Hippocratic Oath and Abortion - (Abortionists Are NOT Doctors)
Doc Tavish
http://www.ohiolife.org/people/hippo.htm
Hippocrates (460 - 377 BC)
I swear by Apollo, the Physician, and Aesculapius and All-Heal and all
the gods and godesses that, according to my ability and judgement, I
will keep this Oath and Stipulation:
To reckon him who taught me this art equally dear to me as my parents,
to share my substance with him and relieve his necessities if
required; to regard his offspring as on the same footing with my own
brothers, and to teach them this art if they should wish to learn it
without fee or stipulation, and that by precept, lecture and every
other mode of instruction, I will impart a knowledge of the art to my
own sons and to those of my teachers, and to disciples bound by a
stipulation and oath, according to the law of medicine, but to none
others.
I will follow that method of treatment which, according to my ability
and judgement, I consider for the benefit of my patients, and abstain
from whatever is deleterious and mischievous. I will give no deadly
medicine to anyone if asked, nor suggest any such counsel;
furthermore, I will not give to a woman an instrument to produce
abortion.
With purity and with holiness I will pass my life and practice my art.
I will not cut a person who is sufferring with a stone, but will leave
this to be done by practitioners of this work. Into whatever houses I
enter I will go into them for the benefit of the sick and will abstain
from every voluntary act of mischief and corruption, and further from
the seduction of females or males, bond or free.
Whatever, in connection with my professional practice, or not in
connection with it, I may see or hear in the lives of men which ought
not to be spoken abroad, I will not divulge, as reckoning that all
such should be kept secret.
While I continue to keep this oath unviolated may it be granted to me
to enjoy life and the practice of the art, respected by all men at all
times, but should I trespass and violate this oath, may the reverse be
my lot.
The University of Chicago has put together some interesting
information on the present status and usage of the Hippocratic Oath.
http://ccme-mac4.bsd.uchicago.edu/CCMEPolicies/MedCodes/Hippo
The Declaration of Geneva
After World War II and the Nazi "medical experiments" in concentration
camps, the World Medical Association issued the "Declaration of the
Geneva" to update the Hippocratic Oath and reaffirm its most important
ideals.
The Declaration of Geneva is rarely referenced today.
I solemnly pledge myself to consecrate my life to the service of
humanity. I will give to my teachers the respect and gratitude which
is their due; I will practice my profession with conscience and
dignity; the health of my patient will be my first consideration; I
will respect the secrets which are confided in me; I will maintain by
all means in my power the honor and noble traditions of the medical
profession; my colleagues will be my brothers; I will not permit
considerations of religion, nationality, race, party politics, or
social standing to intervene between my duty and my patient; I will
maintain the utmost respect for human life, from the time of
conception; even under threat, I will not use my medical knowledge
contrary to the laws of humanity. I make these promises solemnly,
freely, and upon my honor.
The above is the original, 1948 version. This was amended in 1983 to
specify that secrets will be maintained "even after the patient has
died", and to change the reference to "conception" to "beginning of
life".
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The following is to counter a certain vicious person who prefers to
making personal attacks rather than providing documented and
verifiable evidence. I dedicate this to abortion apologist Matthew
Truebain Pillsbury:
http://ccme-mac4.bsd.uchicago.edu/CCMEPolicies/MedCodes/Hippo#prolife
"A.D. 1995 Restatement of the Oath of Hippocrates (Circa 400 B.C.)."
I SWEAR in the presence of the Almighty and before my family, my
teachers and my peers that according to my ability and judgment I will
keep this Oath and Stipulation:
TO RECKON all who have taught me this art equally dear to me as my
parents and in the same spirit and dedication to impart a knowledge of
the art of medicine to others. I will continue with diligence to keep
abreast of advances in medicine. I will treat without exception all
who seek my ministrations, so long as the treatment of others is not
compromised thereby, and I will seek the counsel of particularly
skilled physicians where indicated for the benefit of my patient.
I WILL FOLLOW that method of treatment which according to my ability
and judgment, I consider for the benefit of my patient and abstain
from whatever is harmful or mischievous. I will neither prescribe nor
administer a lethal dose of medicine to any patient even if asked nor
counsel any such thing nor perform act or omission with direct intent
deliberately to end a human life. I will maintain the utmost respect
for every human life from fertilization to natural death and reject
abortion that deliberately takes a unique human life.
WITH PURITY, HOLINESS AND BENEFICENCE I will pass my life and practice
my art. Except for the prudent correction of an imminent danger, I
will neither treat any patient nor carry out any research on any human
being without the valid informed consent of the subject or the
appropriate legal protector thereof, understanding that research must
have as its purpose the furtherance of the health of that individual.
Into whatever patient setting I enter, I will go for the benefit of
the sick and will abstain from every voluntary act of mischief or
corruption and further from the seduction of any patient.
WHATEVER IN CONNECTION with my professional practice or not in
connection with it I may see or hear in the lives of my patients which
ought not be spoken abroad I will not divulge, reckoning that all such
should be kept secret.
WHILE I CONTINUE to keep this Oath unviolated may it be granted to me
to enjoy life and the practice of the art and science of medicine with
the blessing of the Almighty and respected by my peers and society,
but should I trespass and violate this Oath, may the reverse be my
lot.
Adapted and endorsed by 35 inter-faith ethicists and physicians.
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Here is Matt Pillsbury showing one and all his lust in his defense of
man's inhumanity to man:
From: Matt Pillsbury <pil...@seesig.edu>
Subject: Re: Abortionists Are NOT Doctors
Date: 14 Dec 1998 14:17:01 -0500
Organization: Procrastinators for a Better Tomorrow
Sender: m...@brsp.ml.org
Message-ID: <m0soeio...@brsp.ml.org>
[--Whacked newsgroups left'n'right. a.p.l.w left in so Scott can
watch his (repeated) net.death on the abortion groups.--]
doc_t...@newsguy.com (Doc Tavish) writes:
Oooh. The Gutless Wonder has returned, with another 600+ lines of
badly edited webspew.
> On 7 Dec 1998 22:57:59 GMT...@worker.com (Khazar Adam Levenstein)
> <366c5d49...@news.psu.edu> wrote:
> Xref: http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=419767415
> > On 7 Dec 1998 04:14:41 GMT, "PAUL" <thel...@att.net> wrote:
> > >Okay, murdering doctors is wrong - period. So is murdering
> >> in-utero babies, but that hasn't stopped you, has it? Paul Laird
> > Ah, the "but" without actually using "but." :)
> > I agree, murdering doctors is wrong. Period.
> Who can claim "abortionists" are truthfully doctors especially when
> they prove false to the Hippocratic Oath?
Well, not really. Not that they swear the Hippocratic Oath anymore in
the first place.
> Notice what the Hippocratic
> Oath says:
>http://weber.u.washington.edu/~rells/workshops/effective/hippo_brev.html
Um, Scotty, this was the one that was edited for brevity. Why didn't
you post a link to the full text? [1]
Could it be that it shows you to be a dumb fucking liar?
> Hippocratic Oath
> Edited by R. Ells
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Indeed.
[...]
> Now I ask Adam Levenstein and his "pro-death" brethren: just how does
> an abortionist adhere to:
> "Follow a life that benefits my patients and avoids what might harm
> them. Give no deadly medicine, including for abortion."
The Hippocratic Oath actually says this about abortion:
"I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked, nor suggest
any such counsel; and in like manner I will not give to a woman a
pessary to produce abortion."
For those of you who aren't Scott Bradbury, and actually care about
such things, there were many ways of performing abortions in the
ancient world. Taking a pessary (a rag soaked in kerosene, or feces,
or some other irritant) and inserting it in the vagina was one of the
most dangerous. That pessary might well harm the patient, who, in case
you've forgotten, is the woman seeking the abortion.
> Abortionists when they ply their "medicine" end life NOT preserve it!
BTW, the version of the Oath you posted mentioned this as well:
"I will [...] Leave treating kidney stones to others."
So, Scott, would you say that someone who treats a kidney stone is
also not a doctor? Or are you going to be stupidly inconsistant again?
> In all honesty I'd have to say that Dr. Josef Mengele aka The Angel of
> Death was more of a doctor than any abortionist.
Of course you would, Scooter. That's because your a raving antisemite
and wish that Mengele had managed to torture more Jews to death. It's
not like your fooling anyone.
> A recipent of an
> abortionist NEVER has its life saved;
Typical Bradbury idiocy. A woman who has an abortion to end an ectopic
pregnancy or eclampsia just had her life saved.
[--Miscellaneous rantings about Jewish Socialists. Completely non-
sequitorial in every sense. IOW, typical Bradbury.--]
[1]
http://weber.u.washington.edu/~rells/workshops/effective/hippocra.txt
--< Matt Pillsbury >--< p i l l s y [at] b r o w n [dot] e d u >--
"And the devil may care, but I don't mind"
The Sisters of Mercy, "A Rock and a Hard Place"
~~End of original Pillsbury reply~~
Notice that Matt had stated:
"[--Whacked newsgroups left'n'right. a.p.l.w left in so Scott can
watch his (repeated) net.death on the abortion groups.--]"
Why did you whack the NGs Matt? You simply can't refute the painfully
obvious. I have defeated you once again. Do you wish to say now that
my sources aren't credible or plausible? Where are your sources Matt?
I did not see one link included to verify your point!
Everyone should visit this link and all links contained within:
http://www.ohiolife.org/aborters/
Doc Tavish
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"Why, then, should an unborn fetus have a special right to the use of a woman's
uterus?" Comrade Allan Sonofvitch Matthews
http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=285707390
Thomas Dehn
Huh? You attribute the US-version of
the Hippocratic Oath to
Hippocrates???
I guess nobody yet told you about Hippocrates
and the pregnant dancer on whom he
performed an abortion.
Thomas