic in all the discussions of this thing in all the internet fora to which you and I belong. You are flat out lying because of the infantile animus you nurse against people studying or teaching abroad. I hope the animus won't rupture your liver one of these days. When last did you see your doctor?

I challenge you, Chidi Anthony Opara: post one - just one - intervention from any forum that has even the faintest suggestion of anybody reading this from the perspective of "exilic preference" - whatever that nonsense means. That slant is a figment of your infertile and unhealthy imagination. And why do soldier ants always invade your pants and make you run naked to the market screaming and scratching you know what whenever you hear that some of us study or teach abroad? Yes, we do. Go and jump into the river Niger if you are not happy about it or go and write some prosaic drivel of a poem about it!

Pius


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Nkolika Ebele

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Dear All,
I have read all the pro and cons in his story, but I wish to assure you of one tjhing, Nigerian styudents however bad can not go afterr you if  you have not given cause to that. A lecturer once signed off of his V boot to  the boyfriend of a student he wanted to exploit sexuially. It was said that they have tried all they can to appease the man old enogh to be the girls father to no avail. They had no choice but to set him up. Relaxing with his unwilling victim, the boyfriend stormed the room wihy some policemen. beat the girl (That was part of the plan) and the man , and was ready to send the man to the streets naked. The man had to secure his freedom by signing a document that he sold his car to the guy and that he has paid him fully. The student may appear calous, but I can assure you some of our colleagues abuse their position as lecturers.Another one gained his freedom from the husband of a married woman he was harrassing by signing away N250,000 or be shot dead. All these in side the hotel room where the pleasure execise was scheduled to take place. If our students have graduated to posting pictrures of such deviants on you tube , it means that they are taking the matter to another level. The ones who consent to such relationship do not take such measures, that is why lecturers should if they must limit themselves to those that accept such gestures. But the best posture is to stay off students. We stand in as parents for them and therefore should set example.
 
Nkolika

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Tony Agbali

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This is very telling. Nothing surprise me too any more! Sexuality is part of human life. It is the exploitation of it, in way that is inappropriate, improper, and intended toward abusing one's power over the other in ways of gaining self-advantages that is damning.
 
That said no one of us, in so far as we are in this "human shirt" (our human condition) can be said to be immuned from making mistakes, though at times mistakes made out of poor judgments do have its own damning consequences- especially if and when caught. I hope that this Professor, in spite of the consequences of his action, and the rest of us can learn from this sad and mocking episode.
 
The poor man could have made a mistake- and maybe it is even his first time! Though that good old saying "Many days for the thief, one day for the owner" would make it hard to believe.
 
Within this forum, sometimes around January 19th, 2009, one Dr. Adegoroye was alleged to have spoken out against the evils of Professors exchanging sex for grades. 
 
He came under vigorous attack here, except for a few voices who insisted that the issue rather than the person should be the focus of debate. I think Professor Rev. Ike Obiora of CIDJAP, Enugu, and our own IBK defended Dr. Adegoroye, but they took heat too when hit by those critics of Dr. Adegoroye.
 
In that case, under such scenario, how can dialogue lead to some interventional change in behavior and policies?
 
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Val Ojo-<Dialogue Series'" <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 12:22 AM
 
Nigeria is a weird country, and Nigerians are weird lot!   Dr. Goke Adegoroye, who was a colleague and a close personal acquaintance (to describe him as ‘friend’ would be stretching it some, but we moved in the same circles) at the Obafemi Awolowo Uinversity, Ile-Ife, in the 80’s was possibly the worst placed person to have delivered the convocation speech he was reported to have delivered at the Obafemi Awolwo University last year, and about which   “The source said that both the President and those at the Presidency were embarrassed by the speech delivered at the convocation ceremony where the government lambasted lecturers accusing them of selling marks and harassing female students for sex.”   For one thing, Dr. Goke Adegoroye was an Almunus of Obafemi Awolowo University, where he later returned to teach in the Faculty of Agrculture, from where he then left to join the ‘public servcie’, should not be the one to so drag down a university which produced him, his own Alma Mater.   Dr. Adegoroye lambasting his former colleagues and fellow “lecturers, accusing them of selling marks and harassing female students for sex” is worse than the case of the pot calling the kettle black –
 
From: Obiora IKE <obior...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:03:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Jan 19 2009 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - RE: POWER-FULL Education Perm Sec Under Fire
 
Dear Friends,
 
General statements aside, did Dr. Goke Adegoroye lie with his speech and statement that "some lecturers"  in our institutions of higher education "sell marks and harass female students for sex?  Let,s face the issues of whether it happens and not the problem of who said it.
 
The saintly and much acclaimed Catholic Nun, Mother Theresa of Calcutta who spent her entire life working for the poor was once interviewd by Journalists on what was wrong with the world as things continue to get worse everywhere. Her response which is an admission of truth bears repetition here... The nun looked on the journalists and in a soft voice said:
"What is wrong with the world is You and Me".
 
Time has come for all of us to accept the truth and reality of constant unethical behaviour at all levels of our society and to call them by name.  There is no need calling a Spade a Hoe. When the truth is spoken, no matter how hard and by who, let it be that rational humans admit the truth that is spoken and repent with change.  Asking why someone should mention that they happen and who has a right to mention the facts, is petitio principi  in logic (begging the question).
 
Rev Prof Obiora Ike
Director
Catholic Insitute for Development Justce and peace
CIDJAP, Enugu
 
In any case, what lessons do we all learn from it.
 

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From: Obododimma Oha <obodo...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:48:25 +0100
Local: Mon, Jan 19 2009 12:48 pm
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: POWER-FULL Education Perm Sec Under Fire
 
Rev. Prof. Ike,
Declaring that Nigerian lecturers sell marks and harass female students is
itself a very sick statement: it is, as you well know, a case of faulty
generalization. Do all Nigerian lecturers sell marks and harass female
students? Don't you think that such a claim amounts to being insensitive to
facework and damaging the image of (all) lecturers in Nigeria? Is that kind
of face-threatening assertion a way not to call a spade a hoe (or spoon, if
you like)? OK, don't we know that some reverend gentlemen fornicate; can
one, after studying logic, assert that Nigerian reverend gentlemen
(including you) fornicate and we clap hands for him, that he or she
possesses sound reasoning?
I guess you have missed the point, Prof. Ike. We should, as it is the case
in other countries, begin to interrogate and indeed express our objections
to reckless statements that public figures and even heads of government
sometimes make in Nigeria. Anyone who wants to address publics must be ready
to demonstrate in his or her discourse that he or she is civilized!
--- Obododimma Oha.
 

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Tony Agbali

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"Go and jump into the river Niger if you are not happy about it or go and write some prosaic drivel of a poem about it!-" Pius
 
Chidi would cry his eyes out today in another poetic animus against the "exiles"- whatever that means. Chidi's animus against the exiles has existed since his "creatio ex nihilo" that there is no interventional relief that would change him, except he may need to drink from the well of Ideato to reincarnate the Okigbo genius but having to try as hard as hell. Well, with Ikhide, quoting Chidi these days, and someone burnishing him alongside Chris Okigbo- his deified hubris has no end- except to beware of .
 
Now, he meets his match so I am waiting for that defecated next ballistic poem, always chewing up the articles- a, the- but yet spitting forth Turanci with defiled brimstone and dredging the Chidi's poetic freelance!
 
The bombastic blitzkrieg has been detonated, well was there any napalm in it to stop Chidi...cockfight eh! The market square is wide open....Chidi the cat-with-more-than-nine poetic lives, I am waiting eyimba enyi.....!!! I am clapping, cheerleading....wow...oh! Come on, Chidi, yes you can....Pius the Eagle will land oh! Come, Chidi, go on, man, show machoism mano a mano...!!!!



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Oluwatoyin Ade-Odutola

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One question and I promise not to render a word on this subject for many reasons
(1) Why does it APPEAR to me that Professor Pius Adesanmi is loudest on this issue? Has the Nigerian Professor and those elsewhere finally played into his hands? I sense 'rejoicing' in his comments (or is this Professor Ndibe's constant call call for outrage?). Pius has more than shown his indignation in my opinion, but I cannot ask that he tone it down. Please show more, I respect your freedom.
I give it to him that reporting the negative about lives of others make better copies than celebration. I also agree that Nigeria as a country is a big disappointment that affects our normality. The result of a careful content analysis of the works of public commentators is long overdue. How much of our wrongs do they reflect back to us without balancing with ideas and news to cheer?
Let not Nigeria "spoil our youth"

Lest I forget, thank you Rev Father Tony...you have played out the words in Chapter 29 of "Toyin Falola: The Man, the mask, the muse" Is this what is referred to as praxis?
Kole

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I was shocked to see the postcard and the inscriptions attributed to the professor and his female student, both of whom were on the floor together and suppsoedly "ready for sordid business"! However, my shock was reduced or thinned when I was informed, about two weeks later, that the pastor of our former church in North Carolina was caught "naked" hiding in a closet in the home of his church's Minister of Music. Obviously, the pastor was providing some type of counseling for the couple. Sadly, when he realized that the male Minister of Music had reduced manhood( "Potence", and not performing "conjugal duties" very well at home), he decided (as the couple's pastor) to "help" the wife of his Minister of Music. This was an ordained minister, folks! The episode is one of several sad stories about clergymen being, allegedly, caught between sexual crossfire and romantic wars!

Pius Adesanmi

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I wonder why it APPEARS to me that Professor Kole Ade-Odutola is angry that I forgot to check with him on how many interventions in a particular thread he approves for me so I don't exceed my quota?&nbsp; Iwofa l'enu- have I stopped him from sending his mouth on errands of support for the Prof to his heart's content? From the warrens of Texas,&nbsp; have I stopped him from sallying forth on a signature campaign of solidarity for the Prof? Oh, I forget, he won't want to play into my ever-ready sadistic hands!&nbsp; After all, in Odutolaville, expressing one's opinion strongly about national issues is a game in which people play into people's hands. Some of us don't think that this is game. I hope His Eminence Odutola can live that?<br><br>As for the puerile the submission that this is about celebrating the negatives in other people's lives, I won't dignify that with a response.<br><br>Pius<br><br><br><br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 24/7/10, Oluwatoyin Ade-Odutola
<i>&lt;ko...@yahoo.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Oluwatoyin Ade-Odutola &lt;ko...@yahoo.com&gt;<br>Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!<br>To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com<br>Cc: atta...@yahoo.com, piusad...@yahoo.com<br>Date: Saturday, 24 July, 2010, 23:12<br><br><div id="yiv167031018"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top">One question and I promise not to render a word on this subject for many reasons<br>(1) Why does it APPEAR to me that Professor Pius Adesanmi is loudest on this issue? Has the Nigerian Professor and those elsewhere finally played into his hands? I sense 'rejoicing' in his comments (or is this Professor Ndibe's constant call call for outrage?). Pius has more than shown his
indignation in my opinion, but I cannot ask that he tone it down. Please show more, I respect your freedom.<br>I give it to him that reporting the negative about lives of others make better copies than celebration. I also agree that Nigeria as a country is a big disappointment that affects our normality. The result of a careful content analysis of the works of public commentators is long overdue. How much of our wrongs do they reflect back to us without balancing with ideas and news to cheer?
<br>Let not Nigeria "spoil our youth"<br><br>Lest I forget, thank you Rev Father Tony...you have played out the words in Chapter 29 of "Toyin Falola: The Man, the mask, the muse" Is this what is referred to as praxis? <br>Kole<br><br>--- On <b>Sat, 7/24/10, Tony Agbali <i>&lt;&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Tony Agbali &lt;atta...@yahoo.com&gt;<br>Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - [Naijaintellects] | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!<br>To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com<br>Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 5:40 PM<br><br><div id="yiv167031018yiv1330964468"><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font: inherit;" valign="top"><div>This is very telling. Nothing surprise me too any more! Sexuality is part of human life. It is the exploitation of it, in way that is
inappropriate,
improper, and intended toward abusing one's power over the other in ways of gaining self-advantages that is damning. </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>That said no one of us, in so far as we are in this "human shirt" (our human condition) can be said to be immuned from making mistakes, though at times mistakes made out of poor judgments do have its own damning consequences- especially if and when caught. I hope that this Professor, in spite of the consequences of his action, and the rest of us can learn from this sad and mocking episode.</div>
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<div>The poor man could have made a mistake- and maybe it is even his first time! Though that good old saying "Many days for the thief, one day for the owner" would make it hard to believe.</div>
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<div>Within this forum, sometimes around January 19th, 2009, one Dr. Adegoroye was alleged to have spoken out against the evils of Professors exchanging sex for grades.&nbsp; </div>
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<div>He came under vigorous attack here, except for a few voices who insisted that the issue rather than the person should be the focus of debate. I think Professor Rev. Ike Obiora of CIDJAP, Enugu, and our own IBK defended Dr. Adegoroye, but they took heat too when hit by those critics of Dr. Adegoroye.</div>
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<div>In that case, under such scenario, how can dialogue lead to some interventional change in behavior and policies?</div>
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<div class="yiv167031018yiv1330964468fontsize2 " style="display: none; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);">Nigeria is a weird country, and Nigerians are weird lot! &nbsp; Dr. Goke Adegoroye, who was a colleague and a close personal acquaintance (to describe him as ‘friend’ would be stretching it some, but we moved in the same circles) at the Obafemi Awolowo Uinversity, Ile-Ife, in the 80’s was possibly the worst placed person to have delivered the convocation speech he was reported to have delivered at the Obafemi Awolwo University last year, and about which &nbsp; “The source said that both the President and those at the Presidency were embarrassed by the speech delivered at the convocation ceremony where the government lambasted lecturers accusing them of selling marks and harassing female students for sex.” &nbsp; For one thing, Dr. Goke Adegoroye was an Almunus of Obafemi Awolowo University, where he later returned to teach in the Faculty of

Agrculture, from
where he then left to join
the ‘public servcie’, should not be the one to so drag down a university which produced him, his own Alma Mater. &nbsp; Dr. Adegoroye lambasting his former colleagues and fellow “lecturers, accusing them of selling marks and harassing female students for sex” is worse than the case of the pot calling the kettle black – </div><br></td></tr></tbody></table></td>
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<div style="padding-left: 20px;">From: <b>Obiora IKE &lt;obior<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://groups.google.com/groups/unlock?_done=/group/usaafricadialogue/browse_thread/thread/9475d98be3d579f6/fded23600ad3772b%3Flnk%3Dgst%26q%3Dike%2Bobiora&amp;msg=fded23600ad3772b">...</a>@yahoo.com&gt;</b></div>
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<div><a rel="nofollow" name="msg_fded23600ad3772b"></a>Dear Friends, <br>&nbsp; <br>General statements aside, did Dr. Goke Adegoroye lie with his speech and statement that "some lecturers"&nbsp; in our institutions of higher education "sell marks and harass female students for sex?&nbsp; Let,s face the issues of whether it happens and not the problem of who said it. <br>&nbsp; <br>The saintly and much acclaimed Catholic Nun, Mother Theresa of Calcutta who spent her entire life working for the poor was once interviewd by Journalists on what was wrong with the world as things continue to get worse everywhere. Her response which is an admission of truth bears repetition here... The nun looked on the journalists and in a soft voice said: <br>"What is wrong with the world is You and Me". <br>&nbsp; <br>Time has come for all of us to accept the truth and reality of constant unethical behaviour at all levels of our society and to call them by name.&nbsp; There
is no need
calling a Spade a Hoe.&nbsp;When the truth is spoken, no&nbsp;matter how hard and by who, let it be that rational humans admit the truth that is spoken and&nbsp;repent&nbsp;with change.&nbsp; Asking why someone should mention that they happen and who has a right to mention the facts, is petitio principi&nbsp;&nbsp;in logic (begging the question). <br>&nbsp; <br>Rev Prof&nbsp;Obiora Ike <br>Director <br>Catholic Insitute for Development Justce and peace <br>CIDJAP, Enugu <br>&nbsp; </div></div></div>
<div>In any case, what lessons do we all learn from it.</div>
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<div><a rel="nofollow" name="msg_92dc8c489365908c"></a>Rev. Prof. Ike, <br>Declaring that Nigerian lecturers sell marks and harass female students is <br>itself a very sick statement: it is, as you well know, a case of faulty <br>generalization. Do all Nigerian lecturers sell marks and harass female <br>students? Don't you think that such a claim amounts to being insensitive to <br>facework and damaging the image of (all) lecturers in Nigeria? Is that kind <br>of face-threatening assertion a way not to call a spade a hoe (or spoon, if <br>you like)? OK, don't we know that some reverend gentlemen fornicate; can <br>one, after studying logic, assert that Nigerian reverend gentlemen <br>(including you) fornicate and we clap hands for him, that he or she <br>possesses sound reasoning? <br>I guess you have missed the point, Prof. Ike. We should, as it is the case <br>in other countries, begin to interrogate and indeed express our objections <br>to reckless
statements that
public figures and even heads of government <br>sometimes make in Nigeria. Anyone who wants to address publics must be ready <br>to demonstrate in his or her discourse that he or she is civilized! <br>
<div>--- Obododimma Oha. <br>
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<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);"><br>From: Assensoh, Akwasi B. &lt;aass...@indiana.edu&gt;<br>Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - [Naijaintellects] | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!<br>To: "naijain...@googlegroups.com" &lt;naijain...@googlegroups.com&gt;, "it...@mail.ccs-africa.co.za" &lt;it...@mail.ccs-africa.co.za&gt;<br>Cc: "usaafric...@googlegroups.com" &lt;usaafric...@googlegroups.com&gt;, "Edo-nationality" &lt;edo-nat...@yahoogroups.com&gt;, "naijap...@yahoogroups.com" &lt;naijap...@yahoogroups.com&gt;, "WoleSoyinkaSociety" &lt;WoleSoyin...@yahoogroups.com&gt;, "naijao...@yahoogroups.com" &lt;naijao...@yahoogroups.com&gt;, "Nidoa" &lt;ni...@yahoogroups.com&gt;, "nigerianw...@yahoogroups.com" &lt;nigerianw...@yahoogroups.com&gt;, "szal...@bethel.edu"
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<div>The reported sad issue or event (debated below) refers to a professor, about whom we have read with our own "<em>korokoro</em>" eyes! Please, permit me to narrate a couple of scenarios that pale the story of the professor!</div>
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<div>Well, I still have a postcard (mailed to me by an African friend) showing a professor, dressed in&nbsp;dark suit and with his black briefcase lying open on a floor nearby (the open briefcase showed the professor's grade book). Did the professor have a trip-and-fall accident? No! Lying beneath the professor on the same&nbsp;floor was one of his gorgeous female students.&nbsp;In fact,&nbsp;in a cartoon language, the words allegedly coming out of the mouth of the female student were: "Prof., my grade oooo..." The words attributed to the professor were: "Just cooperate. You'll get&nbsp;highest grade in class..."</div>
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<div>I was shocked to see the postcard and the inscriptions attributed to the professor and&nbsp;his female student, both of whom were on the floor together and suppsoedly "ready for sordid business"! However, my shock was reduced or thinned when I was informed, about two weeks later,&nbsp;that&nbsp;the pastor of our former church&nbsp;in North Carolina&nbsp;was caught "naked" hiding in a closet in the home of his church's&nbsp;Minister of Music. Obviously,&nbsp;the pastor&nbsp;was providing some type of counseling for the couple. Sadly, when he realized that the male Minister of Music&nbsp;had&nbsp;reduced manhood( "Potence", and not performing "conjugal duties" very well&nbsp;at home), he decided (as&nbsp;the couple's&nbsp;pastor) to&nbsp;"help" the&nbsp;wife of his Minister of Music. This was an ordained minister,&nbsp;folks! The episode&nbsp;is one of several sad stories&nbsp;about clergymen being, allegedly,&nbsp;caught between sexual crossfire and
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<div>In fact, one of America's top civil rights' leaders was, reportedly, guilty of what one of his biographers labelled openly in a published&nbsp;biography&nbsp;as his "sexual athlecticism". Therefore, nothing shocks me any more, not the Nigerian episode of the , obviously, blackmailed professor! Of course, out of shock, some of my&nbsp;good Nigerian friends&nbsp;might still&nbsp;exclaim: "<em>Na waa oo</em>...!" </div>
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<div>I am even told that in some African countries today, every "big man"&nbsp;has a wife (known as "desk-top computer") and a mistress (also called "my lap-top computer", which the "big man" carries around). If so, is it only a professor, who is guilty of such unfortunate situations? If there is need for cleansing, it should take place in classroooms, offices, ministries and even in churches!</div>
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<div>A.B.&nbsp;Assensoh, Bloomington, Indiana.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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<td valign="top">Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,<br><br>How many times I call you?&nbsp; Now that you have seen the video, I must ask: what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before you believe? <br><br>Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male students grumbling loudly about wetin&nbsp; lecturers don take im eye see, and you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can
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a position. <br><br>Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty The students who turn the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear, unambiguous, and strong terms.<br><br>Pius<br><br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <i>&lt;toyin....@googlemail.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);"><br>From: toyin adepoju &lt;toyin....@googlemail.com&gt;<br>Subject: [Naijaintellects] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!<br>To: NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com, "bimbola adelakun" &lt;adunn...@yahoo.com&gt;<br>Cc: usaafric...@googlegroups.com, naijain...@googlegroups.com, "Pius Adesanmi" &lt;&gt;, "Edo-nationality" &lt;edo-nat...@yahoogroups.com&gt;, "naijap...@yahoogroups.com" &lt;naijap...@yahoogroups.com&gt;, "WoleSoyinkaSociety" &lt;WoleSoyin...@yahoogroups.com&gt;, "naijao...@yahoogroups.com" &lt;naijaobserver@yahoogroupscom&gt;, "Nidoa" &lt;ni...@yahoogroups.com&gt;<br>Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 20:24<br><br>
<div id="yiv167031018yiv1330964468yiv1513774532"><br>I dont see&nbsp;this&nbsp;video as clarifying what actually took place.The circumstances that took the man there are not clear.Is it blackmail,was he lured there in&nbsp;innocence&nbsp;or he wanted to take&nbsp;advantage&nbsp;of the girl? Or the girl wanted to take&nbsp;advantage&nbsp;of him?
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<div>Students in Nigerian&nbsp;universities&nbsp;also offer&nbsp;themselves&nbsp;to lecturers apart from lecturers preying on them.</div>
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<div>We do not have&nbsp;adequate&nbsp;evidence&nbsp;to decipher what actually happened.</div>
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<div>thanks</div>
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<div class="yiv167031018yiv1330964468yiv1513774532gmail_quote">On 23 July 2010 20:19, toyin adepoju <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">toyin....@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div>but you might need a Facebook account to watch it.</div>
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<div class="yiv167031018yiv1330964468yiv1513774532gmail_quote">thanks</div>
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<div class="yiv167031018yiv1330964468yiv1513774532gmail_quote">On 23 July 2010 20:18, toyin adepoju <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">toyin....@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div>thanks Bimbola.We really&nbsp;appreciate&nbsp;this provision of information.</div>
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<div>Unfortunately Guys,</div>
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<div>The video was removed by YouTube Management due " terms of use violation"</div>
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<div>We sure would have liked to view this despicable scene.</div>
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<div>Akin Akanji
<div><br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 7/22/10, Pius Adesanmi <i>&lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">piusad...@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br></div></div>
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<div><br>From: Pius Adesanmi &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">piusad...@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br></div>Subject: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
<div><br>To: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">usaafric...@googlegroups.com</a>, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">naijain...@googlegroups.com</a><br>Cc: "Edo-nationality" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">edo-nat...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;, "<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">naijap...@yahoogroups.com</a>" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">naijap...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;, "nigerianworldforum" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;, "WoleSoyinkaSociety" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">WoleSoyin...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;, "<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">naijao...@yahoogroups.com</a>" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">naijao...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;, "nai" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">naijain...@googlegroups.com</a>&gt;, "Nidoa" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.exchange.iu.edu/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx">ni...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;<br></div>Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 7:03 PM
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<div>Here is the link again:<br><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&amp;feature=player_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&amp;feature=player_embedded</a><br><br>--- On Fri, 23/7/10, Pius Adesanmi &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=piusadesanmi%40yahoo.com">piusad...@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>From: Pius Adesanmi &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=piusadesanmi%40yahoo.com">piusad...@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!<br>To: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=usaafricadialogue%40googlegroups.com">usaafric...@googlegroups.com</a>, <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijaintellects%40googlegroups.com">naijain...@googlegroups.com</a><br>Cc: "Edo-nationality" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=edo-nationality%40yahoogroups.com">edo-nat...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;, "<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijapolitics%40yahoogroups.com">naijap...@yahoogroups.com</a>" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijapolitics%40yahoogroups.com">naijap...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;, "nigerianworldforum" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NIgerianWorldForum%40yahoogroups.com">NIgerianW...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;, "WoleSoyinkaSociety" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WoleSoyinkaSociety%40yahoogroups.com">WoleSoyin...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;, "<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120.mailyahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijaobserver%40yahoogroups.com">naijao...@yahoogroups.com</a>" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijaobserver%40yahoogroups.com">naijao...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;, "nai" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijaintellects%40googlegroups.com">naijain...@googlegroups.com</a>&gt;, "Nidoa" &lt;<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nidoa%40yahoogroups.com">ni...@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;<br>Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 2:29<br><br>Folks, be warned. Do not watch this youtube clip near your kids. Read the comments after watching the clip for details... what is Nigeria coming


to? Professor in a compromised situation. Students turning it into an opportunity for extorsion and yahoo-yahoo. Crime jam crime! What kind of society is

this? Youtube will disable this soon if you don't watch it quickly.<br><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&amp;feature=player_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&amp;feature=player_embedded</a><br><br>Pius<br><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table><br>
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Oluwatoyin Ade-Odutola

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Jul 24, 2010, 7:33:03 PM7/24/10
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Some how I expected this response...aburo ki i se ja ooo
My observation no be fight. Just an observation abi?
If it is not so, just say so and we shall continue the Faaji...
Are you upset? Up in arms? No need, you know my Light weight boxing skills are NOTHING compared to your World heavy weight title...Gentle bob ni mi emi ki i se fighter
kenikeni ma pe mi lo sibija......

Over & out

Kole

toyin adepoju

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"I have read all the pro and cons in his story, but I wish to assure you of one thing, Nigerian students however bad can not go afterr you if  you have not given cause to that".-Nkolika

Sorry,not true.

Nigerian lecturers also have their own stories to match and surpass those you told,including stories of assassination and threats of murder from students who see some lecturers as being too diligent with their jobs.

thanks
toyin

Anunoby, Ogugua

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Why all the hue and cry? Professor student liaison is not as unusual in Nigeria’s universities as the commentaries on this subject suggests. Anyone who is inside the system or has been knows that this is the case. Morality is not as high a virtue in Nigeria or indeed anywhere else as it should be. Illicit liaison of bosses and their female subordinates in work places is also common. Ditto in the NYSC. What is also true is that sometimes, females including students help to create enabling conditions for these transgressions by simply not working as hard and well as they should while expecting unjustified outcomes. This is not to say that professors and male superiors should take the bait. There is an unwholesome culture of fringe benefits in Nigeria. Some are lawful, others are not. Some are moral/ethical, others are not. There is also what some call "man no be wood" or "bush meat" allowance. All of this is wrong is wrong and exploitative of especially women of course but the practice exists in Nigeria unfortunately. Having said this, it needs to be added that that professors and male superiors are the "adults" in these relationships and situations. They should know and should rightly be expected to do the right thing. In Nigeria as elsewhere, people are sometimes out of luck. The professor in this case was.
Was a crime committed here? Is this case no more than a moral or ethical outrage? Is the street "justice" visited on this professor lawful? Are the professor's prosecutors also co-conspirators and criminals? Should the police not be interested in this case? Does the professor's unbridled lust warrant or justify the extortion that was captured on tape? Is the professor guilty of any crime under Nigerian law? Is the professor in violation of any terms and conditions of his contract with his employer? Could it be argued that the female student in this case shares any responsibility for this transaction? Is this a teachable experience?

oa


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Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:56 PM
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: NIDOA | | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!

Dear All,
I have read all the pro and cons in his story, but I wish to assure you of one tjhing, Nigerian styudents however bad can not go afterr you if you have not given cause to that. A lecturer once signed off of his V boot to the boyfriend of a student he wanted to exploit sexuially. It was said that they have tried all they can to appease the man old enogh to be the girls father to no avail. They had no choice but to set him up. Relaxing with his unwilling victim, the boyfriend stormed the room wihy some policemen. beat the girl (That was part of the plan) and the man , and was ready to send the man to the streets naked. The man had to secure his freedom by signing a document that he sold his car to the guy and that he has paid him fully. The student may appear calous, but I can assure you some of our colleagues abuse their position as lecturers.Another one gained his freedom from the husband of a married woman he was harrassing by signing away N250,000 or be shot dead. All these in side the hotel room where the pleasure execise was scheduled to take place. If our students have graduated to posting pictrures of such deviants on you tube , it means that they are taking the matter to another level. The ones who consent to such relationship do not take such measures, that is why lecturers should if they must limit themselves to those that accept such gestures. But the best posture is to stay off students. We stand in as parents for them and therefore should set example.

Nkolika

--- On Sat, 7/24/10, Pius Adesanmi <piusad...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Pius Adesanmi <piusad...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: NIDOA | | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 11:10 AM

"One lecturer was caught half dressed in a female
hostel on video and the Internet is agog with condemnations, mostly
from persons who want to justify exilic preference" - Chidi Opara


Another characteristic silly talk from Chidi Anthony Opara. I have not once encountered anybody linking this to the exile versus homeland dynamic in all the discussions of this thing in all the internet fora to which you and I belong. You are flat out lying because of the infantile animus you nurse against people studying or teaching abroad. I hope the animus won't rupture your liver one of these days. When last did you see your doctor?

I challenge you, Chidi Anthony Opara: post one - just one - intervention from any forum that has even the faintest suggestion of anybody reading this from the perspective of "exilic preference" - whatever that nonsense means. That slant is a figment of your infertile and unhealthy imagination. And why do soldier ants always invade your pants and make you run naked to the market screaming and scratching you know what whenever you hear that some of us study or teach abroad? Yes, we do. Go and jump into the river Niger if you are not happy about it or go and write some prosaic drivel of a poem about it!

Pius


--- On Sat, 24/7/10, Chidi Anthony Opara <chidi...@gmail.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chidi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> On Jul 23, 10:18 pm, toyin adepoju <toyin.adep...@googlemail.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>>

> > On 23 July 2010 22:02, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesa...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=piusadesa...@yahoo.com>>

> > > --- On *Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <toyin.adep...@googlemail.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>>*
> wrote:


> >
> > > From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adep...@googlemail.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>>
> > > Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: NIDOA | | Re:
> Professor caught pants down in
> > > female student's room... all on youtube!

> > > To: "Pius Adesanmi" <piusadesa...@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=piusadesa...@yahoo.com>>
> > > Cc: NIgerianWorldFo...@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NIgerianWorldFo...@yahoogroups.com>,
> naijain...@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijain...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > usaafric...@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=usaafric...@googlegroups.com>,
> "Edo-nationality" <
> > > edo-national...@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=edo-national...@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com>"
> <
> > > naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "WoleSoyinkaSociety" <
> > > WoleSoyinkaSoci...@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WoleSoyinkaSoci...@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "naijaobser...@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijaobser...@yahoogroups.com>"
> <
> > > naijaobser...@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijaobser...@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "Nidoa" <ni...@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1200.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ni...@yahoogroups.com>>

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Oluwatoyin Ade-Odutola

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Jul 25, 2010, 6:02:19 PM7/25/10
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Nigeria, in its own words
In July 2009, Mark Weston, Co-Director of the Task Force secretariat, traveled around
Nigeria to seek the opinions of the country’s current and future leaders on how they think
their nation should tackle its demographic challenges. Mark visited Lagos, Kano and Abuja,
and in over 50 interviews he met politicians, civil society activists, writers, artists,
businesspeople, teachers, academics and students. He reports on his trip here.
The study
Mark Weston conducted 56 interviews lasting approximately 40 minutes. A standard set of
four questions was asked to each respondent, with additional questions tailored to the
respondent’s field of expertise. By consulting with a range of influential and engaged
Nigerians, the aim of the study was to identify some of the country’s key problems and to
generate some hypotheses for moving forward. The standard questions were:
1. What do you see as the key challenges facing Nigeria today?
2. What are the specific challenges facing young people?
3. What policies are in place to meet the challenges facing young people?
4. What policies would be helpful but are not yet in place?
Interviewees were selected by the Next Generation Task Force secretariat and the British
Council in Nigeria, based on the key themes identified in the literature review conducted for
the project, and came from a range of backgrounds. They included state ministers,
newspaper journalists, writers, playwrights, environmental lawyers and activists, human
rights activists, artists, university students, primary, secondary and Islamiyya school
teachers and pupils, university lecturers and managers, a think tank director,
businesspeople, Muslim and Christian religious leaders, gender activists, international
donors, and Nigerian education and health policy-makers. Interviewees included men and
women of various ages, although most were aged between 20 and 50 years. The British
Council arranged the meetings.
The report of Mark’s visit follows.

Ayo Obe

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Let us also remember that students who can't pass exams except by entrapping their lecturers or threatening them with violence don't get inside the universities by magic.  They not only 'pass' JAMB, but they also pass the UME that are conducted by the universities themselves.  These exams are not set and/or marked by ghosts.

Is the ASUU giving the necessary support to lecturers who are refusing to play along?  Can it?

Ayo

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Chidi Anthony Opara

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"Let us also remember that students who can't pass exams except by
entrapping
their lecturers or threatening them with violence don't get inside
the
universities by magic. They not only 'pass' JAMB, but they also pass
the
UME that are conducted by the universities themselves. These exams
are not
set and/or marked by ghosts.

Is the ASUU giving the necessary support to lecturers who are refusing
to
play along? Can it?

Ayo"

All these in my opinion come down to system failure, so Iet me repeat
my earlier question; how do we build institutional frameworks to halt
further system failure and to reverse the present?

Chidi Anthony Opara

“Perfection? No please! Let me remain human”.




On Jul 26, 12:25 am, Ayo Obe <ayo.m.o....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let us also remember that students who can't pass exams except by entrapping
> their lecturers or threatening them with violence don't get inside the
> universities by magic.  They not only 'pass' JAMB, but they also pass the
> UME that are conducted by the universities themselves.  These exams are not
> set and/or marked by ghosts.
>
> Is the ASUU giving the necessary support to lecturers who are refusing to
> play along?  Can it?
>
> Ayo
>
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:05 AM, toyin adepoju <toyin.adep...@googlemail.com
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > May lecturers who take advantage of students be punished.
> > May lectures also be protected from students who want lecturers to sleep
> > with them for marks.
> > My lecturers also be protected from students who promise to do them harm or
> > even kill them if they dont allow them to cheat in exams.
> > The last  two being experiences I have gone through as a lecturer in the
> > University of Benin.
> > thanks
> > toyin
>
> > On 23 July 2010 08:27, charles Edosomwan <edosomwan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Segun,
> >> Forget the law for a moment and let's be concerned about why the teacher
> >> was available for entrapment by these brave young women. Why was he in a
> >> situation where he could be entrapped if not that he's a lecher used to
> >> feasting off the pleasures of the young bodies over whom he stands in a
> >> relation of authority, whom he should be teaching mentoring and protecting?
> >> I pray for more of this, so that others be restrained because this problem
> >> is of epidemic proportions.
> >> Left to me, liability for teachers and others in relations of authority to
> >> their victims be strict so that other academic geezers whose real prowess
> >> lie in sexual harassment of their students and wards be checked or deterred.
> >> CUE
>
> >> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From: * "Segun T. Dawodu" <stdaw...@gmail.com>
> >> *Sender: * edo-c...@yahoogroups.com
> >> *Date: *Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:58:02 -0400
> >> *To: *naijain...@googlegroups.com<naijain...@googlegroups.com>
> >> *ReplyTo: * edo-c...@yahoogroups.com
> >> *Cc: *usaafric...@googlegroups.com<
> >> usaafric...@googlegroups.com>; naijain...@googlegroups.com<
> >> naijain...@googlegroups.com>; Edo-nationality<
> >> edo-national...@yahoogroups.com>; naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com<
> >> naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com>; nigerianworldforum<
> >> NIgerianWorldFo...@yahoogroups.com>; WoleSoyinkaSociety<
> >> WoleSoyinkaSoci...@yahoogroups.com>; naijaobser...@yahoogroups.com<
> >> naijaobser...@yahoogroups.com>; nai<naijain...@googlegroups.com>;
> >> Nidoa<ni...@yahoogroups.com>
> >> *Subject: *Edo-ciao Re: [Naijaintellects] Re: Professor caught pants down
> >> in female student's room... all on youtube!
>
> >> Looks more like a case of Entrapment. On top, I saw many crimes
> >> perpetuated by the Judith girl and her accomplices from Assault/Battery,
> >> Kidnapping, Blackmailing, Extortion, Larceny, etc all caught on tape. In
> >> other societies, the students will be going to jail. The key to an
> >> entrapment is the girl taking a picture with the dude pants down and
> >> wrapping her arms around him voluntarily which is an unusual behavior. Very
> >> despicable acts.
>
> >> While one doesn't support the lecturer, it is obvious that he was lured
> >> into a lion's den to be devoured and he bought the bait because of his
> >> stupidity. If he has a history of molesting young girls, nemesis will catch
> >> up with him in many other ways.
>
> >> Sent from my iPad
>
> >> On Jul 22, 2010, at 10:03 PM, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesa...@yahoo.com<piusadesanmi%40yahoo.com>>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > Here is the link again:
>
> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_embedded
>
> >> > --- On Fri, 23/7/10, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesa...@yahoo.com<piusadesanmi%40yahoo.com>>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > From: Pius Adesanmi <piusadesa...@yahoo.com <piusadesanmi%40yahoo.com>>
> >> > Subject: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on
> >> youtube!
> >> > To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com<usaafricadialogue%40googlegroups.com>,
> >> naijain...@googlegroups.com <naijaintellects%40googlegroups.com>
> >> > Cc: "Edo-nationality" <edo-national...@yahoogroups.com<edo-nationality%40yahoogroups.com>>,
> >> "naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com <naijapolitics%40yahoogroups.com>" <
> >> naijapolit...@yahoogroups.com <naijapolitics%40yahoogroups.com>>,
> >> "nigerianworldforum" <NIgerianWorldFo...@yahoogroups.com<NIgerianWorldForum%40yahoogroups.com>>,
> >> "WoleSoyinkaSociety" <WoleSoyinkaSoci...@yahoogroups.com<WoleSoyinkaSociety%40yahoogroups.com>>,
> >> "naijaobser...@yahoogroups.com <naijaobserver%40yahoogroups.com>" <
> >> naijaobser...@yahoogroups.com <naijaobserver%40yahoogroups.com>>, "nai" <
> >> naijain...@googlegroups.com <naijaintellects%40googlegroups.com>>,
> >> "Nidoa" <ni...@yahoogroups.com <nidoa%40yahoogroups.com>>
> >> > Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 2:29
>
> >> > Folks, be warned. Do not watch this youtube clip near your kids. Read
> >> the comments after watching the clip for details... what is Nigeria coming
> >> to? Professor in a compromised situation. Students turning it into an
> >> opportunity for extorsion and yahoo-yahoo. Crime jam crime! What kind of
> >> society is this? Youtube will disable this soon if you don't watch it
> >> quickly.
>
> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_embedded
>
> >> > Pius
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