THE IGBO AND THE PRESIDENCY IN 2023.
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Anthony Akinola
Sep 2, 2019, 9:43:19 AM9/2/19
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Second Republic Presidential Adviser on National Assembly Matters, Alhaji Tanko Yakassai, has literally thrown hard punches at a former governor of Anambra State, Dr Chukwuemeka Ezeife, for threatening that Ndigbo would pull out of Nigeria if denied the presidency in 2023.
In a text message he sent to the Tribune Online in Ibadan, the Oyo State capital on Sunday, Yakassai said such “blackmail” should not come from an elder statesman like Ezeife that should appreciate the place of dialogue and persuasion in a participatory democracy.
The octogenarian said he was disappointed that Dr Ezeife ascribe to the style of the leader of the proscribed Indigenous People of Biafra (IPOB), Nnamdi Kanu that indulged in weeping up ethnic sentiments, despite the dire implications.
Asked on his thought on the ongoing horse-trading preparatory to the 2023 presidency, Dr Ezeife had told a tabloid published on Sunday that the Igbo would no longer be part of the country if the next president did not come from the South-East.
His words: “I have said it before, if the South-East is denied presidency in 2023, Igbo citizenship of Nigeria should be forgotten. It is automatic. Olusegun Obasanjo from the Southwest had done it; Muhammadu Buhari is the president now.
“There is no other tribe except the minor ones that has not done it. So, if Igbo cannot do it, Igbo citizenship of Nigeria is lost automatically. And it will be Nigeria pushing the Igbo out of the country like Buhari has been doing. In every way, Nigeria is pushing the Igbo out. The final push is to allow the presidency elude the Southeast in 2023.”
Calling for uttermost restraint and caution, Yakassai said similar utterances in the past caused the Nigerian civil war, with the concomitant massive destruction of lives and properties.
“While I all along have been advocating for a President for Nigeria from the zone, I would like to advice that issuing threats as was reflected in a view ascribed to my good friend, Dr Eziefe is, in my views, not the right approach to achieve that objective in a multi-dimensional country such as Nigeria.
“Besides, the normal way of political advocacy is done through persuasion rather than threats and black mail. At his age, national standing and exposure, I am not happy to hear a person like Dr. Eziefe speaking in the same vain as Nnamdi Kalu and his likes. Nnamdi Kalu is only engaging in rhetoric to appeal to the sentiments of young Ibo people who are oblivious of the consequences of what they do.
“We have experienced this kind of careless mantra that led to the loss of many lives and destruction of many properties during the unfortunate civil war in our recent history.
Dr Eziefe as an elder by right and a former elected governor of the most populous state with more enlightened and advanced people in the entire South-East geopolitical zone, a retired and seasoned civil servant of note, should be above this kind of rhetoric.”
Yakassai said the Igbo remained the major beneficiary of the huge population of the country through commerce and industry, stressing that it was incomprehensible for anyone to contemplate the Igbo pulling out of Nigeria.
“Dr Eziefe is undoubtedly aware that the people of the South-East are the major beneficiaries of the 200 million people market that made up of today’s Nigeria. No other ethnic group in the rest of our country are in competition with the South-Easterners in the field of commerce and industry today, and this is likely to be the case in the foreseeable future. For anyone to be thinking of any situation that will lead to the pulling out of the South-East people from this huge market is without any doubt making a wrong calculation.
“I am an ardent supporter of seeing the emergence of a Nigerian president from the South-East geopolitical zone. My stand is informed by my patriotic desire to see equity and justice is done to Nigerians from that area so that like their bretherens from the North and West, they too got the opportunity to have one of their own emerges as the president of Nigeria.
“But, this can only be achieved in a democratic setting through persuasion rather than threats and black mail. Politicking is about debate and exchange of ideas so that holders of different political viewpoints can win the support of their rivals by advancing superior arguments and reasons.
This is what democracy is all about. There is no other way of going about it. The sooner this is appreciated and respected, the better in a civilised discourse. All Nigerians should appreciate the need to subscribe to its sustenance,” Yakassai said
segun ogungbemi
Sep 3, 2019, 6:29:05 AM9/3/19
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I think Elder Stateman, Yakassai is objective in his response to the issue of an Igbo man clinching the position of President of Nigeria in 2023.
As fair as his position is, it leaves more to be desired.
In a proper democratic system the position of President of Nigeria is for anyone the people elect through the ballot box.
The major ethnic groups in Nigeria as I am concerned are Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo.
The Fulanis are a minority ethnic group but they are smart enough to pair their group with the Hausas.
In my view, the Igbo ought to take a political strategetic cue from the Fulanis and pair themselves with several minority groups in the South South because participatory democracy in Nigeria is a game of numbers.
Former Governor Eziefe should be reminded what the Igbos gladly asserted when President President Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan won the election in 2011 that he was one of them, an Igbo President. The Adminstration of President Jonathan favored the Igbos more than any other ethnic groups in the country. There was no IPOB or dissident groups that agitated for Igbo President then.
Eight years after the Igbo President left Aso Rock, the Igbos want one of their own again, and if not, Nigeria as we know it today will become oblivion. Participatory democracy doesn't work that way.
To assauge the feelings of all ethnic groups in the country, in my opinion, a true constitutional federalism like what we had at Independence is a way out.
The other alternative solution, which I think is the best for now, is for each group to be on its own like we have in Europe. It will accelerate infrastructural development and economic growth. If an Igbo wants to be Preident of the Ndigbo it will be decided by their people. The same goes for the Yoruba people in the Southwest and the rest of them in Kogi and Kwara. The Hausas, Kanuris, Fulanis, Ijaws etc will decide what is best for themselves.
The early we resolve the political narratives of living together as I have suggested the better so that peace and harmony will reign supreme without accrimonies.
Prof. Segun Ogungbemi.
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OLAYINKA AGBETUYI
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I think the only majority grouping who should threaten to pull out of Nigeria if one of their own is not President is the Yoruba.
Aare Abiola should have been the full Yoruba leader to lead Nigeria but was murdered in gaol because of the Northern Oligarchy's (represented by Babangida)envy if the Yoruba.
Instead what the nation got was the same man representing Igbo and Yoruba interests: Obasanjo. Babangida knew this very well that is why while refusing to de-annuling Abiola's electoral victory he was first to rush to secure the release of Obasanjo from
goal.
A northern came after Obasanjo then another south easterner. As such only the Yoruba has nit produced an exclusively geographical candidate to rule the country.
If this is not possible in 2023 then the Constitution should be amended to substitute the position of the President for that of Presidential Council from the regions.
The Yoruba cannot wait for ever only to continue to be short changed at the last moment when they have played their own part in an agreed bargain.
OAA.
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This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (I think Elder Stateman, Yakassai is objective in his response to the issue of an Igbo man clinching the position of President of Nigeria in 2023.
As fair as his position is, it leaves more to be desired.
In a proper democratic system the position of President of Nigeria is for anyone the people elect through the ballot box.
The major ethnic groups in Nigeria as I am concerned are Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo.
The Fulanis are a minority ethnic group but they are smart enough to pair their group with the Hausas.
In my view, the Igbo ought to take a political strategetic cue from the Fulanis and pair themselves with several minority groups in the South South because participatory democracy in Nigeria is a game of numbers.
Former Governor Eziefe should be reminded what the Igbos gladly asserted when President President Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan won the election in 2011 that he was one of them, an Igbo President. The Adminstration of President Jonathan favored the
Igbos more than any other ethnic groups in the country. There was no IPOB or dissident groups that agitated for Igbo President then.
Eight years after the Igbo President left Aso Rock, the Igbos want one of their own again, and if not, Nigeria as we know it today will become oblivion. Participatory democracy doesn't work that way.
To assauge the feelings of all ethnic groups in the country, in my opinion, a true constitutional federalism like what we had at Independence is a way out.
The other alternative solution, which I think is the best for now, is for each group to be on its own like we have in Europe. It will accelerate infrastructural development and economic growth. If an Igbo wants to be Preident of the Ndigbo it
will be decided by their people. The same goes for the Yoruba people in the Southwest and the rest of them in Kogi and Kwara. The Hausas, Kanuris, Fulanis, Ijaws etc will decide what is best for themselves.
The early we resolve the political narratives of living together as I have suggested the better so that peace and harmony will reign supreme without accrimonies.
Prof. Segun Ogungbemi.
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Julius Eto
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You claimed: "A northern came after Obasanjo then another south easterner."
Not true. Jonathan's from SS, not SE.
So you believe there's a "Northern Oligarchy"?
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 9:25:14 AM GMT+1, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think the only majority grouping who should threaten to pull out of Nigeria if one of their own is not President is the Yoruba.
Aare Abiola should have been the full Yoruba leader to lead Nigeria but was murdered in gaol because of the Northern Oligarchy's (represented by Babangida)envy if the Yoruba.
Instead what the nation got was the same man representing Igbo and Yoruba interests: Obasanjo. Babangida knew this very well that is why while refusing to de-annuling Abiola's electoral victory he was first to rush to secure the release of Obasanjo from
goal.
A northern came after Obasanjo then another south easterner. As such only the Yoruba has nit produced an exclusively geographical candidate to rule the country.
If this is not possible in 2023 then the Constitution should be amended to substitute the position of the President for that of Presidential Council from the regions.
The Yoruba cannot wait for ever only to continue to be short changed at the last moment when they have played their own part in an agreed bargain.
OAA.
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Not true. Jonathan's from SS, not SE.
So you believe there's a "Northern Oligarchy"?
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 9:25:14 AM GMT+1, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think the only majority grouping who should threaten to pull out of Nigeria if one of their own is not President is the Yoruba.
Aare Abiola should have been the full Yoruba leader to lead Nigeria but was murdered in gaol because of the Northern Oligarchy's (represented by Babangida)envy if the Yoruba.
Instead what the nation got was the same man representing Igbo and Yoruba interests: Obasanjo. Babangida knew this very well that is why while refusing to de-annuling Abiola's electoral victory he was first to rush to secure the release of Obasanjo from
goal.
A northern came after Obasanjo then another south easterner. As such only the Yoruba has nit produced an exclusively geographical candidate to rule the country.
If this is not possible in 2023 then the Constitution should be amended to substitute the position of the President for that of Presidential Council from the regions.
The Yoruba cannot wait for ever only to continue to be short changed at the last moment when they have played their own part in an agreed bargain.
OAA.
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OLAYINKA AGBETUYI
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There was a Northern Oligarchy behind Babangida's never ending transition. Everyone knows that. That was their only way of keeping power permanently in the North.
Aare Abiola's inky crime was he win an election to put an end to the game and that was why they swore he would never come out of gaol alive.
They instigated Abacha to kick Sonekan out to continue the game to confirm it was not just Babangida that was the problem. It was a well organised script. Some of them like Maitama Sule spoken after the annulment.
OAA.
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You claimed: "A northern came after Obasanjo then another south easterner."
Not true. Jonathan's from SS, not SE.
So you believe there's a "Northern Oligarchy"?
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 9:25:14 AM GMT+1, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not true. Jonathan's from SS, not SE.
So you believe there's a "Northern Oligarchy"?
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019, 9:25:14 AM GMT+1, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I think the only majority grouping who should threaten to pull out of Nigeria if one of their own is not President is the Yoruba.
Aare Abiola should have been the full Yoruba leader to lead Nigeria but was murdered in gaol because of the Northern Oligarchy's (represented by Babangida)envy if the Yoruba.
Instead what the nation got was the same man representing Igbo and Yoruba interests: Obasanjo. Babangida knew this very well that is why while refusing to de-annuling Abiola's electoral victory he was first to rush to secure the release of Obasanjo from
goal.
A northern came after Obasanjo then another south easterner. As such only the Yoruba has nit produced an exclusively geographical candidate to rule the country.
If this is not possible in 2023 then the Constitution should be amended to substitute the position of the President for that of Presidential Council from the regions.
The Yoruba cannot wait for ever only to continue to be short changed at the last moment when they have played their own part in an agreed bargain.
OAA.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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Aare Abiola should have been the full Yoruba leader to lead Nigeria but was murdered in gaol because of the Northern Oligarchy's (represented by Babangida)envy if the Yoruba.
Instead what the nation got was the same man representing Igbo and Yoruba interests: Obasanjo. Babangida knew this very well that is why while refusing to de-annuling Abiola's electoral victory he was first to rush to secure the release of Obasanjo from
goal.
A northern came after Obasanjo then another south easterner. As such only the Yoruba has nit produced an exclusively geographical candidate to rule the country.
If this is not possible in 2023 then the Constitution should be amended to substitute the position of the President for that of Presidential Council from the regions.
The Yoruba cannot wait for ever only to continue to be short changed at the last moment when they have played their own part in an agreed bargain.
OAA.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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So,the oligarchy no longer exist? I mean, is the oligarchy still in place?
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There was a Northern Oligarchy behind Babangida's never ending transition. Everyone knows that. That was their only way of keeping power permanently in the North.
Aare Abiola's omly crime was he won an election to put an end to the game and that was why they swore he would never come out of gaol alive.
They instigated Abacha to kick Sonekan out to continue the game to confirm it was not just Babangida that was the problem. It was a well organised script. Some of them like Maitama Sule spoke after the annulment.
OLAYINKA AGBETUYI
Sep 5, 2019, 1:56:32 AM9/5/19
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Elements of the Oligarchy still exists but not in the form they existed. Remember the genesis of the Oligarchy was the impending eclipse of the NPN by the UPN following NPNs lack lustre performance in the Second Republic. It revolved around Umaru Dikko
the kleptocratic Task Force on Rice Mandarin (and that was why Buhari's decision to crate him back to Nigeria to face justice spelled his ( Buhari's ) doom. ) Sealed by his decision to bring the Oligarchys military pointsman ( Babanguda) to justice..
They knew Shagari could not manage the economic crisis yet they did not want to yield power to the oppositional leader who could have: Awolowo, a southerner. Hence the bandwagon (rigged) electoral victory of 83 which did not improve the prospects of Shagari's
handling the economy so the only option was to send in their military wing ensconced in the Nigerian military and who controlled the upper echelons hoping the disciplined nature of the military would result in a disciplined control of the national economy
on behalf of the Oligarchy. The man they chose ran foul of the points man of the Oligarchy (Babangida) because he did not know he (Babangida) was beholden to higher supra military authorities. In order words he took his military assignment too seriously
and the rest is history.
To answer your question directly. Although the rump of the Oligarchy still exists they can never be as successful as they did in a military era because democracy allows for dissent that military regimes do not tolerate. There are other power configurations
around the country that the centre must listen to in order to continue in office. The rump was responsible for those Buhari's wife complained hijacked governance from her husband and whom Arewa youths recently complained of manipulating Buhari to his failure.
In a military regime they would not be able to express such dissent. Upon the expression of dissent by Buhari's wife and elements in the SW , Buhari was forced to change tact to assuage hurt feelings because he knew he would need their support for a second
term. That would not be possible in a military regime. He could choose to ignore you unless you had people in the military who could overthrow him.
And that - is the beauty of democracy ( it may not be perfect though!)
OAA
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So,the oligarchy no longer exist? I mean, is the oligarchy still in place?
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Julius Eto
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So the northern oligarchy only arose to stop the great sage (Awo) and not existing since Sadauna or even Dan Fodio?
Plus, according to you, the oligarchy, in 1983, sent Buhari of its military wing to oust its inept Shagari of the trado-political wing instead of allowing power to return to the south via Awo? Truly, the great sage won that year's poll after forming nationwide alliances and Nigerians were fed up with Shagari's/NPN's ineptitude and corruption since narrowly winning the 1979 election.
Therefore, can we say Buhari still represents the oligarchy?
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Plus, according to you, the oligarchy, in 1983, sent Buhari of its military wing to oust its inept Shagari of the trado-political wing instead of allowing power to return to the south via Awo? Truly, the great sage won that year's poll after forming nationwide alliances and Nigerians were fed up with Shagari's/NPN's ineptitude and corruption since narrowly winning the 1979 election.
Therefore, can we say Buhari still represents the oligarchy?
OLAYINKA AGBETUYI
Sep 8, 2019, 8:28:40 AM9/8/19
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No. Buhari is the product of a nationwide alliance.
The rump of the oligarchy attempted to hijack Buhari ( and are still trying) as Umarru Dikko led the oligarchy to hijack the NPN ( a party originally formed in Aare Abiola's sitting room as a NATIONAL party but turned into the Northern Party of Nigeria.)
who told Abiola he could not run for the President because the party was not for sale. A statement confirmed by another member who said the presidency had been zoned to the North by God!
You will recall that Babangida said he knew those who would not succeed him. You will recall how Musa YarAdua told Newswatch Babangida ( who was supposed to be an impartial umpire in his elongated transition) gave him a small contract to allow him fight
the election. You will recall how YarAdua then massively rigged the elections in the West while Babangida looked the other way until Arthur Nzeribe stopped a repeat performance in the East by buying all the voting cards before election day so thay when Babangida's
electoral officers declared him winner he(Nzeribe) asked them to show the evidence there was elections because he (Nzeribe) already bought the voting cards before election day.
There the plot of Babangida and Yar Adua prominent members of the Oligarchy was rumbled. This paved the way for June 12. This was why June 12 was not acceptable to Babangida and the Oligarchy who instructed him to annul the election.
OAA
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So the northern oligarchy only arose to stop the great sage (Awo) and not existing since Sadauna or even Dan Fodio?
Plus, according to you, the oligarchy, in 1983, sent Buhari of its military wing to oust its inept Shagari of the trado-political wing instead of allowing power to return to the south via Awo? Truly, the great sage won that year's poll after forming nationwide alliances and Nigerians were fed up with Shagari's/NPN's ineptitude and corruption since narrowly winning the 1979 election.
Therefore, can we say Buhari still represents the oligarchy?
Plus, according to you, the oligarchy, in 1983, sent Buhari of its military wing to oust its inept Shagari of the trado-political wing instead of allowing power to return to the south via Awo? Truly, the great sage won that year's poll after forming nationwide alliances and Nigerians were fed up with Shagari's/NPN's ineptitude and corruption since narrowly winning the 1979 election.
Therefore, can we say Buhari still represents the oligarchy?
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Julius Eto
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Thanks for the explanation. But you said the oligarchy, in 1983, sent Buhari of its military wing to oust its inept Shagari of the trado-political wing instead of allowing power to return to the south via Awo?
That means he is still a member of the oligarchy although he returned to power via "a nationwide alliance."
Is this correct?
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That means he is still a member of the oligarchy although he returned to power via "a nationwide alliance."
Is this correct?
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