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Timur
Jack Linthicum
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Tap the pictures, a larger size will appear on the right side. Doesn't
the skin of the Chinese plane look unusual?
hcobb
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Problems with the Chinese fantasy aircraft:
Edge alignment. The panel edges seem to be "optimized" to reflect
radar straight ahead of the aircraft.
Canards: Big stealth no-no. The American designs use chines instead.
There is nothing that prevents the jet exhaust from going out to the
sides and burning off the tail of the aircraft. (Compare with F-22
nozzle design.)
But at least the Chinese design attempts to use the tail surfaces to
hide the exhaust nozzles, unlike the Russian design.
Mark Test
"Jack Linthicum" <jackli...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Maybe I'm missing it...but the only photo I see is of a US F-22....the rest
appear to be paintings and computer animations of concept aircraft.
So bottom line, China has no 5th gen aircraft.
Mark
hcobb
> So bottom line, China has no 5th gen aircraft.
> Mark
Yes, Russia, China and India have fifth generation fighter programs,
not fifth generation fighters.
Compare with Israel, which has had a peace process for several decades
instead of say peace.
-HJC
David E. Powell
> On Nov 24, 11:15 am, "Mark Test" <mgt...@gtek.biz> wrote:
>
> > So bottom line, China has no 5th gen aircraft.
> > Mark
>
> Yes, Russia, China and India have fifth generation fighter programs,
> not fifth generation fighters.
Looks like Firefox!
> Compare with Israel, which has had a peace process for several decades
> instead of say peace.
Well they aren't the ones who usually break it.
> -HJC
hcobb
wrote:
In order to have peace they would have to give up land.
A Peace Process is far less costly.
-HJC
William Black
> On Nov 24, 10:49 pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>> On Nov 24, 7:06 pm, hcobb <henry.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Compare with Israel, which has had a peace process for several decades
>>> instead of say peace.
>> Well they aren't the ones who usually break it.
>
> In order to have peace they would have to give up land.
>
The problem here is that for total peace they'd have to give up all the
land...
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
hcobb
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The Av Leak article has it right.
It's a cargo cult that owes more to the plastic toys the Chinese are
making than real science.
-HJC
Timur
Ray O'Hara
"William Black" <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> hcobb wrote:
>> On Nov 24, 10:49 pm, "David E. Powell" <David_Powell3...@msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Nov 24, 7:06 pm, hcobb <henry.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Compare with Israel, which has had a peace process for several decades
>>>> instead of say peace.
>>> Well they aren't the ones who usually break it.
>>
>> In order to have peace they would have to give up land.
>>
>
> The problem here is that for total peace they'd have to give up all the
> land...
>
and therein lies the problem
the Arabs have no intention of ever making peace as long as Israel exists.
Jordan held the West Bank and Egypt had Gaza for 19 years and never created
a Palestinian homeland.
if Jordan hadn't attacked like a jackal in 1967 they'd still own the West
Bank.
somehow their claims these days ring hollow.
dott.Piergiorgio
>> In order to have peace they would have to give up land.
> The problem here is that for total peace they'd have to give up all the
> land...
Whose is totally out of question on the .il side...
Personally, I think that for once a temporary solution of the core issue
lies in the Holy Books themselves, and even on a literary
interpretation: The Books of Joshua, Judges and Shamu'el spells clearym
black on white, that three centuries of the tent Tabernacle on Shiloh
and other three places (by the way, all well inside the Eretz Israel
side of the 1948 UN resolution border, if I grok correctly the relevant
maps). If these dense head orthodoxes are convinced of the soundness of
the concept and is worth of being implemented, this should ease the
majority of the Arab worries about the two major Mosques on top of
Yerushalem, and having three centuries to cool down, sorting out the
divergences & thinking on the problems IMVHO should ends in a
satisfactory solution of the core issue, a Holy city being too Holy,
that is, Holy for not one nor two, but three major world religions....
Only trouble in this scheme, for actually suggesting this there's need
of at least a powerful Nabi (that is, a Prophet in Gentiles term...)
capable of actually being heard.......
Shalom from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.
Timur
Timur
Timur
William Black
David E. Powell
Considering that the land they would have to give up would be their
entire country, probably.
> -HJC
Don Ocean
It would be nice if they gave back everything they stole in 1967 and did
honestly apologize for the USS Liberty massacre. Maybe even ask us to
execute Jonathon Pollard.
>
>> -HJC
>
Ray O'Hara
"Don Ocean" <oc...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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get over the fucken Liberty already, we got over Pearl Harbor in less time.
. the Liberty was a spy ship spying on a country involved in war of national
survival.
the crew knew the risks.
and I see you sympathize with those who attacked us on 9/11 .
why don't you just admit you admire Hitler and his "final solution" you'll
feel better.
Don Ocean
Wow! So now you are on a Hitler kick. I also have some doubts as to why
the WTC was attacked..And by whom exactly. So far there has been nothing
that would hold up in a world court that demanded exacting evidence. I
am not happy with either the damned Jews or the damned Muslims. I earned
my bones and the right to express opinions for the betterment of
America. I for one am sick and tired of American Sons and Daughters
bleeding for the messes created by the Jews in the ME. As for the final
solution...Well I will leave that up to you. It is above my pay grade at
this time. By the way we got over Pearl Harbor by popping off a couple
of Atomic weapons and the complete surrender of Japan. Are you
suggesting the same for Israels attack on a United States Naval vessel?
I can agree with that as that was definitely an act of war. In fact
another Jewish spy was caught Wednesday. Another act of friendship by
Israel.
>
>
Ray O'Hara
no one said you can't have your views. but your views are looney toons.
dott.Piergiorgio
> why don't you just admit you admire Hitler and his "final solution" you'll
> feel better.
By the Authority granted by Godwin, I hereby declare you the loser ;)
Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.
David E. Powell
1967 wouldn't even do it. All they'd be doing would be giving the
people shooting at them closer firing positions.
As the other poster pointed out, Jordan never created a "Palestinian
Homeland" when they were in the West Bank.
If Israel figures they'll get shot at anyway, why give a closer
position to the people shooting at them?
Executing Pollard or not was entirely our decision. As we didn't
execute the Walkers who did far worse, as far as I recall, the
precedent isn't really there. The last spies executed were the
Rosenbergs.
As for the Liberty I agree, but the Palestinians have actually done
worse. Arafat had a US Ambassador whacked as I recall.
Ray O'Hara
"dott.Piergiorgio" <dott.Pierg...@KAIGUN.fastwebnet.it> wrote in
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Godwin is a club used to stop free speech. any who resort to it are losers.
so you Dottie are a loser.
damarkley
Dean