RU-486 is gaining in popularity
BOB
Once controversial pill quietly changing abortion experience
RU-486 now used in 14 percent of U.S. procedures
By Rob Stein
THE WASHINGTON POST
January 22, 2008
WASHINGTON – Thirty-five years after the Supreme Court's landmark Roe v.
Wade decision, a pill that has largely faded from the rancorous public
debate over abortion has slowly and quietly begun to transform the
experience of ending a pregnancy in the United States.
On the market since 2000, the French abortion pill RU-486 has become an
increasingly common alternative, making abortion less clinical and more
private.
At a time when the overall number of abortions has been declining steadily,
a new survey reported that abortions using RU-486 have been rising by 22
percent a year. They now account for 14 percent of the total – and more
than one in five of abortions performed by the ninth week of pregnancy.
The pill, often called “miffy” after its chemical name mifepristone and
brand name Mifeprex, also has helped slow the decline in abortion
providers, as more physicians who previously did not perform the procedure
discreetly start to prescribe the pill. Other doctors have begun to offer
mifepristone in addition to surgical abortion.
“The impact and the promise is huge,” said Beth Jordan, medical director of
the Association of Reproductive Health Professionals. “It's going a long
way towards normalizing abortion.”
When the Food and Drug Administration approved mifepristone in 2000, some
predicted it would revolutionize the abortion experience and debate by
enabling women to get an abortion from any doctor, neutralizing one of
opponents' most potent strategies – picketing abortion clinics.
“The thinking initially was that this was going to change everything. There
was a lot of hype. That didn't pan out,” said Carole Joffe, a professor of
sociology at the University of California Davis. “But the impact has been
happening gradually as it slowly and steadily is becoming integrated into
the medical system.”
More than 840,000 U.S. women who have used mifepristone since it was
approved, according to Danco Laboratories, which sells it.
The drug ends a pregnancy by blocking the hormone progesterone. Women take
the pill in the doctor's office and then go home, where they take another
drug, misoprostol, to trigger contractions, essentially causing a
miscarriage. Women then return to the doctor within about two weeks to make
sure the process worked.
The price of the procedures varies. Standard abortions typically cost about
$400, and the pill can cost the same to about $100 more.
About 150,000 of the 1.2 million abortions in the United States in 2006
were done with medication, the Guttmacher Institute, a nonprofit
reproductive health research organization, estimated recently. More than
half of abortion providers now offer the option, a 70 percent increase from
the first half of 2001, Guttmacher said.
“Mifepristone is clearly starting to become an important part of the
abortion provision in the United States,” said Lawrence Finer, who studies
the drug at Guttmacher. “I think we'll continue to see increases.”
He noted that in some European countries, more than 60 percent of abortions
are performed with the drug.
The increase is alarming to abortion opponents, who are expecting thousands
to gather in Washington today to protest Roe v. Wade on its 35th
anniversary.
Randall O'Bannon of the National Right to Life Committee questioned the
drug's safety, citing a handful of reports of women who have died from
severe complications from bacterial infections.
Supporters say that it remains unclear whether the complications were
related to the drug, and that overall the method has been shown to be
extremely safe.
LC
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9A2D4F...@69.28.173.184...
> On the market since 2000, the French abortion pill RU-486 has become an
> increasingly common alternative, making abortion less clinical and more
> private.
That's a trend that is _really_ gonna screw up those crazy anti-choicers.
They're going to have to resort to spying on pharmacists, then following the
purchasers of RU-486 to their homes in order to do their protesting.
LC~ Won't that be fun!
"Meanwhile the cops are telling me, '.... the closer we look atthis bunch
[anti-abortion activists], the more we see single males who fit the Son of
Sam profile -- white, self- or unem-ployed, with few if any connections to
the world [who] got into these fundamentalist churches because they get a
lot of their emotional needs met there.' [Picketing clinics] provides them
with a life, a purpose -- and above all, a heap of voyeurism. It's the sex
of the lonely man."~ Patricia Windle, owner of three Florida abortion
clinics, as quoted in Rolling Stone 10/14/93 p60
Oreo (adh)
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John D. Wentzky
> news:Xns9A2D4F...@69.28.173.184...
>
>> On the market since 2000, the French abortion pill RU-486 has become an
>> increasingly common alternative, making abortion less clinical and more
>> private.
>
> That's a trend that is _really_ gonna screw up those crazy anti-choicers.
>
> They're going to have to resort to spying on pharmacists, then following
> the
> purchasers of RU-486 to their homes in order to do their protesting.
>
> LC~ Won't that be fun!
>
> "Meanwhile the cops are telling me, '.... the closer we look atthis bunch
> [anti-abortion activists], the more we see single males who fit the Son of
> Sam profile
Actually, since divorced men are included in the single men categrory it
goes to show you that all you god damned guntoting paranoid lunatic baby
killing fanatics are really exposing yourselves as the criminal traitors and
frauds and liars and paranoid delusionist unjust ingrates you really are.
Steal a wife, get hammerred, you evil dogshit criminal.
> -- white, self- or unem-ployed, with few if any connections to
> the world [who] got into these fundamentalist churches because they get a
> lot of their emotional needs met there.' [Picketing clinics] provides
> them
> with a life, a purpose -- and above all, a heap of voyeurism. It's the
> sex
> of the lonely man."~ Patricia Windle, owner of three Florida abortion
> clinics, as quoted in Rolling Stone 10/14/93 p60
Rolling Stone?
What a joke.
You drug addled party animal sexual reprobate losers have nothing more than
sex, drugs, rock 'n' roll, thievery and crimes on your resumes.
And, to think you didn't want to go to Vietnam.
Seems like you stayed home and screwed the soldier's wives in pornos, you
paranoid secretive fraudulent loser.
The law IS against you twerps.
Your fucking whores and sluts and pimped out women are another strike
against you.
John D. Wentzky
Why don't you go get some RU-486 and take about ten of them?
Huh?
WImp.
Loser.
Criminal fool.
Gwen Bennet
> "LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Why don't you, you miserable fuck of a criminal?
BOB
>
> "BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A2D4F...@69.28.173.184...
>
>> On the market since 2000, the French abortion pill RU-486 has become
>> an increasingly common alternative, making abortion less clinical and
>> more private.
>
> That's a trend that is _really_ gonna screw up those crazy
> anti-choicers.
>
Yep, ain't it grand? These kinds of abortion-choice articles make my
day. :o))
> They're going to have to resort to spying on pharmacists, then
> following the purchasers of RU-486 to their homes in order to do their
> protesting.
>
Wonder how long it will take before they start blowing-up legitimate
pharmacies and killing innocent pharmacists?
> LC~ Won't that be fun!
>
Only the fanatical anti-choice loons will think it is fun.
> "Meanwhile the cops are telling me, '.... the closer we look atthis
> bunch [anti-abortion activists], the more we see single males who fit
> the Son of Sam profile -- white, self- or unem-ployed, with few if any
> connections to the world [who] got into these fundamentalist churches
> because they get a lot of their emotional needs met there.'
> [Picketing clinics] provides them with a life, a purpose -- and above
> all, a heap of voyeurism. It's the sex of the lonely man."~ Patricia
> Windle, owner of three Florida abortion clinics, as quoted in Rolling
> Stone 10/14/93 p60
>
Lonely religious nutcases, the lot of them.
>
>
>
BOB
a45a-bdc...@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
Too bad RU-486 wasn't around when Joanny was conceived by two guys. They
would have used it for sure.
Gwen Bennet
> Gwen Bennet <bennetwitho...@gmail.com> wrote in news:19daf2a6-5081-4f84-
> a45a-bdcaab0f6...@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Jan 22, 2:59 pm, "John D. Wentzky" <wxpprofessio...@msn.com> wrote:
> >> "LC" <LC__...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:fn54v...@enews2.newsguy.com...
>
> >> Why don't you go get some RU-486 and take about ten of them?
> >> Huh?
> >> WImp.
> >> Loser.
> >> Criminal fool.
>
> > Why don't you, you miserable fuck of a criminal?
>
> Too bad RU-486 wasn't around when Joanny was conceived by two guys. They
> would have used it for sure.
Darin is just sooo...icky.
LC
Killer of his own braincells, "Oreo (adh)" <loose...@volcanomail.com> aka
"J Young" <jyoung...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Hi "J".
How does it feel to have been reduced to being an irrelevant spammer?
LC~ Of course, "irrelevant spammer" is a step up for "J Young".
"A.A. has no position on any outside issues but, ask yourself (and only
yourself) why would you want to do these other substances if your goal is to
straighten out your life p.s. I'm a former maintainance man so i'm not just
talking out my ass. good luck and God bless! ;)"
From: jdyo...@volcanomail.com (J Young), drug casuality.
Newsgroups: alt.recovery.aa
Subject: Re: methadone
Date: 12 Nov 2003 19:31:53 -0800
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LC
"John D. Wentzky" <wxpprof...@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Why don't you go get some RU-486 and take about ten of them?
Ummm...because I'm a man, and I'm not pregnant?
> Huh?
Exactly.
> WImp.
> Loser.
Projection: "A defense mechanism in which the individual attributes to
other people impulses and traits that he himself has but cannot
accept. It is especially likely to occur when the person lacks
insight into his own impulses and traits."
> Criminal fool.
Speaking of which, when's your next court appearance, John?
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>"LC" <LC_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:fn54v...@enews2.newsguy.com...
>Why don't you go get some RU-486 and take about ten of them?
>Huh?
Normal people would take the trouble to determine LC's gender before going
postal.
>WImp.
>Loser.
>Criminal fool.
Quit talking to yourself, Straitjacket Boy.
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"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
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> "John D. Wentzky" <wxpprof...@msn.com> writes:
>>"LC" <LC_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:fn54v...@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>Why don't you go get some RU-486 and take about ten of them?
>>Huh?
> Normal people
...'nuff said, PLH.
> would take the trouble to determine LC's gender before going postal.
If he weren't going postal, it wouldn't be Wentzky.
And, speaking of barking loons, are you enjoying J/IBen's return as
"Oreo" and "Auric Hellman"?
I didn't think it possible, but it appears the boy has slipped _yet another_
cog. Much to my continuing amusement, of course.
I suspect he's on the pipe again.
Pity.
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>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>news:szkwsq1...@fnord.io.com...
>> "John D. Wentzky" <wxpprof...@msn.com> writes:
>>>"LC" <LC_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:fn54v...@enews2.newsguy.com...
>>>Why don't you go get some RU-486 and take about ten of them?
>>>Huh?
>> Normal people
>...'nuff said, PLH.
True, but don't expect that flash of insight from the loon brigade.
>> would take the trouble to determine LC's gender before going postal.
>If he weren't going postal, it wouldn't be Wentzky.
>And, speaking of barking loons, are you enjoying J/IBen's return as
>"Oreo" and "Auric Hellman"?
It's more of the same, Chapter MCMLV.
>I didn't think it possible, but it appears the boy has slipped _yet another_
>cog. Much to my continuing amusement, of course.
>I suspect he's on the pipe again.
>Pity.
It's just another average day for Jerk Young.
John D. Wentzky
Do you have any experience with Squid and/or privoxy?
They work so well, just a hint to let you know about them (in case you
didn't know already (which is a bit counter to some probability measures).
Enjoy, if you feel up to it.
The Chief Instigator
>Mr. Humphrey,
I go through io.com, and I'd rather confine my pages to that server array. I
don't write image-intensive sites. If it works for you, well and good.
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inspirationem Dei interpretatae sunt Scripturae, et non esset mirabile Deum
hoc in eis operatum: quando in ea captivitate populi quae facta est a
Nabuchodonosor, corruptis scripturis et post 70 annos Judaeis descendentibus
in regionem suam, et post deinde temporibus Artaxerxis Persarum regis,
inspiravit Esdrae sacerdoti tribus Levi praeteritorum prophetarum omnes
rememorare sermones, et restituere populo eam legem quae data est per
Moysen.[114]
633. Against the story in Esdras, 2 Maccab. 2.; Josephus, Antiquities, II,
i.--Cyrus took occasion from the prophecy of Isaiah to release the people.
The Jews held their property in peace under Cyrus in Babylon; hence they
could well have the law.
Josephus, in the whole history of Esdras, does not say one word about this
restoration. 2 Kings 17:27.
634. If the story in Esdras is credible, then it must be believed that the
Scripture is Holy Scripture; for this story is based only on the authority
of those who assert that of the Seventy, which shows that the Scripture is
holy.
Therefore, if this account be true, we have what we want therein; if not, we
have it elsewhere. And thus those who would ruin the truth of our religion,
founded on Moses, establish it by the same authority by which they attack
it. So by this providence it still exists.
635. Chronology of Rabbinism. (The citations of pages are from the book
Pugio.)
Page 27. R. Hakadosch (anno 200), author of the Mischna, or vocal law, or
second law.
Commentaries on the Mischna (anno 340): The one Siphra.
Barajetot.
Talmud Hierosol.
Tosiphtot.
Bereschit Rabah, by R. Osaiah Rabah, commentary on the Mischna.
Bereschit Rabah, Bar Naconi, are subtle and pleasant discourses, historical
and theological. T
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publishes to a nation, and a book which itself creates a nation. We cannot
doubt that the book is as old as the people.
629. Josephus hides the shame of his nation.
Moses does not hide his own shame.
Quis mihi det ut omnes prophetent?112
He was weary of the multitude.
630. The sincerity of the Jews.--Maccabees, after they had no more prophets;
the Masorah, since Jesus Christ.
This book will be a testimony for you.
Defective and final letters.
Sincere against their honour, and dying for it; this has no example in the
world, and no root in nature.
631. Sincerity of the Jews.--They preserve lovingly and carefully the book
in which Moses declares that they have been all their life ungrateful to
God, and that he knows they will be still more so after his death; but that
he calls heaven and earth to witness against them and that he has taught
them enough.
He declares that God, being angry with them, shall at last scatter them
among all the nations of the earth; that as they have offe
Attila <
Jer. 7:4: "Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the Lord, the
temple of the Lord, the temple of the Lord, are these."
714. The Jews witnesses for God. Is. 43:9; 44:8. Prophecies fulfilled.--I
Kings 13:2. I Kings 22:16. Joshua 6:26. I Kings 16:34. Deut. 23.
Malachi 1:11. The sacrifice of the Jews rejected, and the sacrifice of the
heathen, (even out of Jerusalem,) and in all places.
Moses, before dying, foretold the calling of the Gentiles, Deut. 32:21. and
the reprobation of the Jews.
Moses foretold what would happen to each tribe.
Prophecy.--"Your name shall be a curse unto mine elect, and I will give them
another name."
"Make their heart fat," and how? by flattering their lust and making them
hope to satisfy it.
715. Prophecy.--Amos and Zechariah. They have sold the just one, and
therefore will not be recalled. Jesus Christ betrayed.
They shall no more remember Egypt. See Is. 43:16, 17, 18, 19. Jer. 23:6, 7.
Prophecy.--The Jews shall be scattered abroad. Is. 27:6. A new law, Jerem.
31:32.
Malachi. Grotius. The second temple glorious. Jesus Christ will come. Haggai
2:7, 8, 9, 10.
The calling of the Gentiles. Joel 2:28. Hosea 2:24. Deut. 32:21. Malachi
1:11.
716. Hosea 3.--Is. 42. 48. 44. 60. 61. last verse. "I foretold it long since
that they might know that it is I." Jaddus to Alexander.
717. Prophecies.--The promise that David will always have descendants. Jer.
13:13.
718. The eternal reign of the race of David, II Chron., by all the
prophecies, and with an oath. And it was not temporally fulfilled. Jer.
23:20.
719. We might perhaps think that, when the prophets foretold that the
sceptre should not depart from Judah until the eternal King came, they spoke
to flatter the people and that their prophecy was proved false by Herod. But
to show that this was not their meaning and that, on the contrary, they knew
well that this temporal kingdom should cease, the
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concern amongst some who before had been very loose persons. About the
same time that this appeared at Enfield, the Rev. Mr. Bull, of
Westfield, informed me, that there had been a great alteration there,
and that more had been done in one week, than in seven years before.
Something of this work likewise appeared in the first precinct in
Springfield, principally in the north and south extremes of the parish.
And in Hadley old town, there gradually appeared so much of a work of
God on souls, as at another time would have been thought worthy of much
notice. For a short time there was also a very great and general
concern, of the like nature, at Northfield. And wherever this concern
appeared, it seemed not to be in vain: but in every place God brought
saving blessings with Him, and His word attended with His Spirit (as we
have all reason to think) returned not void. It might well be said at
that time, in all parts of the county, Who are these that fly as a
cloud, and as doves to thei
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counsel that had been given: and it was immediately, and, I suppose,
almost universally, complied with; and there was a thorough reformation
of these disorders thenceforward, which has continued ever since.
Presently after this, there began to appear a remarkable religious
concern at a little village belonging to the congregation called
Pascommuck, where a few families were settled, at about three miles
distance from the main body of the town. At this place, a number of
persons seemed to be savingly wrought upon. In the April following, anno
1734, there happened a very sudden and awful death of a young man in the
bloom of his youth; who being violently seized with a pleurisy, and
taken immediately very delirious, died in about two days; which
(together with what was preached publicly on that occasion) much
affected many young people. This was followed with another death of a
young married woman, who had been considerably exercised in mind, about
the salvation of her soul, before she was ill, and was in great distress
in the beginning of her illness; but seemed to have satisfying evidences
of God's mercy to her, before her death; so that she died very full of
comfort, in a most earnest and moving manner warning and counselling
others. This seemed to contribute to render solemn the spirits of many
young persons; and there began evidently to appear more of a religious
concern on people's minds.
In the fall of the year I proposed it to the young people, that they
should agree among themselves to spend the evenings after lectures in
social religion, and to that end divide themselves into several
companies to meet in various parts of the town; which was accordingly
done, and those meetings have been since continued, and the example
imitated by elder people. This was followed with the death of an el
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and he, miserable creature, is alone.
597. Against Mahomet.--The Koran is not more of Mahomet than the Gospel is
of Saint Matthew, for it is cited by many authors from age to age. Even its
very enemies, Celsus and Porphyry, never denied it.
The Koran says Saint Matthew was an honest man. Therefore Mahomet was a
false prophet for calling honest men wicked, or for not agreeing with what
they have said of Jesus Christ.
598. It is not by that which is obscure in Mahomet, and which may be
interpreted in a mysterious sense, that I would have him judged, but by what
is clear, as his paradise and the rest. In that he is ridiculous. And since
what is clear is ridiculous, it is not right to take his obscurities for
mysteries.
It is not the same with the Scripture. I agree that there are in it
obscurities as strange as those of Mahomet; but there are admirably clear
passages, and the prophecies are manifestly fulfilled. The cases are,
therefore, not on a par. We must not confound and put on one level things
which only resemble each other in their obscurity, and not in the clearness,
which requires us to reverence the obscurities.
599. The difference between Jesus Christ and Mahomet.--Mahomet was not
foretold; Jesus Christ was foretold.
Mahomet slew; Jesus Christ caused His own to be slain.
Mahomet forbade reading; the Apostles ordered reading.
In fact, the two are so opposed that, if Mahomet took the way to succeed
from a worldly point of view, Jesus Christ, from the same point of view,
took the way to perish. And instead of concluding that, sin
LC
art couched as a lion, and as a lioness that shall be roused up.
"The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his
feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be."
727. During the life of the Messiah. Aenigmatis. Ezek. l7.
His forerunner. Malachi 3.
He will be born an infant. Is. 9.
He will be born in the village of Bethlehem. Micah 5. He will appear chiefly
in Jerusalem and will be a descendant of the family of Judah and of David.
He is to blind the learned and the wise, Is. 6, 8, 29. etc.; and to preach
the Gospel to the lowly, Is. 29; to open the eyes of the blind, give health
to the sick, and bring light to those that languish in darkness. Is. 61.
He is to show the perfect way, and be the teacher of the Gentiles. Is. 55;
43:1-7.
The prophecies are to be unintelligible to the wicked, Dan. 12; Hosea 14:10;
but they are to be intelligible to those who are well informed.
The prophecies, which represent Him as poor, represent Him as master of the
nations. Is. 52:14, etc.; 53; Zech. 9:9.
The prophecies, which foretell the time, foretell Him only as master of the
nations and suffering, and not as in the clouds nor as judge. And those,
which represent Him thus as judge and in glory, do not mention the time.
When the Messiah is spoken of as great and glorious, it is as the judge of
the world, and not its Redeemer.
He is to be the victim for the sins of the world. Is. 39:53. etc.
He is to be the precious corner-stone. Is. 28:16.
He is to be a stone of stu
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reserved them.
708. Prophecies.--The time foretold by the state of the Jewish people, by
the state of the heathen, by the state of the temple, by the number of
years.
709. One must be bold to predict the same thing in so many ways. It was
necessary that the four idolatrous or pagan monarchies, the end of the
kingdom of Judah, and the seventy weeks, should happen at the same time, and
all this before the second temple was destroyed.
710. Prophecies.--If one man alone had made a book of predictions about
Jesus Christ, as to the time and the manner, and Jesus Christ had come in
conformity to these prophecies, this fact would have infinite weight.
But there is much more here. Here is a succession of men during four
thousand years, who, consequently and without variation, come, one after
another, to foretell this same event. Here is a whole people who announce it
and who have existed for four thousand years, in order to give corporate
testimony of the assurances which they have and from which they cannot be
divert
BOB
I fear nothing; I hope for nothing. It is not so with the bishops.
Port-Royal fears, and it is bad policy to disperse them; for they will fear
no longer and will cause greater fear. I do not even fear your like
censures, if they are not founded on those of tradition. Do you censure all?
What! Even my respect? No. Say then what, or you will do nothing, if you do
not point out the evil, and why it is evil. And this is what they will have
great difficulty in doing.
Probability.--They have given a ridiculous explanation of certitude; for,
after having established that all their ways are sure, they have no longer
called that sure which leads to heaven without danger of not arriving there
by it, but that which leads there without danger of going out of that road.
921.... The saints indulge in subtleties in order to think themselves
criminals and impeach their better actions. And these indulge in subtleties
in order to excuse the most wicked.
The heathen sages erected a structure equally fine outside, but upon a bad
foundation; and the devil deceived men by this apparent resemblance based
upon the most different foundation.
Man never had so good a cause as I; and others have never furnished so good
a capture as you...
The more they point out weakness in my person, the more they authorise my
cause.
You say that I am a heretic. Is that lawful? And if you do not fear that men
do justice, do you not fear that God does justice?
You will feel the force of the truth, and you will yield to it...
There is something supernatural in such a blindness. Digna necessitas.231
Mentiris impudentissime.232
Doctrina sua noscetur vir...[233]
False piety, a double sin.
I am alone against thirty thousand. No. Protect you, the court; protect,
you, deception; let me protect the truth. It is all my strength. If I lose
it, I am undone. I shall not lack accusations, and p
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a-bed, her mother perceived that she was awake, and heard her, as though
she was weeping. She called to her, and asked her what was the matter.
She answered with a low voice, so that her mother could not hear what
she said; but thinking that it might be occasioned by some spiritual
affection, said no more to her: but perceived her to lie awake, and to
continue in the same frame, for a considerable time. The next morning
she asked her, whether she did not cry the last night. The child
answered, Yes, I did cry a little, for I was thinking about God and
Christ, and they loved me. Her mother asked her, whether to think of God
and Christ loving her made her cry? She answered, Yes, it does
sometimes.
She has often manifested a great concern for the good of others' souls:
and has been wont many times affectionately to counsel the other
children. Once, about the latter end of September, the last year, when
she and some others of the children were in a room by themselves,
husking Indian corn, the child, after a while, came out and sat by the
fire. Her mother took notice that she appeared with a more than ordinary
serious and pensive countenance; but at last she broke silence, and
said, I have been talking to Nabby and Eunice. Her mother asked her what
she had said to them. Why, said she, I told them they must pray, and
prepare to die; that they had but a little while to live in this world,
and they must be always ready.
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did you ask me to go to that plum tree? I should not have gone, if you
had not asked me. The other children did not seem to be much affected or
concerned; but there was no pacifying Phebe. Her mother told her, she
might go and ask leave, and then it would not be sin for her to eat
them; and sent one of the children to that end; and, when she returned,
her mother told her that the owner had given leave, now she might eat
them, and it would not be stealing. This stilled her a little while; but
presently she broke out again into an exceeding fit of crying. Her
mother asked her, What made her cry again? Why she cried now, since they
had asked leave? What it was that troubled her now? And asked her
several times very earnestly, before she made any answer; but at last
said, It was because, because it was sin. She continued a considerable
time crying; and said she would not go again if Eunice asked her an
hundred times; and she retained her aversion to that fruit for a
considerable time, under the remembrance of her former sin.
She sometimes appears greatly affected, and delighted with texts of
Scripture that come
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Miracles endless, false.
In order to weaken your adversaries, you disarm the whole Church.
If they say that our salvation depends upon God, they are "heretics." If
they say that they are obedient to the Pope, that is "hypocrisy." If they
are ready to subscribe to all the articles, that is not enough. If they say
that a man must not be killed for an apple, "they attack the morality of
Catholics." If miracles are done among them, it is not a sign of holiness,
and is, on the contrary a symptom of heresy.
This way in which the Church has existed is that truth has been without
dispute, or, if it has been contested, there has been the Pope, or, failing
him, there has been the Church.
850. The five propositions condemned, but no miracle; for the truth was not
attacked. But the Sorbonne... but the bull...
It is impossible that those who love God with all their heart should fail to
recognise the Church; so evident is she. It is impossible that those who do
not love God should be convinced of the Church.
Miracles have such influence that it was necessary that God should warn men
not to believe in them in opposition to Him, all clear as it is that there
is a God. Without this they would have been able to disturb men.
And thus so fa
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How unjust and unreasonable is the heart of man, which feels it disagreeable
to be obliged to do in regard to one man what in some measure it were right
to do to all men! For is it right that we should deceive men?
There are different degrees in this aversion to truth; but all may perhaps
be said to have it in some degree, because it is inseparable from self-love.
It is this false delicacy which makes those who are under the necessity of
reproving others choose so many windings and middle courses to avoid
offence. They must lessen our faults, appear to excuse them, intersperse
praises and evidence of love and esteem. Despite all this, the medicine does
not cease to be bitter to self-love. It takes as little as it can, always
with disgust, and often with a secret spite against those who administer it.
Hence it happens that, if any have some interest in being loved by us, they
are averse to render us a service which they know to be disagreeable. They
treat us as we wish to be treated. We hate the truth, and they hide it from
us. We desire flattery, and they flatter us. We like to be deceived, and
they deceive us.
So each degree of good fortune which raises us in the world removes us
farther from truth, because we are most afraid of wounding those whose
affection is most useful and whose dislike is most dangerous. A prince may
be the byword of all Europe, and he alone will know nothing of it. I am not
astonished. To tell the truth is useful to those to whom it is spoken, but
disadvantageous to those who tell it, because it makes them disliked. Now
those who live with princes love their own interests more than that of the
prince whom they serve; and so they take care not to confer on him a benefit
so as to injure themselves.
This evil is no doubt greater and more common among the higher classes; but
the lower are
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danger of such persons being given up to hardness of heart and blindness
of mind. God seems now to be hastily gathering in his elect in all parts
of the land; and probably the greater part of adult persons that ever
shall be saved, will be brought in now in a little time, and that it
will be as it was on the great out-pouring of the Spirit upon the Jews
in the apostles' days; the election will obtain, and the rest will be
blinded. If this should be the case with you, you will eternally curse
this day, and will curse the day that ever you was born, to see such a
season of the pouring out of God's Spirit, and will wish that you had
died and gone to hell before you had seen it. Now undoubtedly it is, as
it was in the days of John the Baptist, the axe is in an extraordinary
manner laid at the root of the trees, that every tree which brings not
forth good fruit, may be hewn down and cast into the fire.
Therefore, let every one that is out of Christ, now awake and fly
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resisted. Now, they had not the prophecies, but only the miracles. Therefore
the latter suffice, when the doctrine is not inconsistent with them; and
they ought to be believed.
John 7:40. Dispute among the Jews as among the Christians of to-day. Some
believed in Jesus Christ; others believed Him not, because of the prophecies
which said that He should be born in Bethlehem. They should have considered
more carefully whether He was not. For His miracles being convincing, they
should have been quite sure of these supposed contradictions of His teaching
to Scripture; and this obscurity did not excuse, but blinded them. Thus
those who refuse to believe in the miracles in the present day on account of
a supposed contradiction, which is unreal, are not excused.
The Pharisees said to the people, who believed in Him, because of His
miracles: "This people who knoweth not the law are cursed. But have any of
the rulers or of the Pharisees believed in him? For we know that out of
Galilee ariseth no prophet." Nicodemus answered: "Doth our law judge any man
before it hear him, and specially such a man who works such miracles"?
830. The prophecies were ambiguous; they are no longer so.
831. The five propositions were ambiguous; they are no longer so.
832. Miracles are no longer necessary, because we have had them already. But
when tradition is no longer minded; when the Pope alone is offered to us;
when he has been imposed upon; and when the true source of truth, which is
tradition, is thus excluded; and the Pope, who is its guardian, is biased;
the truth is no longer free to appear. Then, as men speak no longer of
truth, truth itself must speak to men. This is what happened in the time of
Arius. (Miracles under Diocletian and under Ar
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reached the most considerable families and persons, to all appearance,
as much as others. In former stirrings of this nature, the bulk of the
young people have been greatly affected; but old men and little children
have been so now. Many of the last have, of their own accord, formed
themselves into religious societies in different parts of the town. A
loose careless person could scarcely be found in the whole neighborhood;
and if there was any one that seemed to remain senseless or unconcerned,
it would be spoken of as a strange thing.
This dispensation has also appeared very extraordinary in the numbers of
those on whom we have reason to hope it has had a saving effect. We have
about six hundred and twenty communicants, which include almost all our
adult persons. The church was very large before; but persons never
thronged into it as they did in the late extraordinary time.-Our
sacraments are eight weeks asunder, and I received into our communion
about a hundred before one sacrament, fourscore of them at one time,
whose appearance, when they presented themselves together to m
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of such a nature that they can be said to be absolutely convincing. But they
are also of such a kind that it cannot be said that it is unreasonable to
believe them. Thus there is both evidence and obscurity to enlighten some
and confuse others. But the evidence is such that it surpasses, or at least
equals, the evidence to the contrary; so that it is not reason which can
determine men not to follow it, and thus it can only be lust or malice of
heart. And by this means there is sufficient evidence to condemn, and
insufficient to convince; so that it appears in those who follow it that it
is grace, and not reason, which makes them follow it; and in those who shun
it, that it is lust, not reason, which makes them shun it.
Vere discipuli, vere Israelita, vere liberi, vere cibus.100
565. Recognise, then, the truth of religion in the very obscurity of
religion, in the little light we have of it, and in the indifference which
we have to knowing it.
566. We understand nothing of the works of God, if we do not take as a
principle that He has willed to blind some and enlighten others.
567. The two contrary reasons. We must begin with that; without that we
understand nothing, and all is heretical; and we must even add at the end of
each truth that the opposite truth is to be remembered.
568. Objection. The Scripture is plainly full of matters not dictated by the
Holy Spirit. Answer. Then they do not harm faith. Objection. But the Church
has decided that all is of the Holy Spirit. Answer. I answer two things:
first, the Church has not so decided; secondly, if she should so decide, it
could be maintained.
Do you think that the prophecies cited in the Gospel are related to make you
believe? No, it is to keep you from believing.
569. Canonical.--The heretical books in the beginning of the Church serve to
prove the canonical.
570. To the chapter on the Fundamentals must be added that on Typology
touching the reason of type
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We must see if this fine philosophy has gained nothing certain from so long
and so intent study; perhaps at least the soul will know itself. Let us hear
the rulers of the world on this subject. What have they thought of her
substance? 394.[10] Have they been more fortunate in locating her? 395. What
have they found out about her origin, duration, and departure? Harum
sententiarum, 399.[11]
Is, then, the soul too noble a subject for their feeble lights? Let us,
then, abase her to matter and see if she knows whereof is made the very body
which she animates and those others which she contemplates and moves at her
will. What have those great dogmatists, who are ignorant of nothing, known
of this matter? 393.[12]
This would doubtless suffice, if Reason were reasonable. She is reasonable
enough to admit that she has been unable to find anything durable, but she
does not yet despair of reaching it; she is as ardent as ever in this
search, and is confident she has within her the necessary powers for this
conquest. We must therefore conclude, and, after having examined her powers
in their effects, observe them in themselves, and see if she has a nature
and a grasp capable of laying hold of the truth.
74. A letter On the Foolishness of Human Knowledge and Philosophy.
This letter before Diversion.
Felix qui potuit... Nihil admirari.
280 kinds of sovereign good in Montaigne.
75. Part I, 1, 2, c. 1, section 4.[13]
Probability.--It will not be difficult to put the case a stage lower, and
make it appear ridiculous. To begin at the very beginning. What is more
absurd than to say that lifeless bodies have passions, fears, hatreds--that
insensible bodies, lifeless and incapable of life, have passions which
presuppose at
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would often say these words, God is my friend! And once, looking upon
her sister with a smile, said, O sister, How good it is! How sweet and
comfortable it is to consider, and think of heavenly things! and used
this argument to persuade her sister to be much in such meditations.
She expressed, on her death-bed, an exceeding longing, both for persons
in a natural state, that they might be converted, and for the godly,
that they might see and know more of God. And when those who looked on
themselves as in a Christless state came to see her, she would be
greatly moved with compassionate affection. One in particular, who
seemed to be in great distress about the state of her soul, and had come
to see her from time to time, she desired her sister to persuade not to
come any more, because the sight of her so wrought on her compassions,
that it overcame her nature. The same week that she died, when she was
in distressing circumstances as to her body, some of her neighbors who
came to see her, asked if she was willing to die! She replied, that she
was quite willing either to live or die; she was willing to be in pain;
she was willing to be so always as she was then, if that was the will of
God. She willed what God willed. They asked her whether she was willing
to die that night. She answered, Yes, if it be God's will. And seemed to
speak all with that perfect composure of spirit,
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and the truth of the Messiah has been recognised by the religion, which was
the type of it.
Among the Jews the truth was only typified; in heaven it is revealed.
In the Church it is hidden and recognised by its resemblance to the type.
The type has been made according to the truth, and the truth has been
recognised according to the type.
Saint Paul says himself that people will forbid to marry, and he himself
speaks of it to the Corinthians in a way which is a snare. For if a prophet
had said the one, and Saint Paul had then said the other, he would have been
accused.
674. Typical.--"Do all things according to the pattern which has been shown
thee on the mount." On which Saint Paul says that the Jews have shadowed
forth heavenly things.
675.... And yet this Covenant, made to blind some and enlighten others,
indicated in those very persons, whom it blinded, the truth which should be
recognised by others. For the visible blessings which they received from God
were so great and so divine that He indeed appeared able to give them those
that are invisible and a Messiah.
For nature is an image of Grace, and visible miracles are images of the
invisible. Ut sciatis... tibi dico: S