The Control People are attempting to take over us.*
Daryl Hunt
suggest you look after your own interests and get into us.config for
representation. Right now, the Control Group is shouting everyone down that
disagrees with them. They are losing a bit of steam but their tricks are
still present.
If you wish for them to control the complete US.* and make the rules on who
can and can't post, abuse the rules themselves while enforcing them with an
iron hand, don't get involved and let the whole shebang go down the tubes
fast.
I suggest that you need to get involved and get what is best for all instead
of what one small group demands that you want (they want).
Eric Vey
University of Maine?
"Daryl Hunt" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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RTO Trainer
wrote:
>UMA?
>University of Maine?
>
us.military.army a group of the us.* hierarchy, just as the groups
this is posted to are.
I'm one of the people he's complaining about, but if you have a
genuine interest in the way us.* is managed and orgainzed, I'll
amplify his invitation to you to come to us.config to check it out.
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"RTO Trainer" <bill....@us.army.mil> wrote in message
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Eric Vey
Excuse me, but as a former enlisted man, I am naturally suspicious of
anything that uses such a blatant address. I am also suspicious of any
"by invitation only" group, whether it be the BPOE (Elks), the Masons,
or a newgroup.
Is there some sort of secret handshake?
"RTO Trainer" <bill....@us.army.mil> wrote in message
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Pulver
Eric Vey wrote:
>
> UMA?
> University of Maine?
nah! that would of needs be UME
Given daryl's grade 6 intellect and his paranoia you
need not concern yourselves about what he means.
Pulver
Bonnie White wrote:
>
> I'd like to check into it. How do I?
us.config
Pulver
Eric Vey wrote:
>
> >us.military.army <
>
> Excuse me, but as a former enlisted man, I am naturally suspicious of
> anything that uses such a blatant address. I am also suspicious of any
> "by invitation only" group, whether it be the BPOE (Elks), the Masons,
> or a newgroup.
>
> Is there some sort of secret handshake?
What "by invitation only" group???
Bill White simply suggested you look in on us.config,
the administrative group for the us.* hierarchy. In
addition to those above there are:- us.military.army,
us.miliyary.navy, us.legal, us.legal.self-represent,
us.politics and ten more
BTW: Bill is National Guard on active duty somewhere.
Bonnie White
wondering what exactly I am supposed to be on the lookout for. I do not
have the time to read all the posts.
Bonnie
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"Daryl Hunt" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Daryl Hunt
"Bonnie White" <ldy...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Ok, now I've gone and subscribed to this group(us.config) and I am
> wondering what exactly I am supposed to be on the lookout for. I do not
> have the time to read all the posts.
Well, Bonnie. Think of this. One small group from one NG area decided that
the Hiearchy Admin must be replaced. This was, of course, after a series of
defeats in attempting to "Demand" changes that could not be done in a sane
world. They decided to take it to the next limit. Flood the area where
nothing else could get done with Group Mission Trolling and Posting
messages. You all know the definition of a Mission Troll. Now, do it using
people that plan their every move using Email and Phone Calls. It's usually
pretty affective unless someone in the Power Seat notices it. It was
noticed.
The formation of a Committee to replace the current Admin would be made up
primarily of these folks that have lost every battle in us.config. Don't
take it for their face value. Henrietta Thomas is the Admin for us.*. Ask
her her opinion. Then stand back and watch the bunch go to work.
Ask questions and you make your own determination. Choice is a wonderful
thing. Don't let someone else make it for you. You took the first step.
Now, generate some questions for others to answer.
Daryl Hunt
> I'd like to check into it. How do I?
>
> Bonnie
Bonnie, like you subcribed to whatever NG you are writing this in, subsribe
to us.config the same way. It should be carried on your news server.
Tank Fixer
says...
> >us.military.army <
>
> Excuse me, but as a former enlisted man, I am naturally suspicious of
> anything that uses such a blatant address. I am also suspicious of any
> "by invitation only" group, whether it be the BPOE (Elks), the Masons,
> or a newgroup.
And it isn't invitation only, RTO was just extending the invitation.
> Is there some sort of secret handshake?
Nope...
--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.
Tank Fixer
says...
Yes, ask questions. More importantly look at the post at the beginning of
many of the threads.
Or read a number of post from each poster. daryl, myself, snark, HKT, Ed.
Make up your own mind.
Daniel J. Stern
> "Bonnie White" wrote:
> > Ok, now I've gone and subscribed to this group(us.config) and I am
> > wondering what exactly I am supposed to be on the lookout for. I do not
> > have the time to read all the posts.
>
> Well, Bonnie. Think of this. One small group from one NG area decided that
> the Hiearchy Admin must be replaced. This was, of course, after a series of
> defeats in attempting to "Demand" changes that could not be done
<etc.>
Daryl, what you wrote does absolutely nothing to answer Bonnie's valid
question: How will the current bickering over administration of the us.*
series of newsgroups affect the average non-administrator's experience in
participating in discussions held in these groups?
DS
Daryl Hunt
"Daniel J. Stern" <das...@engin.umich> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.44.03103...@alumni.engin.umich.edu...
The more that joins in with pertinent inputs and opinions whether they be
for or against anything does help and if the Committee is formed it gives a
more crosshatch of ideals since there are more people to give those inputs.
It delutes one small group and usually is much healther for all involved.
Don't get me wrong. I am not against the Commitee idea. I presented
roughly the same idea 2 years ago. I am just against the current method and
the results if successful. But the basic idea is a sound one if all get
involved that it affects.
Daryl Hunt
"Tank Fixer" <paul.the.c...@us.army.mil> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a0b9a54b...@news.west.earthlink.net...
You trying to run her off? Let her ask her own questions instead of wading
through all the noise. It's way past being healthy and new blood is badly
needed.
>
> Make up your own mind.
Oh, no, that's tow things in one day we agree on. did the Sun go nova when
I wasn't looking?
Big Bad Mamma JimS Pnats
>UMA?
>University of Maine?
>
Dammm those Mainonites! ;)
Watch my mental breakdown as it happens.
http://mspoopiepants.blogspot.com/
I'm posting...be very afraid.
Tank goodness for usenet to keep track of my major life events.
I never learned how to socialize from my family. I might as well have been raised by a pack of wolves.
Paul A. Thomas
Daniel J. Stern
> The more that joins in with pertinent inputs and opinions whether they
> be for or against anything does help and if the Committee is formed it
> gives a more crosshatch of ideals since there are more people to give
> those inputs. It delutes one small group and usually is much healther
> for all involved. Don't get me wrong. I am not against the Commitee
> idea. I presented roughly the same idea 2 years ago. I am just against
> the current method and the results if successful.
Once again you have failed to answer a very simple and straightforward
question. Now -- without resorting to slogans, generalities and statements
of principle -- How will the outcome of the current bickering over
administration of the us.* series of newsgroups affect the average
non-administrator's experience in participating in discussions held in
these groups?
DS
edward ohare
<ldy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Ok, now I've gone and subscribed to this group(us.config) and I am
>wondering what exactly I am supposed to be on the lookout for. I do not
>have the time to read all the posts.
The quick story is this. The documents that give us.* its form say a
committee will be formed to manage us.*. They don't say much else.
An RFD to support a committee followed by a poll indicates about 75%
of those who responded want a committee.
The hierarchy Admin, Henrietta Thomas, (the position is described as
"temporary" pending the formation of a comittee in us.* documents) has
denied the validity of the RFD, saying she has complete control of
us.* for as long as she likes.
Daryl Hunt, who is one of two of Ms. Thomas' supporters, has stated
she is the evil people know, and that's preferable to the unknown evil
of a committee. So, with that recommendation, you can see that even
one of her supporters is highly disatisfied.
You might find it interesting. Take your asbestos undies... just in
case.
RTO Trainer
<ldy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>I'd like to check into it. How do I?
>
>Bonnie
Just add us.config to your newreaders subscribed list, or look up
us.config on google groups.
RTO Trainer
wrote:
>>us.military.army <
>
>Excuse me, but as a former enlisted man, I am naturally suspicious of
>anything that uses such a blatant address. I am also suspicious of any
>"by invitation only" group, whether it be the BPOE (Elks), the Masons,
>or a newgroup.
>
>Is there some sort of secret handshake?
>
There is no 'by invitation only" rule. Its a public, unmoderated
newsgroup. just add it to your newreader's subscribtion list and
viola.....
Anyhow, usenet addys usually are pretty blatant, its kinda the point.
Ditto Pnats
wrote:
I stonglee suspect Daryll is a bot and unable to answer a straite forwerd
question. Sadlee, I am sexualle attracted to bots.
Ditto Pnats
Do u tink that next tyme there could be a committee abowt why teh song Disco
Inferknow by teh Trampsss dribes me into a poesting frenzee?
Daryl Hunt
"Daniel J. Stern" <das...@engin.umich> wrote in message
I answered but I can't give you the answer you want. You have to go find
out for yourself. Unless you wish to be ruled by others, that is. In that
case, don't go. The more people that get involved the better it is a
crosshatch of what the majority wishes.
And you will notice that one of the responses to you is by one of the "IN"
group who just trolls.
Daryl Hunt
"edward ohare" <edward...@NOSPAMyahoo.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:3fa2ac7d...@news.alt.net...
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:33:28 -0600, "Bonnie White"
> <ldy...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >Ok, now I've gone and subscribed to this group(us.config) and I am
> >wondering what exactly I am supposed to be on the lookout for. I do not
> >have the time to read all the posts.
>
> The quick story is this. The documents that give us.* its form say a
> committee will be formed to manage us.*. They don't say much else.
> An RFD to support a committee followed by a poll indicates about 75%
> of those who responded want a committee.
>
> The hierarchy Admin, Henrietta Thomas, (the position is described as
> "temporary" pending the formation of a comittee in us.* documents) has
> denied the validity of the RFD, saying she has complete control of
> us.* for as long as she likes.
Until something changes and more people become involved, that's the way it
is. What I am trying to do is to get more people involved. This is the
only way that I can see to get what we both want. But to do it using the
Group Mission Trolls only leavens them in charge and that would trash the
whole system. Many of us have seen how they attempt to dictate in the one
group and it's been quite apparent in us.config as well. If we can get a
large number of interested people involved in the process that should dilute
the problem enough to finally get the committee we need.
>
> Daryl Hunt, who is one of two of Ms. Thomas' supporters, has stated
> she is the evil people know, and that's preferable to the unknown evil
> of a committee. So, with that recommendation, you can see that even
> one of her supporters is highly disatisfied.
You are giving misinformation once again. The count is much higher. But I
notice that when someone does disagree (not necessarily agreeing with HKT)
one of your new found friends goes to work on them. You are sided with
Group Mission Trolls who DEMAND that they control things. Of course he
snipped anything of value of the original poster. The method used is to
snip it down to not meaning a thing and then gang posting to bury it by the
group. Is this what you want in charge of the entire Hiearchy including
this one?
Case in point by Tank Fixer in response to someone that pretty well summed
up what is going on.
paul.the.c...@us.army.mil
In article <ps95qv8mn76vn0nle...@4ax.com>, eddie-de-
lon...@onetel.net.uk says...
>
> It seems that this NG like the <uk.local> news groups is about to
>
>
Hmmmm, Spam....
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When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.
>
> You might find it interesting. Take your asbestos undies... just in
> case.
And when you finally decide to stop feeding the Group Mission Trolls, they
just might slow down a bit.
Tank Fixer
says...
>
> You trying to run her off? Let her ask her own questions instead of wading
> through all the noise. It's way past being healthy and new blood is badly
> needed.
>
How is that daryl ? I suggested she research for herself.
Tank Fixer
says...
>
> Case in point by Tank Fixer in response to someone that pretty well summed
> up what is going on.
>
> paul.the.c...@us.army.mil
> In article <ps95qv8mn76vn0nle...@4ax.com>, eddie-de-
> lon...@onetel.net.uk says...
> >
> > It seems that this NG like the <uk.local> news groups is about to
> >
> >
>
> Hmmmm, Spam....
>
>
yup daryl, and that bot has posted the same exact rant over and over is a
couple of other newsgroups.
Daryl Hunt
> In article <bnt4s1$15ma50$1...@ID-203896.news.uni-berlin.de>, m...@privacy.net
> says...
> >
>
> > You trying to run her off? Let her ask her own questions instead of
wading
> > through all the noise. It's way past being healthy and new blood is
badly
> > needed.
> >
>
> How is that daryl ? I suggested she research for herself.
Then let's both stop the trolling on this one.
Daryl Hunt
> In article <bnv9ql$163dnd$1...@ID-203896.news.uni-berlin.de>, m...@privacy.net
> says...
> >
> > Case in point by Tank Fixer in response to someone that pretty well
summed
> > up what is going on.
> >
> > paul.the.c...@us.army.mil
> > In article <ps95qv8mn76vn0nle...@4ax.com>, eddie-de-
> > lon...@onetel.net.uk says...
> > >
> > > It seems that this NG like the <uk.local> news groups is about to
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hmmmm, Spam....
> >
> >
>
>
> yup daryl, and that bot has posted the same exact rant over and over is a
> couple of other newsgroups.
Not much different than your bunch, eh?
Tank Fixer
Daniel J. Stern
> > Once again you have failed to answer a very simple and straightforward
> > question. Now -- without resorting to slogans, generalities and statements
> > of principle -- How will the outcome of the current bickering over
> > administration of the us.* series of newsgroups affect the average
> > non-administrator's experience in participating in discussions held in
> > these groups?
>
> I answered but I can't give you the answer you want.
You didn't answer, you sloganeered. Not a thing in your rant pertained to
the day-to-day experience for regular, non-administrative users of us.*
newsgroups. Try again.
> You have to go find out for yourself.
I'm already a regular participant in us.config. What I'm pointing out to
you, Daryl, is that you're utterly failing to advance your particular
agenda.
DS
Daryl Hunt
"Daniel J. Stern" <das...@engin.umich> wrote in message
Hmm, It seems that you haven't posted there in a very, very long time,
there Danny Boy. And my only agenda is to not do what they want so blamed
noisy and not nearly as power hungry. But I suggest you start posting so we
can know you are there. Afterall, they have already stated that only those
that post on a frequent basis should have any consideration.
Daryl Hunt
"Daniel J. Stern" <das...@engin.umich> wrote in message
And I will ignore your trolling. So have a nice day, Troll.
Daniel J. Stern
> "Daniel J. Stern" <das...@engin.umich> wrote
> > I'm already a regular participant in us.config. What I'm pointing out to
> > you, Daryl, is that you're utterly failing to advance your particular
> > agenda.
>
> Hmm, It seems that you haven't posted there in a very, very long time
Four posts in the last week alone, Daryl. And I voted in the RFD, which
means my name and e-mail address ought to have been very easy for you to
spot...if you'd actually looked.
DS
Tank Fixer
says...
Ahh the silence...
RTO Trainer
-0500, "Daniel J. Stern" <das...@engin.umich> exclaimed:
My honest opinon: It won't. However, I do beleive that people, so
inclined, should express their opinons in these matters even where it
is merely academic.
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