The Great Pan-Afrikanist Hugo Chavez Called Obama A "Poor Ignoramus"
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Abdul Bangura
Mar 10, 2013, 2:24:08 PM3/10/13
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The Telegraph
Hugo Chavez calls Barack Obama 'a poor ignoramus'
The Venezuelan president, Hugo Chavez, has described his US counterpart Barack Obama as a "poor ignoramus" during a television show.
Hugo Chavez is seeking to ensure that his core support, the poor, can still fill their shopping baskets with food Photo: REUTERS
11:02PM GMT 22 Mar 2009
The controversial leftist leader lampooned Mr Obama for apparently saying Mr Chavez had been exporting terrorism.
"Now they are going to accuse me of exporting terrorism? At the very least we could say 'poor ignoramus'. He should study so that he knows the reality of Latin America."
Mr Chavez also said Mr Obama had accused him of being an "obstacle to development in Latin America," without specifying where or when Mr Obama had supposedly made the comments.
"Such ignorance," Mr Chavez said during his weekly television address, "the real obstacle has been the empire that he today presides over, which has exported terrorism for nearly 200 years, has launched atom bombs on innocent cities, has bombarded, invaded and issued orders to kill whenever they have taken the notion."
Mr Chavez's comments come after a meeting on Thursday with US Democratic congressman William Delahunt, who is seen as testing the water for a normalisation of relations between the two countries.
Emeagwali, Gloria (History)
Mar 10, 2013, 9:23:34 PM3/10/13
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Abdul,
What made Chavez a Pan- Africanist? I think that we can call him a socialist, a populist, a Fidelista, a Bolivarian
or a Latino but not a pan-Africanist - but maybe you have some special information at your disposal.
I would hesitate also to call Fidel Castro a pan- Africanist even though he sent Cuban troops to
liberate Angola from apartheid South Africa's incursions and devoted a great deal of resources in assisting Black South Africans
through health and education personnel.
But, having said that, I am quite willing to change my views on this issue when you
provide relevant information about the pan- Africanist credentials
of Chavez.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Documentaries on Africa and the African Diaspora
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Hugo Chavez calls Barack Obama 'a poor ignoramus'
The Venezuelan president, Hugo Chavez, has described his US counterpart Barack Obama as a "poor ignoramus" during a television show.
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What made Chavez a Pan- Africanist? I think that we can call him a socialist, a populist, a Fidelista, a Bolivarian
or a Latino but not a pan-Africanist - but maybe you have some special information at your disposal.
I would hesitate also to call Fidel Castro a pan- Africanist even though he sent Cuban troops to
liberate Angola from apartheid South Africa's incursions and devoted a great deal of resources in assisting Black South Africans
through health and education personnel.
But, having said that, I am quite willing to change my views on this issue when you
provide relevant information about the pan- Africanist credentials
of Chavez.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Documentaries on Africa and the African Diaspora
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The Telegraph
Hugo Chavez calls Barack Obama 'a poor ignoramus'
The Venezuelan president, Hugo Chavez, has described his US counterpart Barack Obama as a "poor ignoramus" during a television show.
Hugo Chavez is seeking to ensure that his core support, the poor, can still fill their shopping baskets with food Photo: REUTERS
11:02PM GMT 22 Mar 2009
The controversial leftist leader lampooned Mr Obama for apparently saying Mr Chavez had been exporting terrorism.
"Now they are going to accuse me of exporting terrorism? At the very least we could say 'poor ignoramus'. He should study so that he knows the reality of Latin America."
Mr Chavez also said Mr Obama had accused him of being an "obstacle to development in Latin America," without specifying where or when Mr Obama had supposedly made the comments.
"Such ignorance," Mr Chavez said during his weekly television address, "the real obstacle has been the empire that he today presides over, which has exported terrorism for nearly 200 years, has launched atom bombs on innocent cities, has bombarded, invaded and issued orders to kill whenever they have taken the notion."
Mr Chavez's comments come after a meeting on Thursday with US Democratic congressman William Delahunt, who is seen as testing the water for a normalisation of relations between the two countries.
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11:02PM GMT 22 Mar 2009
The controversial leftist leader lampooned Mr Obama for apparently saying Mr Chavez had been exporting terrorism.
"Now they are going to accuse me of exporting terrorism? At the very least we could say 'poor ignoramus'. He should study so that he knows the reality of Latin America."
Mr Chavez also said Mr Obama had accused him of being an "obstacle to development in Latin America," without specifying where or when Mr Obama had supposedly made the comments.
"Such ignorance," Mr Chavez said during his weekly television address, "the real obstacle has been the empire that he today presides over, which has exported terrorism for nearly 200 years, has launched atom bombs on innocent cities, has bombarded, invaded and issued orders to kill whenever they have taken the notion."
Mr Chavez's comments come after a meeting on Thursday with US Democratic congressman William Delahunt, who is seen as testing the water for a normalisation of relations between the two countries.
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Abdul Karim Bangura
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Tell Gloria that they are Pan-Africanists because of what they did not just talking ideology.
Yaya Fanusie-Non Panafricanist
Yaya Fanusie-Non Panafricanist
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My wonderful Sister Gloria, The Great Pan-Afrikanist Hero Hugo Chavez, in addition to being very proud of his Afrikan heritage and features, supported Afrikan liberation movements and the formation of a Union of Afrikan States, and spoke out vociferously against Western bullies butchering our Afrikan people in Libya, Somalia, and elsewhere on the Motherland. How much more Pan-Afrikan can anyone be?
Are Fidel Castro and Che Guevera considered Pan-Afrikanists? Without a doubt. They fought to liberate Afrika and proud of their Afrikan ancestry. The Great Pan-Afrikanist Thomas Sankara, paid Cuba a visit, thanked Castro and our Cuban Family, and wrote eloquently about this. See also Che Guevera's diaries.
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Abdul Karim Bangura
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Emeagwali, Gloria (History)
Mar 11, 2013, 7:51:43 PM3/11/13
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OK, Abdul. I note your clarification but
I would add that Fidel, Hugo and Che were anti -colonial globalists.
They were revolutionaries struggling against
the legacies of colonialism and racial and class domination
every where.
On a different note,
I have just added a new video documentary:
'Focus on Africa with Professor Tunde Zack-Williams'
It can be viewed from 'africahistory.net.'
Professor Zack-Williams
reflects on China and Africa, Mali .... and much more.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History & African Studies
History Department
Central Connecticut State University
New Britain
CT 06050
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I would add that Fidel, Hugo and Che were anti -colonial globalists.
They were revolutionaries struggling against
the legacies of colonialism and racial and class domination
every where.
On a different note,
I have just added a new video documentary:
'Focus on Africa with Professor Tunde Zack-Williams'
It can be viewed from 'africahistory.net.'
Professor Zack-Williams
reflects on China and Africa, Mali .... and much more.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History & African Studies
History Department
Central Connecticut State University
New Britain
CT 06050
africahistory.net
vimeo.com/user5946750/videos
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Dr. Gloria,
I just looked in on your site. It is tremendous! Thank you so much for your efforts.
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Madam La Vonda,
Welcome back to the forum. It's been a while. I can settle down now and begin enjoying some of your musings again.
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Welcome back to the forum. It's been a while. I can settle down now and begin enjoying some of your musings again.
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Mario Fenyo
Mar 12, 2013, 8:39:20 AM3/12/13
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just a question. Does anti-imperialism exclude panafricanism? Or are these attitudes and policies complementary?
I met the medical personnel sent by Cuba in Namibia; They received nothing from the local authorities and the local people other than appreciation.
Dr. Mario D. Fenyo
University Professor of American History
Department of History and Government
Bowie State University
Bowie, MD 20715
USA
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I met the medical personnel sent by Cuba in Namibia; They received nothing from the local authorities and the local people other than appreciation.
Dr. Mario D. Fenyo
University Professor of American History
Department of History and Government
Bowie State University
Bowie, MD 20715
USA
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Emeagwali, Gloria (History)
Mar 12, 2013, 10:24:08 AM3/12/13
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"Does anti-imperialism exclude panafricanism? Or are these attitudes and policies complementary?" Fenyo
Well these policies and attitudes are complementary- but the terms are not synonymous.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History & African Studies
History Department
Central Connecticut State University
New Britain
CT 06050
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Well these policies and attitudes are complementary- but the terms are not synonymous.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History & African Studies
History Department
Central Connecticut State University
New Britain
CT 06050
africahistory.net
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