Now it's MURDER!
RAT Patrol
torturing and murdering babies that had been partially born and
struggled for their first breath only to feel the agony of a blade being
shoved into their brains.
Praise God, The Supreme Court and those that fought to choose life over
infanticide. To prison for murder with those doctors that disobey this
law!
Maybe now they will try contraception rather than murder. That’s
right…MURDER as of today that’s exactly what it is.
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Ronald 'More-More' Moshki
> Yesterday the USSC ripped the heart of the baby killers that had been
> torturing and murdering babies that had been partially born and
> struggled for their first breath only to feel the agony of a blade being
> shoved into their brains.
>
> Praise God, The Supreme Court and those that fought to choose life over
> infanticide. To prison for murder with those doctors that disobey this
> law!
>
> Maybe now they will try contraception rather than murder. That's
>
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The "law" has always been what a dress-wearing judge
says it is, not what is objectively.
Paul Anderson
>Yesterday the USSC ripped the heart of the baby killers that had been
>torturing and murdering babies that had been partially born and
>struggled for their first breath only to feel the agony of a blade being
>shoved into their brains.
>
>Praise God, The Supreme Court and those that fought to choose life over
>infanticide. To prison for murder with those doctors that disobey this
>law!
>
>Maybe now they will try contraception rather than murder. That’s
>right…MURDER as of today that’s exactly what it is.
STUPID! Murder is not punished by a fine and/or upto two years in
the slammer.
Li...@justice.tv
> Maybe now they will try contraception rather than murder. That?s
> right?MURDER as of today that?s exactly what it is.
But contraception IS murder!
elizabeth
> Yesterday the USSC ripped the heart of the baby killers that had been
> torturing and murdering babies that had been partially born and
> struggled for their first breath only to feel the agony of a blade being
> shoved into their brains.
Are you aware you are Bearing False Witness?
Abortion is not, nor has it ever been, murder. A fetus is not a baby,
any more than you are a corpse. It will become a a baby if it is born
alive, and not all fetuses are, after all.
And if fetuses feel such agony, then shouldn't we force all women to
get C-Sections, since birth itself must be torturous?
The process involves the skull partially collapsing, the body twisted,
crushed, and sometimes stuck in what must feel like a vise.
> Praise God, The Supreme Court and those that fought to choose life over
> infanticide. To prison for murder with those doctors that disobey this
> law!
The bible is actually proabortion.
You are bearing false witness about gog.
> Maybe now they will try contraception rather than murder. That's
> right...MURDER as of today that's exactly what it is.
>
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yeshuwa_i...@yahoo.com
SIX SIX SIX MYTH = 666 in multiples of 3 or Basis 3
BIRTH CONTROL PILLS = 666 in multiples of 3 or Basis 3
FAST FOOD RESTURANT = 666 in multiples of 3 or Basis 3
SATAN LOVES ORAL SEX = 666 in multiples of 3 or Basis 3
SATAN LOVES THE WARS = 666 in multiples of 3 or Basis 3
GEORGE BUSH LOVES WAR = 666 in multiples of 3 or Basis 3
SATAN IN THE COMPUTER = 666 in multiples of 3 or Basis 3
A=3 B=6 C=9 D=12 E=15 and so on all the way to Z.
SATAN IS THE COMPUTER = 777 in multiples of 3 reverse order of Basis
3
reverse order
TECHNOLOGY OF SATAN = 777 in multiples of 3 reverse order of Basis 3
reverse order
Z=3 Y=6 X=9 W=12 V=15 and so on all the way to A backward.
THE DIESEL ENGINE = 666 in Basis 36 or 6X6=36
A=36 B=37 C=38 D=39 E=40 and so on all the way to Z.
Verify in the calculator on the site below.
http://www.666myth.com
Verify in the ALPHANUMERIC 666 CALCULATORS.
I hope George will seek diplomacy instead of War.
yeshuwa_i...@yahoo.com
> On Apr 18, 7:55 am, RAT Patrol <R...@80.com> wrote:
>
> > Yesterday the USSC ripped the heart of the baby killers that had been
> > torturing and murdering babies that had been partially born and
> > struggled for their first breath only to feel the agony of a blade being
> > shoved into their brains.
>
> Are you aware you are Bearing False Witness?
> Abortion is not, nor has it ever been, murder. A fetus is not a baby,
> any more than you are a corpse. It will become a a baby if it is born
> alive, and not all fetuses are, after all.
In the Holy Scriptures that can be found Online at www.watchtower.org
you will learn that in the Old Testiment if someone caused a women to
loose her baby that person was to be stoned to death. The Hebrews in
the Old Testiment were punished by YEHOVAH GOD when they started
sacrificing babies to BAAL MOLOCH or MOLECH practicing the ways of the
deprived pagans around them.
>
> And if fetuses feel such agony, then shouldn't we force all women to
> get C-Sections, since birth itself must be torturous?
> The process involves the skull partially collapsing, the body twisted,
> crushed, and sometimes stuck in what must feel like a vise.
>
> > Praise God, The Supreme Court and those that fought to choose life over
> > infanticide. To prison for murder with those doctors that disobey this
> > law!
>
> The bible is actually proabortion.
> You are bearing false witness about gog.
That is not true. Go to www.watchtower.org and do a search on Abortion
for the truth. I noticed that you spelled "GOD" as "GOG". Probably not
deliberately. In Revelation it says that the followers of GOG or MAGOG
would surround the camps of the Holy Ones YEHOVAH GOD'S PEOPLE. Read
Revelation. The fact that you made a typo spelling GOD as GOG shows
that you follow the serpent Satan the Great Dragon in Revelation. The
spirit of Satan is operating through you and you think you are praying
to "GOD" do you? You are not praying to the TRUE GOD YEHOVAH of the
Bible but to another god who is identified in the Holy Scriptures as
SATAN THE DEVIL and GOG OF MAGOG or the GOD OF MAGOG. GOG IS SATAN and
MAGOG is his Earthly followers. Read the Holy Scriptures online at
www.watchtower.org .....
SATAN LOVES ABORTION = 666 in multiples of 3 or Basis 3
INFANTICIDAL = 666 in multiples of 3 reverse order of Basis 3 reverse
order
ABORTIVE SURGEONS = 666 in multiples of 3 or Basis 3
It does not matter what you have done you can be forgiven. Even if you
have committed infanticide of murder you can be forgiven before it is
too late. Even abortion doctors can be forgiven.
This prayer below must be said with a humble heart and heart felt
tears reflecting a true repentent attitude.
YESHUWA please give this message to YEHOVAH because I
know that nobody gets to the Father YEHOVAH except through you. Dear
YEHOVAH GOD ELOHIM heavenly Father All Powerful One who created all
things. Please hear my prayer. I accept the sacrifice of your male
offspring YEHOSHUWAH (YESHUWA) for forgiveness of my sins. Please
forgive me of all the bad things I have done in my life. Please fill
me with Holy Breath in the same manner as John the Baptist and all the
prophets of old. Please give me Holy Breath of YEHOVAH to lead me in
all I do. Please make me do your will so I can endure to the end so I
can be saved. I know I have free will but I use my free will to give
you permission to make me do your will because I want to live forever.
I want your loving disipline because you are my daddy. Please lift my
blinders so that I am not blinded by Satan the Devil in anyway. Please
lead me to the truth in all things. Please give me true wisdom, true
understanding and true knowledge. Please make me as wise and caucious
as a serpent and as innocent and harmless as a dove so that I will be
protected from wicked wolf like people who want to harm me because I
want to be a Follower of the Way to salvation and metphorically be a
sheep who obey's my Master YEHOVAH GOD ELOHIM because you are my DADDY
and I love you very much and I know that you know what is best for me
for my own protection and well being. I call no man my Father because
only you are my Father who is exaulted on high. I know that in the
last days there will be many lying signs so if I should see fire fall
from the sky I know it is not you but strategic defence weapons in
orbit created by the department of defence of the United States
Government. Please remove all the defilement from my body. Please give
me a pure heart and a pure mind. Please rewrite my heart and mind so
that I love you compleately. Please may your Holy Name YEHOVAH be
viewed as Holy before everyone. Please may your will be done on Earth
as it is in your dwelling place. Please protect me from Satan and his
demons and those who serve them so that they can not cause me harm or
trouble for either me or my family. Please guide me to the truth in
all things. I know dear Father YEHOVAH that if I should ever hear a
voice from beyond identify itself as "God" it is not you and I should
not listen to it because Satan and the Demons pretend to be God. Only
if the voice from beyond Identified itself as YESHUWA or YEHOVAH would
I listen to it. Again please forgive me of all my past wrongdoings
because I accept the sacrifice of your Male Offspring YESHUWA. (Be
specific about the bad things you have done here.) Please give me
faith beyond faith. Please make me righteousness but not self
righteous. Please make me humble Daddy YEHOVAH. Please make me speak
the truth always. Please lead me to salvation. Please give me the
fruitages of he spirit. PEACE, JOY, LOVE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS,
MILDNESS, SELFCONTROL, PATIENCE. Please give me strength to endure any
suffering that may come my way. Please remove all the defilement,
poisons, chemicals and infectious matter from my body. I love you dear
Father YEHOVAH. Again please make me do your will because I want to
live forever in a paradise of happiness. I pray these things through
the name of your First Born Son YESHUWA who remained faithful to you
even unto death so I can be forgiven for my the bad and evil things I
have done in my life so that I can be saved when I endure to the end.
Amen.
You can repent! I have! http://www.watchtower.org
Rob. O'Connor
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>
> In the Holy Scriptures that can be found Online at www.watchtower.org
> you will learn that in the Old Testiment if someone caused a women to
snip........ The Watchtower Society is a dangerous cult.
Gramps
"elizabeth" <efra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The Founding Fathers had it right.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not born)
equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Gramps
james g. keegan jr.
news:LJ-dneOrsqx5Z-3V...@earthlink.com:
> The Founding Fathers had it right.
> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not
> born) equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
> unalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit
> of Happiness.
so literal man, you're now arguing that women are breeding stock since
they are not "men."
--
"You tried to steal the identity of a James G. Keegan Jr. who did in
fact author a book, and you're trying to convince people that you are
the same person." -- corrupt prison clerk heishman lying as "Osprey"
in an effort to cover-up his earlier lie that i was not an author
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Ray Fischer
>The Founding Fathers had it right.
White men had the right to rule over everybody else.
>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not born)
Same thing.
>equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
>Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
LIBERTY.
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rfis...@sonic.net
elizabeth
> "elizabeth" <efran...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1177471756....@b40g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 18, 7:55 am, RAT Patrol <R...@80.com> wrote:
> >> Yesterday the USSC ripped the heart of the baby killers that had been
> >> torturing and murdering babies that had been partially born and
> >> struggled for their first breath only to feel the agony of a blade being
> >> shoved into their brains.
>
> > Are you aware you are Bearing False Witness?
> > Abortion is not, nor has it ever been, murder. A fetus is not a baby,
> > any more than you are a corpse. It will become a a baby if it is born
> > alive, and not all fetuses are, after all.
>
> > And if fetuses feel such agony, then shouldn't we force all women to
> > get C-Sections, since birth itself must be torturous?
> > The process involves the skull partially collapsing, the body twisted,
> > crushed, and sometimes stuck in what must feel like a vise.
>
> >> Praise God, The Supreme Court and those that fought to choose life over
> >> infanticide. To prison for murder with those doctors that disobey this
> >> law!
>
> > The bible is actually proabortion.
> > You are bearing false witness about gog.
>
> >> Maybe now they will try contraception rather than murder. That's
> >> right...MURDER as of today that's exactly what it is.
>
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> The Founding Fathers had it right.
> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not born)
> equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
> Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Hmmm .. . and ABORTION WAS LEGAL when the FFs were writing the DoI,
Constitution, and BoR . .. abortion wasn't made illegal until the mid
to late 1800s in America. About the same time that Pius the Paranoid
Nutbar declared himself infallible and decided that abortion was bad,
even thought the bible was proabortion (numbers 5:11-31)
Gramps
"james g. keegan jr." <jgke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AD3863B3FD59...@130.133.1.4...
> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:LJ-dneOrsqx5Z-3V...@earthlink.com:
>
>> The Founding Fathers had it right.
>> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not
>> born) equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
>> unalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit
>> of Happiness.
>
>
> so literal man, you're now arguing that women are breeding stock since
> they are not "men."
>
How do you figure that? Women are free to choose to bread, or not.
Gramps
Gramps
"elizabeth" <efra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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They had it right in the DOI. They didn't follow through in the Constitution
or BOR. I'm not sure they ever thought of abortion. were there abortions
going on at the time? I'm not familiar with that part of history. The Bible
is pro-abortion that's news to me.
Gramps
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Immaterial they got it right. You have to have life in order to have
liberty.
Gramps
>
Ray Fischer
>>>The Founding Fathers had it right.
>>
>> White men had the right to rule over everybody else.
>>
>>>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not
>>>born)
>>
>> Same thing.
>>
>>>equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
>>>Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
>>
>> LIBERTY.
>
>Immaterial they got it right. You have to have life in order to have
>liberty.
Therefore it's alright to enslave people so long as you don't kill
them?
And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because they
prevent life?
The rights are not in order. Liberty is an inalienable right which you
do not get to take away just because you hate the idea of women having
sex without you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>> Constitution, and BoR . .. abortion wasn't made illegal until the mid
>> to late 1800s in America. About the same time that Pius the Paranoid
>> Nutbar declared himself infallible and decided that abortion was bad,
>> even thought the bible was proabortion (numbers 5:11-31)
>
>They had it right in the DOI.
Liberty is an inalienable right.
> They didn't follow through in the Constitution
>or BOR.
Then your opinion counts for nothing.
> I'm not sure they ever thought of abortion.
I'm sure you're wrong.
> were there abortions
>going on at the time?
Abortions are mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible.
> I'm not familiar with that part of history.
Then you're hardly qualified to insist that women suffer and die for
what you want.
> The Bible
>is pro-abortion that's news to me.
There's a great deal that you do not know. Numbers 5.
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rfis...@sonic.net
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>The Founding Fathers had it right.
>>>
>>> White men had the right to rule over everybody else.
>>>
>>>>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not
>>>>born)
>>>
>>> Same thing.
>>>
>>>>equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
>>>>Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
>>>
>>> LIBERTY.
>>
>>Immaterial they got it right. You have to have life in order to have
>>liberty.
>
> Therefore it's alright to enslave people so long as you don't kill
> them?
>
I don't follow your argument. If your mother had aborted you, you would not
have had the opportunity to enjoy liberty.
> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because they
> prevent life?
>
Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
> The rights are not in order.
See above.
Liberty is an inalienable right which you
> do not get to take away just because you hate the idea of women having
> sex without you.
>
I don't want to take away anyone's right to liberty. I just want to see that
anyone that is created gets their rights.
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>"elizabeth" <efra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> Hmmm .. . and ABORTION WAS LEGAL when the FFs were writing the DoI,
>>> Constitution, and BoR . .. abortion wasn't made illegal until the mid
>>> to late 1800s in America. About the same time that Pius the Paranoid
>>> Nutbar declared himself infallible and decided that abortion was bad,
>>> even thought the bible was proabortion (numbers 5:11-31)
>>
>>They had it right in the DOI.
>
> Liberty is an inalienable right.
>
>> They didn't follow through in the Constitution
>>or BOR.
>
> Then your opinion counts for nothing.
>
>> I'm not sure they ever thought of abortion.
>
> I'm sure you're wrong.
>
>> were there abortions
>>going on at the time?
>
> Abortions are mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible.
>
Where?
>> I'm not familiar with that part of history.
>
> Then you're hardly qualified to insist that women suffer and die for
> what you want.
>
Where do I look To find out that abortions were taking place in the 1770s?
>> The Bible
>>is pro-abortion that's news to me.
>
> There's a great deal that you do not know. Numbers 5.
>
? you'll have to point to were it says anything about abortion. If it does
and you believe we should follow the Bible, how about Leviticus 20.
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Ray Fischer
>
>
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>news:487314d9$0$17221$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>The Founding Fathers had it right.
>>>>
>>>> White men had the right to rule over everybody else.
>>>>
>>>>>We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not
>>>>>born)
>>>>
>>>> Same thing.
>>>>
>>>>>equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable
>>>>>Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
>>>>
>>>> LIBERTY.
>>>
>>>Immaterial they got it right. You have to have life in order to have
>>>liberty.
>>
>> Therefore it's alright to enslave people so long as you don't kill
>> them?
>
>I don't follow your argument.
You say that liberty is immaterial.
> If your mother had aborted you, you would not
>have had the opportunity to enjoy liberty.
And you murdered several children by refusing to have sex and/or by
using contraception.
>> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because they
>> prevent life?
>
>Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
Why don't you answer the question?
>> The rights are not in order.
>
>See above.
It's still crap.
>> Liberty is an inalienable right which you
>> do not get to take away just because you hate the idea of women having
>> sex without you.
>
>I don't want to take away anyone's right to liberty.
Now you're lying outright.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>>>"elizabeth" <efra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> Hmmm .. . and ABORTION WAS LEGAL when the FFs were writing the DoI,
>>>> Constitution, and BoR . .. abortion wasn't made illegal until the mid
>>>> to late 1800s in America. About the same time that Pius the Paranoid
>>>> Nutbar declared himself infallible and decided that abortion was bad,
>>>> even thought the bible was proabortion (numbers 5:11-31)
>>>
>>>They had it right in the DOI.
>>
>> Liberty is an inalienable right.
>>
>>> They didn't follow through in the Constitution
>>>or BOR.
>>
>> Then your opinion counts for nothing.
>>
>>> I'm not sure they ever thought of abortion.
>>
>> I'm sure you're wrong.
>>
>>> were there abortions
>>>going on at the time?
>>
>> Abortions are mentioned in the Old Testament of the Bible.
>
>Where?
Numbers 5 describes the justification for a forced abortion.
>>> I'm not familiar with that part of history.
>>
>> Then you're hardly qualified to insist that women suffer and die for
>> what you want.
>
>Where do I look To find out that abortions were taking place in the 1770s?
If they were happening 3000 years ago, don't you figure that they were
happening in the 1770s?
>>> The Bible
>>>is pro-abortion that's news to me.
>>
>> There's a great deal that you do not know. Numbers 5.
>
>? you'll have to point to were it says anything about abortion.
Again, Numbers 5.
> If it does
>and you believe we should follow the Bible, how about Leviticus 20.
Leviticus doesn't apply, which you would know if you'd actually read
it. Look at the last sentence.
And, by the way, according to Leviticus eating shellfish is an "abomination".
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rfis...@sonic.net
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>news:487314d9$0$17221$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>
> And you murdered several children by refusing to have sex and/or by
> using contraception.
>
>>> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because they
>>> prevent life?
>>
>>Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
>
> Why don't you answer the question?
>
Your reasoning is screwy. Not creating life is not murder.
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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I read it in 2 versions and still see no mention of abortion.
>> If it does
>>and you believe we should follow the Bible, how about Leviticus 20.
>
> Leviticus doesn't apply, which you would know if you'd actually read
> it. Look at the last sentence.
>
Are you sure your not of one of the lost tribes.
> And, by the way, according to Leviticus eating shellfish is an
> "abomination".
>
That's fine by me.
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
BOB
mdnVmpR7nnZunVn...@earthlink.com:
No, yours is.
> Not creating life is not murder.
>
Neither is abortion.
>>
>> --
>> Ray Fischer
>> rfis...@sonic.net
>>
BOB
news:qOGdnWafj_p0YunV...@earthlink.com:
Senseless response.
>> And, by the way, according to Leviticus eating shellfish is an
>> "abomination".
>>
>
> That's fine by me.
>
That's because of your cult mentality.
>> --
>> Ray Fischer
>> rfis...@sonic.net
>>
Ray Fischer
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because they
>>>> prevent life?
>>>
>>>Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
>>
>> Why don't you answer the question?
>
>Your reasoning is screwy. Not creating life is not murder.
Good to see you come over to the pro-choice position.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
No, you see no use of the WORD abortion and you're not smart enough to
realize that taking a drug to induce miscarriage is, in fact, an
abortion.
>>> If it does
>>>and you believe we should follow the Bible, how about Leviticus 20.
>>
>> Leviticus doesn't apply, which you would know if you'd actually read
>> it. Look at the last sentence.
>
>Are you sure your not of one of the lost tribes.
Yes.
>> And, by the way, according to Leviticus eating shellfish is an
>> "abomination".
>
>That's fine by me.
Which means that you're no more moral than a homosexual.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9AD698...@69.28.173.184...
You may be one of the children of Israel and not know it.
>>> And, by the way, according to Leviticus eating shellfish is an
>>> "abomination".
>>>
>>
>> That's fine by me.
>>
> That's because of your cult mentality.
>
Cult? Doesn't it take more than one to make a cult?
Gramps
>>> --
>>> Ray Fischer
>>> rfis...@sonic.net
>>>
>
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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That's the most ludicrous thing you have come up with so far.
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Well not completely. I still believe abortion is murder.
BOB
news:BoOdnX6ZoP6DzOvV...@earthlink.com:
You may be getting senile and not know it.
>>>> And, by the way, according to Leviticus eating shellfish is an
>>>> "abomination".
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's fine by me.
>>>
>> That's because of your cult mentality.
>>
>
> Cult? Doesn't it take more than one to make a cult?
>
cult (k¾lt) n.
1.a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or
false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under
the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. b. The followers of
such a religion or sect.
2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious ceremony
and ritual.
4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its originator to
have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a particular disease.
5.a. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to or veneration for a person,
principle, or thing. b. The object of such devotion.
6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually artistic or
intellectual interest.
--attributive. Often used to modify another noun.
--cul“tic or cult“ish adj.
--cult“ism n.
--cult“ist n.
BOB
news:TrWdnZAHiqPyzuvV...@earthlink.com:
You may be able to attribute that belief to senility since everyone with
an ounce of common sense knows it isn't.
james g. keegan jr.
news:5OWdncd6CqBA0O_V...@earthlink.com:
> "james g. keegan jr." <jgke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9AD3863B3FD59...@130.133.1.4...
>> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:LJ-dneOrsqx5Z-3V...@earthlink.com:
>>
>>> The Founding Fathers had it right.
>>> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not
>>> born) equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
>>> unalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit
>>> of Happiness.
>>
>>
>> so literal man, you're now arguing that women are breeding stock since
>> they are not "men."
>>
>
> How do you figure that? Women are free to choose to bread, or not.
>
what kind of "bread" ar eyou referring to gramps?
if you meant "breed," then i figure what i said based entirely on your
inane comment included directly above my response.
Ray Fischer
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because they
>>>>>> prevent life?
>>>>>
>>>>>Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you answer the question?
>>>
>>>Your reasoning is screwy. Not creating life is not murder.
>>
>> Good to see you come over to the pro-choice position.
>
>Well not completely. I still believe abortion is murder.
Because you're insane? Or because you're an asshole who doesn't care
about the truth?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> And, by the way, according to Leviticus eating shellfish is an
>>>> "abomination".
>>>
>>>That's fine by me.
>>
>> Which means that you're no more moral than a homosexual.
>
>That's the most ludicrous thing you have come up with so far.
So you're just another pro-liar hypocrite who only cares about the
Bible as a weapon. You ignore anything which might condemn you and
use it only to attack other people.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Robert
wrote:
>
>
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>news:48759e31$0$17228$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because they
>>>>>> prevent life?
>>>>>
>>>>>Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you answer the question?
>>>
>>>Your reasoning is screwy. Not creating life is not murder.
>>
>> Good to see you come over to the pro-choice position.
>>
>
>Well not completely. I still believe abortion is murder.
>
>Gramps
>
Some people believe that Alien life forms live among us. Belief is not
proof of any thing.
>> --
>> Ray Fischer
>> rfis...@sonic.net
>>
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Gramps
"james g. keegan jr." <jgke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AD7E8FAF6C5C...@130.133.1.4...
> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:5OWdncd6CqBA0O_V...@earthlink.com:
>
>> "james g. keegan jr." <jgke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9AD3863B3FD59...@130.133.1.4...
>>> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:LJ-dneOrsqx5Z-3V...@earthlink.com:
>>>
>>>> The Founding Fathers had it right.
>>>> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created (not
>>>> born) equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain
>>>> unalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and the pursuit
>>>> of Happiness.
>>>
>>>
>>> so literal man, you're now arguing that women are breeding stock since
>>> they are not "men."
>>>
>>
>> How do you figure that? Women are free to choose to bread, or not.
>>
>
>
> what kind of "bread" ar eyou referring to gramps?
>
> if you meant "breed," then i figure what i said based entirely on your
> inane comment included directly above my response.
>
Yes, I meant breed. Your response was inane.
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9AD7A0...@69.28.173.184...
Murder, act of deliberate killing. Seems to fit abortion to me.
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Speaking of Aholes I think I'm replying to one.
Gramps
"Robert" <rob...@netportusa.com> wrote in message
news:v3ld749utfsehookk...@4ax.com...
You don't believe Alien life forms live among us?
Gramps
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9AD7A0...@69.28.173.184...
Yes I know what a cult is. I just wondered if you did. As you just pointed
out' it takes more than one to make a cult.
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:4876cf65$0$17197$742e...@news.sonic.net...
Are you high on something?
BOB
news:PO-dnd-s1-oFVubV...@earthlink.com:
Show us the similarity, Grumps:
mur·der (mûr“d…r) n.
The unlawful killing of one human being by another, especially with
premeditated malice.
a·bor·tion (…-bôr“sh…n) n.
1. Induced termination of pregnancy and expulsion of an embryo or fetus
that is incapable of survival.
2. A miscarriage.
3. Cessation of normal growth, especially of an organ or other body part,
prior to full development or maturation.
4. An aborted organism.
5. Something malformed or incompletely developed; a monstrosity.
BOB
news:6aGdnRLQ2dGWU-bV...@earthlink.com:
>> cult (kžlt) n.
>> 1.a. A religion or religious sect generally considered to be
>> extremist or false, with its followers often living in an
>> unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian,
>> charismatic leader. b. The followers of such a religion or sect.
>> 2. A system or community of religious worship and ritual.
>> 3. The formal means of expressing religious reverence; religious
>> ceremony and ritual.
>> 4. A usually nonscientific method or regimen claimed by its
>> originator to have exclusive or exceptional power in curing a
>> particular disease. 5.a. Obsessive, especially faddish, devotion to
>> or veneration for a person,
>> principle, or thing. b. The object of such devotion.
>> 6. An exclusive group of persons sharing an esoteric, usually
>> artistic or intellectual interest.
>> --attributive. Often used to modify another noun.
>> --cul"tic or cult"ish adj.
>> --cult"ism n.
>> --cult"ist n.
>>
>>
>
> Yes I know what a cult is. I
You should Grumps, you belong to one.
> just wondered if you did.
Yep, I do.
> As you just
> pointed out' it takes more than one to make a cult.
>
You have plenty of loonybins for company Grumps.
james g. keegan jr.
news:O6udnfrOGeeqV-bV...@earthlink.com:
>
>
> "james g. keegan jr." <jgke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9AD7E8FAF6C5C...@130.133.1.4...
>> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:5OWdncd6CqBA0O_V...@earthlink.com:
>>
>>> "james g. keegan jr." <jgke...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9AD3863B3FD59...@130.133.1.4...
>>>> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:LJ-dneOrsqx5Z-3V...@earthlink.com:
>>>>
>>>>> The Founding Fathers had it right.
>>>>> We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created
>>>>> (not born) equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with
>>>>> certain unalienable Rights, that among these are LIFE, Liberty and
>>>>> the pursuit of Happiness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so literal man, you're now arguing that women are breeding stock
>>>> since they are not "men."
>>>>
>>>
>>> How do you figure that? Women are free to choose to bread, or not.
>>>
>>
>>
>> what kind of "bread" ar eyou referring to gramps?
>>
>> if you meant "breed," then i figure what i said based entirely on
>> your inane comment included directly above my response.
>
> Yes, I meant breed. Your response was inane.
other crazed neocons hav saidd similar things.
--
"Heishman, you are a sick, sick sonofabitch and beneath contempt.
Fuck off and die. Soonest.
Spartakus <spar...@my-deja.com>
article <1180495817.1...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
Ray Fischer
>"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9AD7A0...@69.28.173.184...
>> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because
>> they
>>>>>>>> prevent life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why don't you answer the question?
>>>>>
>>>>>Your reasoning is screwy. Not creating life is not murder.
>>>>
>>>> Good to see you come over to the pro-choice position.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well not completely. I still believe abortion is murder.
>>>
>> You may be able to attribute that belief to senility since everyone with
>> an ounce of common sense knows it isn't.
>>
>
>Murder, act of deliberate killing.
Therefore YOU are a murderer.
So why should we care about the whinings of a murderer like you?
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because they
>>>>>>>> prevent life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why don't you answer the question?
>>>>>
>>>>>Your reasoning is screwy. Not creating life is not murder.
>>>>
>>>> Good to see you come over to the pro-choice position.
>>>
>>>Well not completely. I still believe abortion is murder.
>>
>> Because you're insane? Or because you're an asshole who doesn't care
>> about the truth?
>
>Speaking of Aholes I think I'm replying to one.
No, you're replying to me.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>
>>>>>> And, by the way, according to Leviticus eating shellfish is an
>>>>>> "abomination".
>>>>>
>>>>>That's fine by me.
>>>>
>>>> Which means that you're no more moral than a homosexual.
>>>
>>>That's the most ludicrous thing you have come up with so far.
>>
>> So you're just another pro-liar hypocrite who only cares about the
>> Bible as a weapon. You ignore anything which might condemn you and
>> use it only to attack other people.
>
>Are you high on something?
Obviously you're just another coward who runs away from challenges to
your hypocritical propaganda.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADBA4...@69.28.173.184...
> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:PO-dnd-s1-oFVubV...@earthlink.com:
>
>>
>>
>> "BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9AD7A0...@69.28.173.184...
>>> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:TrWdnZAHiqPyzuvV...@earthlink.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:48759e31$0$17228$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because
>>> they
>>>>>>>>> prevent life?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why don't you answer the question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Your reasoning is screwy. Not creating life is not murder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good to see you come over to the pro-choice position.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well not completely. I still believe abortion is murder.
>>>>
>>> You may be able to attribute that belief to senility since everyone
>>> with an ounce of common sense knows it isn't.
>>>
>>
>> Murder, act of deliberate killing. Seems to fit abortion to me.
>>
>
> Show us the similarity, Grumps:
>
As the founding fathers said, life begins at conception.
> mur·der (mûr"d.r) n.
> The unlawful killing of one human being by another, especially with
> premeditated malice.
>
> a·bor·tion (.-bôr"sh.n) n.
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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I don't know. Why do you?
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:487c40c2$0$17234$742e...@news.sonic.net...
Yes, I know.
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADBA5...@69.28.173.184...
>>> cult (k¾lt) n.
If I belong to a cult, so do you. I am not a member of any group.
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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I was not the one to bring up the Bible. My weapon is the DOI.
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
BOB
news:XtydnYEPr7RKQOHV...@earthlink.com:
So you are evading answering the question, huh Grumps? That's because
there is no similarity and you have no answer. That also makes you a
liar, like most other anti-choice loons who post here.
BOB
news:8_idnV6DnJ97QuHV...@earthlink.com:
>>>> cult (kžlt) n.
You belong to a religion Grumps and ALL religions are cults by
definition. I already gave you the definition.
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADC75...@69.28.173.184...
What makes you think that I belong to a religion?
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADC74...@69.28.173.184...
I gave you the answer. You don't want to see it. You want to have your fun
and kill the life you created rather than be a man and be responsible.
BOB
news:ZuOdnRW-rdkam-DV...@earthlink.com:
Your anti-choice loon stance, your ng posts and responses, your cult
mentality, etc. Are you denying that you belong to a religion, Grumps?
BOB
news:o-WdnaQiafxWmuDV...@earthlink.com:
No, you didn't Grumps. I asked you for the similarities between the
definitions and descriptions for "murder" and "abortion". Like most
dishonest anti-choice loons and liars, you did not answer that queston.
Ray Fischer
>"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADBA4...@69.28.173.184...
>> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> Murder, act of deliberate killing. Seems to fit abortion to me.
>>>
>> Show us the similarity, Grumps:
>
>As the founding fathers said, life begins at conception.
You are a liar. They said no such thing.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message
>>>>> "Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because
>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> prevent life?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why don't you answer the question?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Your reasoning is screwy. Not creating life is not murder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good to see you come over to the pro-choice position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well not completely. I still believe abortion is murder.
>>>>>
>>>> You may be able to attribute that belief to senility since everyone with
>>>> an ounce of common sense knows it isn't.
>>>
>>>Murder, act of deliberate killing.
>>
>> Therefore YOU are a murderer.
>>
>> So why should we care about the whinings of a murderer like you?
>
>I don't know. Why do you?
I don't, murderer. Immoral creeps like you should be ridiculed and abused.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray Fischer
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> And, by the way, according to Leviticus eating shellfish is an
>>>>>>>> "abomination".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's fine by me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which means that you're no more moral than a homosexual.
>>>>>
>>>>>That's the most ludicrous thing you have come up with so far.
>>>>
>>>> So you're just another pro-liar hypocrite who only cares about the
>>>> Bible as a weapon. You ignore anything which might condemn you and
>>>> use it only to attack other people.
>>>
>>>Are you high on something?
>>
>> Obviously you're just another coward who runs away from challenges to
>> your hypocritical propaganda.
>
>I was not the one to bring up the Bible.
So what? That doesn't make you less of a hypocrite.
> My weapon is the DOI.
Which also refutes your claims and which has no legal standing in the US.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
BOB
news:487d8642$0$17222$742e...@news.sonic.net:
Apparently Grumps is just another anti-choice loon with no sense of honor.
Any lie for the cause.
Gramps
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:487d86f3$0$17222$742e...@news.sonic.net...
Are you claiming that we are still under British rule?
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADCA8...@69.28.173.184...
> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:o-WdnaQiafxWmuDV...@earthlink.com:
>
>>
>>
>> "BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9ADC74...@69.28.173.184...
>>> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:XtydnYEPr7RKQOHV...@earthlink.com:
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well not completely. I still believe abortion is murder.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may be able to attribute that belief to senility since
>>>>>>> everyone with an ounce of common sense knows it isn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Murder, act of deliberate killing. Seems to fit abortion to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Show us the similarity, Grumps:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As the founding fathers said, life begins at conception.
>>>>
>>> So you are evading answering the question, huh Grumps? That's
>>> because there is no similarity and you have no answer. That also
>>> makes you a liar, like most other anti-choice loons who post here.
>>>
>>
>> I gave you the answer. You don't want to see it. You want to have your
>> fun and kill the life you created rather than be a man and be
>> responsible.
>>
> No, you didn't Grumps. I asked you for the similarities between the
> definitions and descriptions for "murder" and "abortion". Like most
> dishonest anti-choice loons and liars, you did not answer that queston.
>
termination - What was the Terminator? What is an human embryo or fetus.
They are the first stages of a growing human being.
How do your definitions apply to late term abortion?
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:487d8642$0$17222$742e...@news.sonic.net...
What does "all men are created equal" mean then?
>
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADD50...@69.16.185.247...
Apparently Bob and Ray are pro abortion with no sense of respect for life.
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:487d8674$0$17222$742e...@news.sonic.net...
All those in favor of the murder of embryos' and fetus' should be neutered.
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:487c40f6$0$17234$742e...@news.sonic.net...
I'm not the one that brought the Bible into the conversation.
> --
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Ray Fischer
>"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADD50...@69.16.185.247...
>> rfis...@sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote in
>>>
>>>>>> Murder, act of deliberate killing. Seems to fit abortion to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Show us the similarity, Grumps:
>>>>
>>>>As the founding fathers said, life begins at conception.
>>>
>>> You are a liar. They said no such thing.
>>>
>> Apparently Grumps is just another anti-choice loon with no sense of honor.
>> Any lie for the cause.
>
>Apparently Bob and Ray are pro abortion with no sense of respect for life.
And there is the inevitable refuge of the pro-liar terrorist. They
ignore the fact that they would rather see women dead than free and
then accuse other of being as contemptuous of people's lives as they
are.
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Ray Fischer
>>>"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Xns9ADBA4...@69.28.173.184...
>>>> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>
>>>>> Murder, act of deliberate killing. Seems to fit abortion to me.
>>>>>
>>>> Show us the similarity, Grumps:
>>>
>>>As the founding fathers said, life begins at conception.
>>
>> You are a liar. They said no such thing.
>
>What does "all men are created equal" mean then?
Is that pathetic non-response supposed to justify your outright lie?
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Ray Fischer
>All those in favor of the murder of embryos' and fetus' should be neutered.
And then sent to the concentration camps, you goose-stepping control
freak?
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Ray Fischer
No, idiot. The DOI has no legal standing. It is not a legal
document. AND it refutes your claims.
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Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:487ec13f$0$17192$742e...@news.sonic.net...
Drama queen.
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> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:487ec169$0$17192$742e...@news.sonic.net...
Is that pathetic response supposed answer the question?
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> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>All those in favor of the murder of embryos' and fetus' should be
>>neutered.
>
> And then sent to the concentration camps, you goose-stepping control
> freak?
>
I never thought of that, but OK.
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> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Without the DOI there would be no USA.
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>
BOB
news:A4mdnTdWnIIE4OLV...@earthlink.com:
And your evidence for that is....?
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>> Ray Fischer
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>>
>
BOB
news:RrWdnUOn49ux1uPV...@earthlink.com:
It means what it says Grumps and that phrase includes women. Women have
the right to reproductive choice and you neocon wingnut religious kooks
will never deprive them of that right.
>>
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>> Ray Fischer
>> rfis...@sonic.net
>>
>
BOB
news:WKednRPjQIV-0ePV...@earthlink.com:
We are pro-choice Grumps and we certainly have more respect for human
life than you anti-choice loons.
pro-choice (pr½-chois“) adj.
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women and girls to choose
whether or not to continue a pregnancy to term.
>
BOB
news:KYidnQ59daaz2uPV...@earthlink.com:
I think you are lying Grumps, just like most other anti-choice loons who
post here.
>>>>>>
BOB
news:5LqdnRl8cKcA1-PV...@earthlink.com:
You still aren't answering the question Grumps. Where are "murder" and
"abortion" similar? Murder is always illegal and abortion is not.
BOB
news:WKednRPjQIV-0ePV...@earthlink.com:
Where is your respect for the woman's life, Grumps?
>
BOB
news:wd-dnYHRHPJu5uLV...@earthlink.com:
Fascist.
>
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>> Ray Fischer
>> rfis...@sonic.net
>>
Robert
wrote:
>
>
>"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9AD7A0...@69.28.173.184...
>> "Gramps" <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:TrWdnZAHiqPyzuvV...@earthlink.com:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>> news:48759e31$0$17228$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> And contraception and even abstinence are unacceptable because
>> they
>>>>>>>> prevent life?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Were did you come up with that, out of the air?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why don't you answer the question?
>>>>>
>>>>>Your reasoning is screwy. Not creating life is not murder.
>>>>
>>>> Good to see you come over to the pro-choice position.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well not completely. I still believe abortion is murder.
>>>
>> You may be able to attribute that belief to senility since everyone with
>> an ounce of common sense knows it isn't.
>>
>
>Murder, act of deliberate killing. Seems to fit abortion to me.
>
Self defense is justified, if killing the trespasser, that is a threat
to your life, or surrendering your life and liberty to that
trespasser. Are the only options, then killing is acceptable. A
unwanted fetus is a real threat to the life and health of the woman.
She is the only one that can make that decision. I applaud the woman
that decides to have a baby. But support her right to decide.
If God exist, and he doesn't like her decision then God can decide
what if any penalty to apply. But it is not a decision to be made by
self righteous bigots.
To refer to your Jesus "Let he who is without sin cast the first
stone" Too bad that you chicken shits that claim to follow the
teaching of Jesus, go completely against his teachings. The reason I
am atheist is I don't want too be associated with evil shits like you.
>>> Gramps
>>>
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>>>> Ray Fischer
>>>> rfis...@sonic.net
>>>>
>>>
>>
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BOB
Ray Fischer
Ray Fischer
>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
>>>> Gramps <Gran...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> Murder, act of deliberate killing. Seems to fit abortion to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Show us the similarity, Grumps:
>>>>>
>>>>>As the founding fathers said, life begins at conception.
>>>>
>>>> You are a liar. They said no such thing.
>>>
>>>What does "all men are created equal" mean then?
>>
>> Is that pathetic non-response supposed to justify your outright lie?
>>
>
>Is that pathetic response supposed answer the question?
Since you're a moron who has forgotten how to read I'll try to explain
in simple words.
"all men" refers to all adult males.
"created" is another word for "made".
"equal" means that they're all the same.
Of course, there's no mention of conception so you're obviously still
a liar, no matter how you try to squirm.
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Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Your replies are totally void of any intelligence.
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>
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADE75...@69.16.185.247...
Favoring or supporting the legal right of women to have someone commit
murder.
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADE76...@69.16.185.250...
In the small number of cases where the woman's life is in danger, her life
should take precedence over the unborn's.
Gramps
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:487fff1d$0$17213$742e...@news.sonic.net...
What about women and children. Were is your concerned about women's rights.
Right you made a life and it has rights.
That life's rights are the same as yours.
> Ray Fischer
> rfis...@sonic.net
>
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADE74...@69.16.185.247...
Now your contradicting Ray. Ray says it means all adult men.
>>>
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>>> rfis...@sonic.net
>>>
>>
>
Gramps
"Robert" <rob...@netportusa.com> wrote in message
news:k5vp74h698j07mumm...@4ax.com...
Let's do away with all laws and let God (if he exists) deal with all the
lawbreakers.
> To refer to your Jesus "Let he who is without sin cast the first
> stone" Too bad that you chicken shits that claim to follow the
> teaching of Jesus, go completely against his teachings.
There you go again, bringing the Bible into the debate.
The reason I
> am atheist is I don't want too be associated with evil shits like you.
You better get religion then.
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADE7...@69.16.185.250...
>>>>>>>>> cult (k�lt) n.
Wrong again.
Gramps
"BOB" <s...@sd.net> wrote in message news:Xns9ADE75...@69.16.185.250...
That's the problem. Abortion is legal murder. I hope someday they correct
that.
>
>>
>>>>>>> mur�der (m�r"d.r) n.
>>>>>>> The unlawful killing of one human being by another, especially
>>>>>>> with premeditated malice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a�bor�tion (.-b�r"sh.n) n.
james g. keegan jr.
dnTGGBZfyTx3Vn...@earthlink.com:
> "Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
> news:487ffea4$0$17213$742e...@news.sonic.net...
>>
>> That coming from a self-described murderer and an obvious liar.
>>
>
> Your replies are totally void of any intelligence
interesting that you claim even someone 'totally void of any
intelligence' cna recognize that you are a liar.
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james g. keegan jr.
JTh3VnZ2dn...@earthlink.com:
> Favoring or supporting the legal right of women to have someone commit
> murder.
i have yet to see a single person do that since the abortion newsgroups
were created many years ago.
can you post some examples.
if you lied and made it up, you need not reply.
Ray Fischer
But your a murderer and a moron, so obviously you're not capable of
understanding anything.
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