Was Satan Straight or Gay? Robert Mugabe Weighs In, Again!!!

[Okey Iheduru]

"U S SUPREME COURT IS MARCHING AMERICA TO HELL"--Mugabe.

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Okey Iheduru, 

[Samuel Zalanga]

Cheap talk. If he is serious about the Bible let him go and read the book of Amos and apply it to himself and the people of Zimbabwe. Let him talk publicly about the central message of the book of Amos the way he is talking on this gay issue consistently. People like him can mislead people who are uninformed.

 The woman in Kentucky wants to be a serious Christian but she is in her 3rd or 4th marriage. She is cherry picking and reading the Bible. She thinks the more she gets married the more the angels in heaven are happy because she is using her sexual organ appropriately as a heterosexual. Well, that is not the orthodox teaching of the scriptures she claims to stand by. She cannot claim exclusive knowledge of the scriptures, as Mark Twain said, English language is a joint stock company now owned by the share holders, the Queen has lost her monopoly. The woman or Mugabe or anyone cannot claim to have exclusive knowledge of scriptures. This is public information for anyone who cares to study it.  She has violated the Bible's injunction on divorce. So her opposition to gay marriage raises credibility question with regard to her true commitment to the Bible except if it is her own Bible or a socially constructed like that of Thomas Jefferson.

Amos was considered subversive by the official priest, Amaziah,  for speaking on behalf of the poor . Like Israel at that time, Mugabe has shut up all or most of the "prophetic voices" in his country. They are afraid because they can die mysteriously. I want to pursue a private vocation of using the same Holy Books that people use to get away with injustice to get back at them. We will go to the inner-sanctum of their faith and use the same scriptures to hold them accountable. The debate will be within scriptures and even there we can make a case for justice, fairness and equality.  It is cheap to focus on gay sin when there are many sins that the same Christian faith condemns e.g., charging interest on money -- usury. People are quiet on that.

Interestingly, Eve at least even in committing sin was not a dumb and stupid woman but she was intellectually curious. People like Mugabe will feel threatened by intellectually curious women like Eve. If he was intellectually curious like Even i.e., to know, he wold have been concerned about how a country that he leads that had great potential was destroyed. He is characterizing Eve in just sexual terms because he is not aware of the varied interpretation of scriptures.

Samuel

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[John Mbaku]

This reminds me of what former dictator of Malawi, Dr. Kamuzu Banda, said about God and Satan when he was answering a question about why he did not believe political competition was appropriate for Malawi: "There is no Opposition in Heaven. God himself does not want opposition--that is why he chased Satan away. Why should Kamuzu [President Banda] have opposition?"

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[Salimonu Kadiri]

Hell, Satan, Eve and Adam are the key words in Robert Mugabe's statement  which Samuel Zelanga responded to below. Robert Mugabi did not refer to any part of the bible or any religious book in making his statement about the anointment of homosexuality in the US by the US Supreme Court. In written or oral statement, hell, satan, Eve, and Adam can be used collectively or singularly without religious connection. Mugabe was being sarcastic about what he considered to be the ultimate end of same-sex marriage in US when he uttered those words. Physiologically, sexual intercourse, either for pleasure or procreation, can only occur between a male and a female. Even those who claim to be homosexuals are themselves products of sexual intercourses between opposite sexes, without which homosexuals could not have been brought to life. Every part of human body has a predetermined function. Thus, no human stands on the head to walk, breaths with the eyes and sees with the nose. The homosexual intercourse can be performed either orally or anally. In the first case, a male inserts his penis into the mouth of his partner and ejaculates to discharge. Biologically, human mouth is not a sexual organ, rather it is created only for drinking, eating and talking. In the second case, a male person inserts his penis into the anus of his male partner and ejaculates to deposit spermatozoa into the rectum of the penetrated partner. But researchers have found out that the reason for the danger of anal sex is, in part, the difference between the tissue construction of the male urethra and rectum and the female vagina. While the vagina is constructed of tough plate-like cells that resists rupture and infectious agents, and are designed to withstand the motions of intercourse and childbirth, the urethra and rectum are constructed primarily of columnar cells which tear or rupture easily. This allows semen to enter the more readily accessible blood vessels of the rectum or, conversely allows blood from a ruptured rectum to seep into the urethra of the inserted partner in an anal intercourse. Because of lack of natural lubrication and the tightness of the anus in comparison with the vagina the penis of the inserting homosexual could also bleed. The anus is not made to take anything in, while the vagina is made to occasionally receive the male organ. Lesbians practise not only tribadism but in modern Western World engage in sexual intercourse with electronic gargets. They even conduct oro-vaginal intercourse with one another by which they lick each other's vagina. The new thought in the West when it concerns sexual intercourse is not limited to same-sex alone, but now includes bestiality, romantically called, zoophilism which means sexual attraction to animals by humans. In some years to come, it would be legal in the Western World to drag a cow, horse or dog to the pulpit to be wedded as husband and wife. One does not need to be a certified religious person to be horrified at what the neo-liberal West pass off as fundamental human rights of choosing sexual preference. Kudo for Mugabe. 

S.Kadiri
 

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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 12:19:08 -0500
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Was Satan Straight or Gay? Robert Mugabe Weighs In, Again!!!
From: szal...@bethel.edu
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com

[kenneth harrow]

there is only one question for me here, which is why you feel the need to hammer at, hate, gays. why the homophobia?s do you know any gay people (that makes 2 questions)? don't you know they are real people, just like you?(3 questions, but really just one)
either we set people off to attack, or we try to accept people across differences.
you can interpret and believe in your scripture all you want, but if it leads you to disparage and hate people because of their sexual preferences, or race, or religious beliefs, that makes you a bigot.
i am sorry to see this lengthy diatribe disguised as science; let's call it pseudo-science.
ken

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[Samuel Zalanga]

Interesting argument. Mugabe in other contexts used religion and his audience is all about religion. Just watch some documentaries about this in Africa. It is about religion. Someone in Gombe put the same kind of defense and in five minute he was quiet because I told him that he has every right to reject homosexuality on Biblical grounds but he does not have the right after saying that to ignore other things that the Bible eloquently spoke about. In short, I told him that he had no credibility. It is just easy to point at someone's sins.

  I have a documentary that I taped recorded long ago about Mugabe's position on this issue. Sir, here is a story. When I was at the University of Jos, one high ranking officer was interviewed about the gay issue by a student. After the interview, in which the officer said that without heterosexual sex, human population will decline, the officer with a good sense of understanding directed the student to me for a different opinion.

 I told the student that to say that population will decline because of homosexual sex indicates a total lack of understanding of the trend of demographics. Just a knowledge of the "demographic transition theory" will serve for a start. In the U.S., the fertility rate for White families is around 1.7 or 8 or thereabout. The replacement level fertility rate is supposed to be minimum of 2.1.  If there was no immigration or the fact that minority fertility is high in the U.S. generally, U.S. population will be declining.

So even without homosexuality, many countries e.g., Japan, Italy, Germany etc, are facing population decline. People are not willing to have children because consumerism and other means of getting meaning in life  which abound in advanced modernity make having children be a liability.

Some years ago, I asked a Malaysian Muslim couple in Minnesota how many children will they have? They said just two because they want to travel around the world. You see. Often people critique some things on religious grounds but the same people have no courage in confronting modernity as a whole.

 I have a documentary film in my office where there was only one child in one public school in Japan. It is a national geographic documentary on population growth / decline. Why is Japan having such population growth decline when the issue is not homosexuality? I told the student that there is need to understand the complex nature of advanced modernity. Do you think that happiness comes only through having children in advanced modernity? Even if having children is meant to honor God, the meaning of God and what He represents has changed historically and over time for those who care to study that. I know you are very familiar with that. From teaching social theory, I lament the postmodern condition.

 And who said that the only way to derive meaning in life is through heterosexual sex. I am a heterosexual person and do not know or have experience of what it means to be gay, but I have invested a lot of time to understand what I consider the crisis of modernity. That woman in Kentucky, if she is going to stand for the bible, or orthodox Christian beliefs, she needs to migrate from the U.S. because there are too many things that are being violated. But she is insensitive to those things.  Traditional Christianity for some will never allow her to hold such public office as she is.

 In one emergent church I visited, one woman stood up and raised concern that the Pastor needs to give more guidance in such an emergent church. The pastor responded by telling the woman that she just violated one important biblical guideline according to the apostle Paul: Women are supposed to shut up in the place of worship. The audience laughed. Anyone who thinks the Christianity he sees around is like the true Christianity probably has no sense of history.For instance, the theory of atonement alone which is central to the Christian faith, --- well, there are five different theories. You can choose which one you want. This is a free market, in spite of the fact that atonement is central to Christian teaching. Welcome to the free market of religion why consumer taste is important and religious organizations like business firms have to be concerned about consumer taste when they produce their product i.e., their doctrine or teaching. .

 The  problem with liberal democracy is that the goal is not to promote any kind of absolute truth or specific guidelines on certain aspects of private behavior. It is not like Hegel's Truth Possessed, but for them, it is truth in pursuit and the way to determine the truth according to John Stuart Mill's "ON Liberty" is through debate or competition of ideas. What emerges as truth is a matter of process.

Just check the sex industry and see the tools or toys that people are using, male and female to cope with their sexuality. Do not be too simplistic in assuming that people in advanced modernity will use their sexual organs the way you described it. That way of thinking in research methods is considered "traditional or pre-modern.  You see you can call it stupidity but the human being in advanced modernity with an orientation of the romantics' view of human being, know that it is risky to climb the Colorado mountains during winter but they will do that and when they die, Americans say, they die doing what they love to do. If you do not like that, that is your  problem. That is the same thing with many things in advanced modernity. Do you know that even in Minnesota there are people who swap their wives and who cares? We track all these crisis of the postmodern condition.  I ordered a documentary about that and was surprise to learn about how some highly positioned women that it was liberating to use one machine that through vibration enables them to achieve sexual satisfaction. A liberal democracy cannot control producing those machines. And we do not know where this is going to end. Even in Africa, if liberal democracy take roots with free market capitalism, it will be difficult to police people's private behavior and their sexuality. Whether they decide to have oral sex or anal sex, I think in a liberal democracy the state will stop short of monitoring all these and when this happens, it is not because the everyone or every state official approves it.

 The kind of diversity you are dealing with in a liberal democracy can only happen when there is more autonomy given to the individual. Whether this is good or bad, is a subject that people will continue to debate. Herbert Marcuse would argues that advance modernity deceives people by giving them sexual gratification while constricting their freedom in other important areas e.g., economically, politically etc. The debate continuous but I am sorry to say that we already have crisis of population growth not because of homosexuality but the pursuit of bourgeois comfort and consumerism.

The crisis is just as he said, is exemplified by the fact that the modern human being in the West has been so smart to reject the idea of Biblical apocalypse based on medieval religious dogma, but only to embrace its possibility and reality because of science i..e, nuclear bombs and now climate change. For me, for those who worry about the gay issue, that is just an appearance of a deeper problem that Max Weber, the German Sociology saw as he expressed it in this statement where he felt overwhelmed by the crisis of advanced modernity in the Western world. He asserts with regard to the evolution of Western civilization or modernity in general thus:

"No one knows who will live in this cage in the future, or whether at the end of this tremendous development entirely new prophets will arise, or there will be a great rebirth of old ideas and ideals, or, if neither, mechanized petrification embellished with a sort of convulsive self-importance. For of the last stage of this cultural development it might well be truly said: 'Specialists without spirit, sensualists without heart; this nullity imagines that it has attained a level of civilization never before achieved'" Cited on p.164 of "Sociological Theory in the Classical Era: Text and Readings" by Desfor Edles et al.)

This is Weber expressing concern about the process of rationalization. To focus just on cultural issues like gay without understanding the nature and evolution of Western civilization will miss the point. Unfortunately I do not trust that those people in Washington on New York based on Weber's analysis know exactly where they are taking us to. That is why many people are withdrawing into their cocoon because they feel overwhelmed.

Samuel

[Abolaji Adekeye]

Mahatma Salimonu, you said:

"In written or oral statement, hell, satan, Eve, and Adam
can be used collectively or singularly without religious
connection. "

I do agree with you. Those names can be used in connection to
geography, economics, politics and most connectedly; medicine. The
religious connection is at most equal to or approximately zero.

"Physiologically, sexual
intercourse, either for pleasure or procreation, can only occur
between a male and a female."

Master, may I make bold to say that there is no orifice in the human
body that cannot give pleasure. When your he goat on heat is high
strung greedy and needy and the missus is entertaining her lunar
visitors; what do you do with yourself? Have you ever had your trumpet
blown, if so, did you speak in tongue; shout hallelujah or scream
eureka? Master can you distinguish between a female and a male mouth
in the throes of the BJ's pleasure? Remember that quaint joke: "Oh
darling suck it. Blow is a mere figure of speech."
Or this:
"When you get to Ibadan, ask for Mickey Mouth- He does the best blow
job in the whole South West."

Moreover it's not all intended heterosexual couplings that result in
procreation. That's why surrogacy and in vitro fertilisation and other
extrasexual methods were revealed to mankind, in due course, according
to the munificence of the designer / creator.

"The
homosexual intercourse can be performed either orally or
anally. In the first case, a male inserts his penis into the mouth of
his partner and ejaculates to discharge."

The homosexual intercourse is no more spectacular than everyday
heterosexual kind. Infact there is nothing in anal and oral sex that
is not, and cannot be practised by both the Homo kind of Sapiens and
the Hetero. And so dear master, you must have seen Broke Back
Mountain, what about Deep Throat? Have you read Puzo's The
Godfather's Johnny Fontane? What about Roth's Portnoy, whose complaint
is that: " To shoot a gun at a little quack-quack is fine, to suck my
cock is beyond her."
Do you like your fish filleted? Believe me, you'll like your bone
better, fellated.

"The anus is not made to take
anything in, while the vagina is made to occasionally receive the male organ."

The depth of this paragraph is unmatched by anything you've ever
written. Every school kid know the anus is made to shiitte only. It
occasionally takes in Dr's Dre. Yeah, Dre. Digital Rectal Examination.
It sometimes allow colonoscopy and allied probes.
And since the vijayjay is only allowed to receive the nodding thomas
into her court occasionally, tell me good sir, won't it make good
sense to bring in to active service other under- employed but equally
welcoming embassies (albeit with tighter security)?

"They even conduct oro-vaginal intercourse
with one another by which they lick each other's vagina."

Haa, Master, you have outdone your self. Generations to come would
marvel at your genius. Even though there's more than a whiff of
repression behind all these, it is better than depression. As
christians, we must and need to be repressed. A mere salacious
thought, a lascivious glance and one's soul is in mortal danger of
going to hell. Hell, helluva word, crops up again!

The most strident antiGay voices are found in the Catholic Church. And
there "no kid behind is left" by pious priest in their heavenly
duties. The AntiGay rabble reads like a passage in King Lear:

"You stupid cop, stop your violence! Why are you whipping that whore? You
should be whipping yourself, since you lust after her and yearn to do
the same thing for which you’re punishing her. One criminal punishes
another."


In the course of your mentorship, good master, I have discovered that
you are a fighter not a lover. Any lover, real lover, any good lover
worth a drop of semen knows the value of being bilingual: being able
to speak languages and the ability to speak in tongue. Men (and women
too) who speak in tongue are also called Cunninlingual.


Finally esteemed master, as a revolutionary, what say you about the
missionary state and other positions?

Thanking you for your time.

> never before achieved'" Cited on p.164 of "*Sociological Theory in the
> Classical Era: Text and Readings*" by Desfor Edles et al.)

>
> This is Weber expressing concern about the process of rationalization. To
> focus just on cultural issues like gay without understanding the nature and
> evolution of Western civilization will miss the point. Unfortunately I do
> not trust that those people in Washington on New York based on Weber's
> analysis know exactly where they are taking us to. That is why many people
> are withdrawing into their cocoon because they feel overwhelmed.
>
> Samuel
>
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunl...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>

>> *Hell, Satan, Eve and Adam are the key words in Robert Mugabe's statement

>> preference. Kudo for Mugabe. *
>> *S.Kadiri*
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>> *"U S SUPREME COURT IS MARCHING AMERICA TO HELL"--Mugabe.*

>> [image: Olumayokun Akinlosotu's photo.]
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>> <https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206743234526952&set=a.1773668548981.106123.1457319070&type=1>
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>> *Okey Iheduru, *

[Salimonu Kadiri]

Kenneth, I am neither hammering at, nor hating Sodomites and Tribades. In the same vein, I am assuring you that I have no phobia for Sodomites. If I say people should not drink alcohol and drive motor vehicles, that cannot, and should not, make me a hater of drunkards.
 
Kenneth, do you have walking preference as you have sexual preference? If yes, I urge you to stand on your head to walk in one of the main streets of Massachusetts and see what the police will do to you. I have not cited any chapter or verses of any religious doctrine to support the biological functions of human body. However, it appals me that you equated sexual perversion to race. Sexual perversion is acquired behaviour while race is genetical. 
 
When I say that the rectum is made for excretory and not for penis intrusion, partly because of its size, and partly because it does have the same kind of tough lining, lubrication and elasticity as vagina, you call that pseudo-science and me a bigot. Well, I will be very grateful if you can share with me your pure science proving anus is equal to vagina. Failure to do that will make you a maggot. As you know, maggots thrive in rot and decay which is why latrine is a five star hotel for maggots. It is maggottory to utilize anus for penis intrusion!!
S. Kadiri 

 

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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Was Satan Straight or Gay? Robert Mugabe Weighs In, Again!!!

To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com
From: har...@msu.edu
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 20:51:46 -0400

[John Mbaku]

Take a break from this fruitless "dialogue" and listen to the following song: "The Devil is a Liar" by Sipho Makhabane. If for anything, you will love the rhythm. You can find it on Youtube. And while you are doing so, remember that the final judge of sin and sinful acts and the one that really matters, is God (Jehovah, Allah). 

[kenneth harrow]

salimonu
i have two objections. first, what is the point of your long exegesis on bodily parts and sexuality, except to construct a notion of normalcy. why do people do that? it is to set the abnormal off, with the consequent denigration that always come with such judgments. secondly, when we describe these functions as being designed for this or that, that would be different if you were to say they evolved into those functions. the former implies a designer, and thus not only a normal reading of parts but a divine plan for them.

i don't know science; but i know how to read, to interpret texts, and to see where they tend. yours is conventional for homophobic constructions, for religious homophobia.
by evoking the repulsive with the intimate parts, your rhetoric would tend to shock the reader.

the reason i retorted, do you know gays, is because your presentation is enormously antagonist, it vilifies gays, it leaves the reader thinking they are maggots.
well, what does one do with maggots? one cleans them out.
so, in the end, yours is  rhetoric that justifies the violence against gays that has been used in many parts of the world, from russia to zimbabwe.
i would hope that we could mount a resistance to it, and rejoice with gays who can now openly show their love whereas before they were shamed and beaten down.
i find it shameful to belabor them in the way you have done in your postings.
ken

[Cornelius Hamelberg]

Ogbeni Kadiri,

Just a suggestion since your definitions are based on  what from your point of view  is "illegal" sexual activity...

When you claim that,” Physiologically, sexual intercourse, either for pleasure or procreation, can only occur between a male and a female”, methinks that in your homophobic zeal you are slightly overstating your case, considering that there must be (I assume) some sexual pleasure enjoyed by at least some gay people (woman to woman and man to man). Not all such relationships are purely platonic.

As you know, there are also perversions such as bestiality from which some people are also said to derive considerable sexual pleasure.

Slightly amended, your statement could read as follows: “Physiologically, sexual intercourse, either for pleasure AND procreation can only occur between a male and a female” – and thus pass the science litmus test…

Yours,

Menahem…

[Salimonu Kadiri]

Manahem,
You got it wrong!! My point of view is not based on *illegal sexual activity* but illicit sexual activity. The anus is an excretory organ and biologically, it is not a sexual organ to be penetrated with penis. Equally, the rectum is not the natural place to deposit sperm and semen. It is pure misuse or abuse of anus to penetrate it with penis or any other object like in fist-fucking as Sodomites call it. The natural habitat of penis in sexual intercourse is the vagina and not anus. Physiologically or biologically, you don't attempt to breath with your eyes and call it breathing preference, similarly, you never strive to see with your nose and call it seeing preference; and when I say the anus is not designed or meant for penis penetration, you call me a homophobe and talk sanctimoniously about sexual preference. I beg to disagree.
 
Your reference to bestiality would appear extravagant since I have mentioned it in the piece on which you are commenting. I even concluded that in few years time it would be legal in the Western World for a person to drag a horse, cow, or dog to the pulpit to be wedded as husband and wife.
 
My expression, *either for pleasure or procreation* was crafted out of the belief that partners in sexual intercourse can freely choose whether the purpose of their action is for pleasure or to procreate, which understandably does not exclude the choice for pleasure and procreation simultaneously. Thus I don't see how the expression,*either for pleasure or procreation* fails your science litmus test. I am ready to learn from you.
S. Kadiri
 

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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 17:50:32 -0700
From: cornelius...@gmail.com
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com

[Cornelius Hamelberg]

My Dear Ogbeni Kadiri,

There are theories that 10% of mankind is supposedly born with natural same sex attraction. Feeling the way that you do, you must thank your lucky stars that you were not born that way…

I do not  ”talk sanctimoniously” about these things – I am not gay  - and by the way if it’s still about “the preservation of life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness”, who made you  chief police constable over other people’s personal  private parts and what they do with them?

Concerning bestiality where is your compassion and understanding for this poor shepherd – or this scene from “Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Sex But Were Afraid To Ask ...”?

I notice that you have paid no heed to Professor Harrow beseeching you to refrain from “long exegesis on bodily parts and sexuality…..conventional for homophobic constructions, for religious homophobia by evoking the repulsive with the intimate parts, your rhetoric would tend to shock the reader.”

But it’s uncanny how you sound like Rabbi Avraham Greenbaum when he says  that ” sodomy degrades and abuses man's highest creative power, his seed, throwing it into the very gutter, the part of the body designed to expel poisonous waste and filth”

Once more your claim that, “Physiologically, sexual intercourse, either for pleasure or procreation, can only occur between a male and a female” is not correct:  Sex for pleasure does not only occur between a male and female.

What kind of LGBT legislation would you like to see in place all over Nigeria?

One last little question: Illegal and illicit  what’s the difference?

Yours,

Menahem….

We Sweden

[Salimonu Kadiri]

Kenneth, thank you very much for your lecture on this subject. I now know better. When I asserted that sexual intercourse in a heterosexual relation entails the insertion of the male penis into the female's vagina, I am not labelled a heterophobe. Conversely, when I asserted that sexual intercourse in a homosexual relation entails the insertion of the male penis into the male partner's anus/rectum, I am not only labelled a homophobe but accused of propagating a rhetoric that can incite to violence against homosexuals. The knowledge acquired in my exchanges with you is: it is a taboo to talk openly about what homosexuals do sexually while it is accepted to talk openly about what heterosexuals do sexually. From now on, I will just say sex is sex irrespective of how it is performed by the actors and none is repulsive!!
S.Kadiri
 

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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Was Satan Straight or Gay? Robert Mugabe Weighs In, Again!!!
To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com
From: har...@msu.edu

Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 19:35:08 -0400

[kenneth harrow]

dear salimonu
i wasn't lecturing anybody, but interpreting a posting. it may say something to be read literally, but we all know that the purpose of postings is to express views, and to do so using various discourses. it seemed transparent to me what your exegesis on the physiology of sexual/orifice purposes was all about.
the issue of homosexuality in africa is a hot topic. we can remain silent when gays are being attacked, one way or another, or just pass silently by.
my comment was a shout-out that we need to agitate for the protection of gays and their rights.
if you want to pretend that it was a lesson in physiology, i don't think you will find many, any, who will swallow that.
ken