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Well, al jazeera is good enough in reporting the abuses of israel in its bombing of gaza. For a while that was practically all the news one got from its web page, and even now its editorials are over the top. “Over the top” means too one-sided and poorly argued, as in today’s opinion piece by saul takahashi. I don't want to take the time to analyze its deficiencies, but they are striking. In contrast, the brilliant work of Sylvie Kaufman, editorialist for Le Monde, who today discusses a similar point--the decline of the west in its status, especially re human rights, versus the rise of the global south. She makes a strong case for how colonialization serves a function, as in the trial on genocide, that had been played by the shoah, in south africa's brilliant advocate blinne ne ghralaigh (an irish lawyer).Ken
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The Western press is certainly keeping the world updated on the Gaza reality and is also critical of Israeli strategy in this war.
In what way is Al Jazeera propaganda?
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“The humanitarian situation in Gaza is beyond words. Nowhere and no one is safe,” U.N. Secretary General António Guterres told reporters Monday. “Lifesaving relief is not getting to people who have endured months of relentless assault at anywhere near the scale needed.”
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Further to my point: today’s front page top story in the Washington Post, famine looming in gaza, entirely in israel’s hands: “CAIRO — Describing the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip in increasingly apocalyptic terms, aid agencies are urging Israel to ease the difficult and often dangerous process of delivering supplies to desperate Palestinians.”Pictures accompany thisKen
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As toyin and cornelius have detailed israel’s abuses in bombing gaza, i want to provide an example of the new york times’ reporting. It has been showing pictures of wounded or killed gazans, including women and children and their suffering, for quite some time. On Page 6 of today’s paper there is a spread showing the devastating force of one of israel’s bombs. The headline: One of Israel’s Most Destructive Bombs Dropped in SO-Called Safe Area.The piece begins: “During the first six weeks of the war in CGaza, Israel routinely dropped one of its biggest andmost destructive bombs in areas it designated safe for civilians, according to analysis of evidence by the Nw York Times.Theregular use of 2,000-lb bombs suggests that even for Gazans who followed every Israeli evacuation order and advisory, there was still no safety to be found in a war zone that is more dangerous for civilians than any in recent history.”OThe pictures show a child buried in the rubble and the massive destruction. The article is too long for me to type out, but it includes the information that israel claimed a hamas leader was killed. No one knows how many civilians were killed, and only a monster could justify the killings on the groups israel offered.
My point is to demonstrate with this one example that any claims that the western press is pro-israel and anti-gazan is wrong, not only here, but in many many other daily examples. I can’t think of a newspaper piece that would be more devastating than this, unless it were in the form of outright propaganda, which unfortunately al jazeera has become. (Not that they’re wrong, but that you know their news before you see it).
If the claim is that mainstreat tv news is pro israel and avoids this kind of reportage, i must confess i have no idea as i don’t watch tv news. But i could easily find comparable pieces to this on the bbc news, washington post, and of course the guardian, as well as le monde and liberation in france.Ken
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Chidi,
Check out what the Quran says about mischief-makers
Believe it or not, the rest of us, the devil, he, she, it, they ( The New York Times), we’re all biased. Some of us are indeed biased, on the side of human rights and justice. Some of us are humble enough to say like Abraham Lincoln, who at the height of the American Civil War when told by one of his advisers that he was grateful that God was on the side of the Union, replied “Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, for God is always right”
As your brother, the bard sang in his bird song,
“Now there's spiritual warfare and flesh and blood breaking down
Ya either got faith or ya got unbelief and there ain't neutral ground”
Biased or not, here’s Scott Ritter (Jewish) sounding off:
Ceasefire in Gaza saved Israel, 𝐇𝐀𝐌𝐀𝐒 will defeat them before Hezbollah takes the North
To his credit, on the 4th of December 2023, Professor Harrow did write,
“ netanyahu and his government have earned the opprobrium of practically the entire world. His brutality and butchering of the people of gaza can never be forgiven. And like the stupidity of hamas’s violence, this violence in return promises to ensure palestinian and arab hostility for years to come. At the least it has awakened the demon of antisemitism around the world.
Those who believe that might makes right, that bludgeoning your enemy ensures their subordination, have a lesson to learn here from palestinian resistance”
Right or wrong, Gautama Buddha said that change is the only thing that we can be sure of. About that, even the non-Buddhists agree, just as we all agree that time has passed and that as time passes, things can get progressively a lot better or things can deteriorate rapidly and get a lot worse. We all agree that with time, people change - can change - and that’s why we observe a change of perception and wonder how the same Amnesty International’s area representative Professor Kenneth Harrow who on the 26th of October 2023, wrote
“ I do take seriously al jazeera’s claims, and even if they and the ny times have their orientations, their reportage seems pretty serious”
can without batting an eyelid, write on the 19th of January 2024,
“al jazeera is good enough in reporting the abuses of israel in its bombing of gaza. For a while that was practically all the news one got from its web page, and even now its editorials are over the top. “Over the top” means too one-sided and poorly argued, as in today’s opinion piece by saul takahashi. I don't want to take the time to analyze its deficiencies, but they are striking..”
“One-sided”? When it comes to Palestinian news, what else is there to report?
Isn’t that what the Israeli media, especially Arutz Sheva and Netyanahua’s other cheerleaders most overwhelming report, their “victories '' in support of the shameless Netanyahu who says “We are at war and we will win" - “we shall win” as if he’s fighting against China, North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan or Vietnam, when tooth and nail, by hook and crook, and in truth, like a war criminal and a crook he’s only fighting against little Gaza without any weapons of mass destruction, without an army, internet, electricity, navy or airforce, a little Gaza locked in as an open-air prison, an open-air concentration camp that he’s bombing gleefully, day and night, Sabbath or no Sabbath, keeping holy or not keeping holy the Sabbath, bombing, relentlessly. Thou shalt not kill, but “we will win”. Will win what? It's Alright Ma :
"Disillusioned words like bullets bark
As human gods aim for their mark"
Bobby Dylan didn't miss the mark fuming about the likes of Netanyahu:
All that Al Jazeera has been doing - unchanged - consistent - is to keep on reporting the ongoing carnage - and as we all - without exception - know, after the 7th of October the carnage has been and continues to be one-sided with the hapless, poor, defenceless, besieged people of little Gaza (one-10th the size of Cape Town) on the receiving end of 2,000-pound Israeli bombs, mortar fire from Israel’s elite battalions cruising around in their super Israeli tanks, and more missile bombardment being delivered relentlessly by land, sea and air, so that today, the 19th January 2024 the death toll in Gaza is 24,762 Palestinian souls - to date, more than 10, 000 children killed in Gaza and to that, the fact that in the last 100 days, 390 schools, and a few universities in Gaza have been completely destroyed - children and young people being the future, that’s the Palestinian future being killed. If you had a situation in which 10, 000 Israeli children had been systematically killed, 390 schools and a few Israeli universities had been destroyed in about 100 days, the blinking Blinken would have been long gone, vanity’s old Joe Biden would not be shuffling around in his diapers appealing to AIPAC and hoping that the Israeli Lobby would back him as he shuffled around seeking a second term, and needless to say by then Glory be toGodthe highest, Netanyahu would no longer be “winning “ because he would be where he belongs: firmly behind bars.
So - it’s history being made and of course, that's all that Al-Jazeera has to report - and all that bloody footage that’s being recorded will never be erased by future revisionists,pro-Zion apologists, genocide and holocaust deniers.
Doubt that Professor Harrow disagrees with anything that is being reported in Amnesty International’s dossier on Israel’s Human Rights record of their barbaric treatment of Palestinians In the Occupied Territories in 2023 and from the beginning of the occupation till now, Israel’s cruel ongoing system of Apartheid being imposed on the Palestinians
With all due respect, Professor Harrow has no choice but to plead not guilty here, to being at covertly or obviously pro-Zion and pro-the carnage and destruction being perpetrated by the genocidal IDF, the so-called Israeli “defence” forces which as evidenced by their so called “operations “ in Gaza are tantamount to nothing less than State-sponsored terrorism, i.e. the demonic Israeli state terrorism waged by the unholy trinity comprising the War Criminal Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the illegal settler and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, and at the head of the bomber, killer, extermination forces, Defence Minister Yoav Galant as the whole world knows,the whole unholy state contraption led by the longest serving prime minister, the most corrupt Benjamin Netanyahu and his much touted and hyped “ most extreme right wing government of Israel ” since the United Nations gave the green light to the partition of Palestine into two states, and today, seventy-five years later, 75 years after the Nakba, after rivers of blood shed, today, the colonial-oppressor Chief Benjamin Netanyahu is shouting publicly that he’s opposed to the creation of a Palestinian State.
Question: Are you Chidi, also opposed to a two-state solution?
Ken,Discerning observers know who and what Al Jazeera represents. As far as this Israel-Hamas conflict is concerned, Al Jazeera cannot be unbiased. The pro-Hamas (pro-Arab)slants are obvious to the discerning.Meanwhile, bias in news information disemination erodes credibility.-Chidi Anthony Opara (CAO).Well, al jazeera is good enough in reporting the abuses of israel in its bombing of gaza. For a while that was practically all the news one got from its web page, and even now its editorials are over the top. “Over the top” means too one-sided and poorly argued, as in today’s opinion piece by saul takahashi. I don't want to take the time to analyze its deficiencies, but they are striking. In contrast, the brilliant work of Sylvie Kaufman, editorialist for Le Monde, who today discusses a similar point--the decline of the west in its status, especially re human rights, versus the rise of the global south. She makes a strong case for how colonialization serves a function, as in the trial on genocide, that had been played by the shoah, in south africa's brilliant advocate blinne ne ghralaigh (an irish lawyer).Ken
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The Western press is certainly keeping the world updated on the Gaza reality and is also critical of Israeli strategy in this war.
In what way is Al Jazeera propaganda?
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Toyin
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and the UN voice as well: couldn’t be worse. Quoted in wash post
“The humanitarian situation in Gaza is beyond words. Nowhere and no one is safe,” U.N. Secretary General António Guterres told reporters Monday. “Lifesaving relief is not getting to people who have endured months of relentless assault at anywhere near the scale needed.”
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - A huge amount is at stake in the ICJ’s genocide judgment( Israel Gaza Conflict)Further to my point: today’s front page top story in the Washington Post, famine looming in gaza, entirely in israel’s hands: “CAIRO — Describing the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip in increasingly apocalyptic terms, aid agencies are urging Israel to ease the difficult and often dangerous process of delivering supplies to desperate Palestinians.”Pictures accompany thisKen
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - A huge amount is at stake in the ICJ’s genocide judgment( Israel Gaza Conflict)As toyin and cornelius have detailed israel’s abuses in bombing gaza, i want to provide an example of the new york times’ reporting. It has been showing pictures of wounded or killed gazans, including women and children and their suffering, for quite some time. On Page 6 of today’s paper there is a spread showing the devastating force of one of israel’s bombs. The headline: One of Israel’s Most Destructive Bombs Dropped in SO-Called Safe Area.The piece begins: “During the first six weeks of the war in CGaza, Israel routinely dropped one of its biggest andmost destructive bombs in areas it designated safe for civilians, according to analysis of evidence by the Nw York Times.Theregular use of 2,000-lb bombs suggests that even for Gazans who followed every Israeli evacuation order and advisory, there was still no safety to be found in a war zone that is more dangerous for civilians than any in recent history.”OThe pictures show a child buried in the rubble and the massive destruction. The article is too long for me to type out, but it includes the information that israel claimed a hamas leader was killed. No one knows how many civilians were killed, and only a monster could justify the killings on the groups israel offered.
My point is to demonstrate with this one example that any claims that the western press is pro-israel and anti-gazan is wrong, not only here, but in many many other daily examples. I can’t think of a newspaper piece that would be more devastating than this, unless it were in the form of outright propaganda, which unfortunately al jazeera has become. (Not that they’re wrong, but that you know their news before you see it).
If the claim is that mainstreat tv news is pro israel and avoids this kind of reportage, i must confess i have no idea as i don’t watch tv news. But i could easily find comparable pieces to this on the bbc news, washington post, and of course the guardian, as well as le monde and liberation in france.Ken
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Gaza will be the grave of the Western-led world order
By supporting Israel’s atrocities in Gaza, the West has shredded what remains of its credibility and brought the ‘rules-based’ world order it purports to lead to the point of no return.
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Cornelius, you accuse me of being pro-zion and pro-the carnage and destruction. Is this something i myself do not know? Hasn’t every word i have posted—and i’ve posted plenty—expressed my being anti-the carnage and destruction?With all respect, you are misrepresenting my position, which i’ve expressed over and over.
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The Western press is certainly keeping the world updated on the Gaza reality and is also critical of Israeli strategy in this war.
In what way is Al Jazeera propaganda?
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“The humanitarian situation in Gaza is beyond words. Nowhere and no one is safe,” U.N. Secretary General António Guterres told reporters Monday. “Lifesaving relief is not getting to people who have endured months of relentless assault at anywhere near the scale needed.”
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - A huge amount is at stake in the ICJ’s genocide judgment( Israel Gaza Conflict)Further to my point: today’s front page top story in the Washington Post, famine looming in gaza, entirely in israel’s hands: “CAIRO — Describing the humanitarian situation in the Gaza Strip in increasingly apocalyptic terms, aid agencies are urging Israel to ease the difficult and often dangerous process of delivering supplies to desperate Palestinians.”Pictures accompany thisKen
Kenneth HarrowEmeritus Professor of English, Michigan State UniversityHarrow@msu/edu
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - A huge amount is at stake in the ICJ’s genocide judgment( Israel Gaza Conflict)As toyin and cornelius have detailed israel’s abuses in bombing gaza, i want to provide an example of the new york times’ reporting. It has been showing pictures of wounded or killed gazans, including women and children and their suffering, for quite some time. On Page 6 of today’s paper there is a spread showing the devastating force of one of israel’s bombs. The headline: One of Israel’s Most Destructive Bombs Dropped in SO-Called Safe Area.The piece begins: “During the first six weeks of the war in CGaza, Israel routinely dropped one of its biggest andmost destructive bombs in areas it designated safe for civilians, according to analysis of evidence by the Nw York Times.Theregular use of 2,000-lb bombs suggests that even for Gazans who followed every Israeli evacuation order and advisory, there was still no safety to be found in a war zone that is more dangerous for civilians than any in recent history.”OThe pictures show a child buried in the rubble and the massive destruction. The article is too long for me to type out, but it includes the information that israel claimed a hamas leader was killed. No one knows how many civilians were killed, and only a monster could justify the killings on the groups israel offered.
My point is to demonstrate with this one example that any claims that the western press is pro-israel and anti-gazan is wrong, not only here, but in many many other daily examples. I can’t think of a newspaper piece that would be more devastating than this, unless it were in the form of outright propaganda, which unfortunately al jazeera has become. (Not that they’re wrong, but that you know their news before you see it).
If the claim is that mainstreat tv news is pro israel and avoids this kind of reportage, i must confess i have no idea as i don’t watch tv news. But i could easily find comparable pieces to this on the bbc news, washington post, and of course the guardian, as well as le monde and liberation in france.Ken
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Dear Kenneth,
In my very considered opinion, being pro-zion is meritorious in every redemptive sense in which the term ZION can be used when the Redemption of Israel is implied.
However, apart from me (yours truly) as you and everyone else in this series probably does not know, knowing your anticolonialism stand and your thirst for Human Rights as we do, GOD FORBID that I could or would accuse you of perpetrating a crime as heinous as being “pro-the carnage and destruction” of the Palestinian People
I did begin by exonerating you thus :
“To his credit, on the 4th of December 2023, Professor Harrow did write,
“ netanyahu and his government have earned the opprobrium of practically the entire world. His brutality and butchering of the people of gaza can never be forgiven. And like the stupidity of hamas’s violence, this violence in return promises to ensure palestinian and arab hostility for years to come. At the least it has awakened the demon of antisemitism around the world.
Those who believe that might makes right, that bludgeoning your enemy ensures their subordination, have a lesson to learn here from palestinian resistance”
How then could I contradict the position that I have attributed to you, quoting your own words?
I admit that it was quite a long sentence but here it is again for you to re-read with COMPREHENSION, with the NOT GUILTY in beautiful, bold, black & proud letters, so that you don’t miss it this time and you don’t conflate YOU, with that unholy trinity being led by that war criminal Netanyahu & the counsellors in his His War Cabinet :
“With all due respect, Professor Harrow has no choice but to plead not guilty here, to being at covertly or obviously pro-Zion and pro-the carnage and destruction being perpetrated by the genocidal IDF, the so-called Israeli “defence” forces which as evidenced by their so called “operations “ in Gaza are tantamount to nothing less than State-sponsored terrorism, i.e. the demonic Israeli state terrorism waged by the unholy trinity comprising the War Criminal Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the illegal settler and National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, and at the head of the bomber, killer, extermination forces, Defence Minister Yoav Galant as the whole world knows,the whole unholy state contraption led by the longest serving prime minister, the most corrupt Benjamin Netanyahu and his much touted and hyped “ most extreme right wing government of Israel ” since the United Nations gave the green light to the partition of Palestine into two states, and today, seventy-five years later, 75 years after the Nakba, after rivers of blood shed, today, the colonial-oppressor Chief Benjamin Netanyahu is shouting publicly that he’s opposed to the creation of a Palestinian State. “
Satmar and Neturei Karta oppose the reconstituted, post-Holocaust nation of Israel and the genocidal militarism that currently maintains it, they imply, without the blessings of the Almighty. It’s doubtful that the Almighty approves of what the warmongers are doing in Gaza.
Perhaps, the Almighty is looking forward to a law-abiding, democratic post-Apartheid children of Israel living in peace and harmony with their Arab neighbours and the rest of the world - "the Nations" - the family of the earth’s people.
Harrow, Kenneth
kenneth harrow
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Dear Kenneth,
Many thanks for the clarity of your visionary ideals of how you would like things to be.
Sometimes, it’s a bit of a challenge striking a judicious balance between addressing you (as if privately) and simultaneously trying to get to the audience beyond - an audience that could be less interested or interested but with less background information about for example the topic at hand, in this case, the coming ICJ judgement on the charges of genocide that have been made against Israel even as evidence to substantiate South Affrica’s genocide claims is mounting and should be made available to the court as - according to the BBC, Israel continues their bombardment of Southern Gaza.
I’m only now just learning about the 2013 Indictment Against the State of Israel on Charges of War Crimes, Crimes Against Humanity, Genocide
For your dream to come true, and to achieve the necessary internal/ domestic cohesion and calm, plus some love and respect from the Arab neighbours and the family of nations - in a country that is usually most united at times of war, Israel will have to stop being a rogue state, an outlaw state - as described in this al-Jazeera article that you are railing against, and Israel, land of the Hebrew Prophets, could start setting a good example by deciding to begin abiding by International law for a change, just like everybody else, and just as you say,
“ israel has to become, like all other states, a safe home for all people, not just jews; a state governed by respect for the human rights and humanity of all people. it has to accept living with muslims and surrounded by muslims, and not imagine the resolution to palestinian demands is to crush them, as netanyahu and his henchmen are now attempting to do.”
True: In the real world, post-Nietzsche and the death of god, post-Zionism’s secular prophet Herzl, post-Holocaust and the ensuing theological doubts about Divine Intervention, the absence of God's hands in the whole sordid affair (the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - not Hitler’s God whose blood the Catholic priests drink up like wine), Israel’s first prime minister Ben-Gurion himself and the early kibbutzim were not exactly ultra orthodox Jews, which does not justify or support your post-Balfour Declaration that you ”can't accept any religious justification for israel as a state” - as if it’s going to be a special World Jewry Day for such a referendum, when in reality it’s only you sitting over there in Diaspora Michigan getting ready for a second coming /a second round of Trump or Biden, as if your power to accept or not to accept any religious justification for Israel as a state is going to impact the direction Israel is going to take after Netanyahu is placed firmly behind bars (like an animal) - and of course, right up to the Qiyamat we expect that he’s going to go on insisting that he’s ”not guilty”, wishing, like all the Palestinian prisoners in the West Bank (ancient Judea and Samaria) and in the open air concentration camp which is Gaza, Netanyahu will soon be pleading, “I Shall Be Released !”
Re - ”unlike you, dear cornelius, i can't accept any religious justification for israel as a state”
I must have given you the wrong impression by merely mentioning the word redemption - the very basis of some of the claims being made worldwide by the adherents of the three Zionisms, the religious, the secular ideology, and the spiritual, all under the blanket term known as Zionism, which the aforementioned Zionists continue to make two thousand years later, about the right to a homeland that Netanyahu is now claiming to be his, “from the River to the Sea.”
More accurately, you could say that just like the anti-Zionist people of Satmar and Neturei Karta who have a wait-and-see attitude ( post-Haman, post-Eichmann, and post-Nixon) waiting for God who moves in His mysterious ways, in His own sweet time do the ingathering of all the exiles and the trumpet blasts that will announce the start of the Messianic age ) although at this point, as a post-Holocaust Jew living in the United States ( “a safe home for all people”) in your case at least under the protection of Uncle Sam, you “can't accept any religious justification for israel as a state”
I can only say that if the Jewish State - the State for Jews, that the religious and political Zionists and Netanyahu's Extreme Right Wing Government may have in mind, should they want to resurrect the Sanhedrin and implement The Laws Against Non-Jews, that would only further enrage the demons of antiSemitism, worldwide
One of the more positive effects of antisemitism could be that it brings the scattered Jewish people together, and unites them in love and understanding against the common enemy, what you have described as “ the demon of antisemitism around the world.” Perhaps, the new wave of antisemitism that’s brewing, will hasten the footsteps of the Jewish Moshiach
Rabbi Kook, the first Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of British Mandatory Palestine, said that every war brings the Messiah and the Redemption of the Jewish people closer - in his own words here On Waging War
Finally, not even the Zionists are proposing that the current nation of Israel should morph into theocracy to be on par with other theocracies in the neighbourhood, such as my best friend, the Islamic Republic of Iran, nor are the Zionists at this stage ( ah nostalgia) proposing that the monarchy be restored in Israel - back to the good old days of King David and the Wisest King Solomon - to be on par with The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
More bad news :
Pressure mounts on Israeli government over Gaza war
Harrow, Kenneth
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Dear Kenneth,
In this fast-moving landscape, what to make of these blips :
UAE & Saudi Send Damming Final Message
Iran Announces 5 INSANE New Weapons & STUNS Israel!
Toothless sabre-rattling?
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Professor Harrow,
It’s also difficult to swallow the fact that even as Israel's slaughter of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank escalates, oil continues to be supplied from OIC countries from Arab League Countries and from some of the Gulf States to Israel, ostensibly to lubricate Israeli industries and the Israeli war-making machinery…
There’s a long list of countries supporting the South African genocide case against Israel and the call for an immediate ceasefire - but that is toothless, merely paying lip service when there’s not even any talk of bringing more pressure to bear on the Israel warmongers through sanctions, boycotts, and severing of all diplomatic relations, and even threatening all-out war.
How can the Arab inertia be explained? That they have all their oil wealth stashed in Israeli, American, and European banks, and they are afraid that Uncle Sam will freeze or steal all their assets if they as much as lift a little finger against God’s anointed children, Israel?
That they have some Israeli women like Queen Esther and American women like Marlyn Monroe, among their favourites in their harems?
That the Israelis have a lot of dirt on them, and the more repressive regimes that you have referred to, are already hopelessly compromised and simply cannot do without the Pegasus spyware and other surveillance equipment supplied to them by the Israelis?
That in the long run the Sunni Arabs of that neighbourhood hope and pray that Uncle Sam under genocide Biden or the Donald, it doesn’t matter to them which of the two) will eventually downsize their rivals the Islamic Republic of Iran once and for all ?
At this lecture which was held on the 3rd of October, 2023, I did ask Raphael Cohen-Almagor what he thought was the future of the Abraham Accords etc, and he wasn’t very optimistic. Maybe I should phone and ask him what he - as a man of peace - thinks could be the short-term/immediate future of the Middle East - short of it all going up in smoke and ash…
“Cause I've seen some hot, hot blazes come down to smoke and ash”
(Joni Mitchell - Help Me
From her album Court and Spark (1974 -