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D. Spencer Hines

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May 6, 2007, 5:20:14 PM5/6/07
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Sacre Bleu!

Even Charlie Schumer seems to understand what has happened.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
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Sarkozy wins French presidency

May 6, 2007

Story Highlights

• Conservative Nicolas Sarkozy wins France's presidential election.

• Polls show Sarkozy, 52, won around 53 percent of the vote.

• In a victory speech, he promises to be "president of all the French
people."

• Conceding defeat, socialist Segolene Royal vows to "keep on fighting."

PARIS, France (CNN) -- Conservative Nicolas Sarkozy greeted news of his
election Sunday to a five-year term as France's president with a vow to
serve as a leader for all people of France.

"The president of the republic must love and respect all the French," he
told cheering supporters at his campaign headquarters. "I will be the
president of all the French people.

Sarkozy won with 53 percent of the vote, according to polls for France's
state-run network, France 2.

"The French people have called for change. I will carry out that change,
because that's the mandate I have received from the French people."

Sarkozy added that he wanted to tell his "American friends that they can
rely on our friendship ... France will always be next to them when they need
us."

But, he added, "Friends can think differently."

He then called on the United States "not to impede" in the fight against
global warming. "On the contrary, they must lead this fight because
humanity's fate is at stake here."

U.S. President George W. Bush called Sarkozy to congratulate him on his
victory, a White House spokesman said in a written statement.

Sarkozy said he would also work to form a link between Europe and Africa.
"We have to overcome hatred to give way to the great dreams of peace and
civilization," he said. "It's time to build a great Mediterranean union."

Sarkozy said he would put in place an immigration policy "that is going to
be controlled" and a development policy "that is going to be ambitious."

But he said that France would "stand next to" those who are persecuted by
tyrants, dictatorships."

"We are going to write together a new page of our history. This page, my
dear fellow citizens, I am sure it will be great."

Socialist Segolene Royal, a 53-year-old mother of four, acknowledged her
defeat -- with 47 percent of the vote -- in a speech to supporters moments
after the polls closed at 8 p.m. (2 p.m. ET).

"Keep the faith, keep intact your enthusiasm," she said at her party's
headquarters. "I will keep on fighting the fight that we have started
today."

Sarkozy, a former interior minister, and Royal were in a run-off after
emerging as the top candidates from the first round of voting on April 22.

Sarkozy will replace Jacques Chirac, a conservative who has been France's
president since 1995. His election makes him the first French president born
after World War II.

Voting was brisk. According to official figures, more than 75 percent of
registered voters had been to the polls by 5 p.m. (9 a.m. ET).

Sarkozy voted in the affluent Paris suburb of Neuilly-sur-Seine where he
lives, while Royal cast her vote in the western Poitou Charentes region,
where she is regional president.

The campaign has been dominated by a debate over how to improve economic
growth and reduce unemployment among the young, but its most explosive
moments focused on immigration.

Appealing to right-wing voters, Sarkozy said France could not provide "a
home for all the world's miseries."

On Friday, Royal said a Sarkozy presidency could trigger violence and
brutalities in suburbs with high immigrant populations, prompting Sarkozy to
condemn her "threatening comments."

CNN correspondent Hala Gorani reported extra security in some areas around
Paris where police have previously clashed with youths of North African
origin. There are no official figures on the number of North African
immigrants and their French-born descendants in France. Unofficially, the
number is estimated at between 3 and 6 million.

Prior to the election results being made public, Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.,
said a Sarkozy victory would be favorable to the United States.

"Clearly, his views are more in line with ours," Lugar told CNN's "Late
Edition With Wolf Blitzer."

Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., concurred: "I do. I do," he told CNN. "I mean,
it would be nice to have someone who is head of France who doesn't almost
have a knee-jerk reaction against the United States. [sic]


Peter Jason

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May 6, 2007, 5:35:23 PM5/6/07
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With any luck the French may have another
Margaret Thatcher.

Time to start loading grapeshot into the
cannons, and building troopships for the mass
deportations back to Africa.


Bliss!


"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com>
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> Sacre Bleu!
>
> Even Charlie Schumer seems to understand
> what has happened.
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Sarkozy wins French presidency
>
> May 6, 2007
>
> Story Highlights
>

> . Conservative Nicolas Sarkozy wins
> France's presidential election.
>
> . Polls show Sarkozy, 52, won around 53
> percent of the vote.
>
> . In a victory speech, he promises to be

> "president of all the French
> people."
>

> . Conceding defeat, socialist Segolene

William Hawthorne

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May 6, 2007, 5:39:38 PM5/6/07
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"D. Spencer Hines" <pan...@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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> Sacre Bleu!
>
> Even Charlie Schumer seems to understand what has happened.
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Sarkozy wins French presidency
>

Maybe the best Frenchman since Lafayette??
Go Sarko!!!

William Hawthorne
Colorado


D. Spencer Hines

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May 6, 2007, 7:04:49 PM5/6/07
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> Maybe the best Frenchman since Lafayette??
> Go Sarko!!!

<G>

Well...

Hope Springs Eternal.

DSH
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D. Spencer Hines

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May 6, 2007, 9:30:16 PM5/6/07
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Sarko has a fascinating Ethnic, Class, Educational & Religious Background.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Sarkozy>

Vive la France!

D. Spencer Hines

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May 6, 2007, 10:06:28 PM5/6/07
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Yet Britain seems ready to elect yet another Socialist Government -- at the
same time that France is rejecting Socialism.

Hilarious!

And Fascinating.

Backward Britain.

D. Spencer Hines

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May 7, 2007, 2:49:46 AM5/7/07
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Hilarious!

This sounds VERY much akin to the American Far Left.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas

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Defeated Socialists search for scapegoats
By Martin Arnold in Paris

Published: May 6 2007
The Financial Times

Let the finger-pointing begin. Ségolène Royal’s defeat on Sunday night left
the French Socialist party in disarray and searching for someone to blame.
There is hardly a shortage of scapegoats.

It is the party’s third consecutive presidential defeat. The Socialists now
face the question of whether they can ever regain power without ditching
their anti-capitalist rhetoric, as the mainstream left has done across
almost all of Europe.

Ms Royal can argue that she did better than Lionel Jospin, who in 2002 led
the Socialists to a humiliating third place behind Jacques Chirac and
far-right leader Jean-Marie Le Pen. But France’s main opposition party still
faces a wrenching crisis.

”The left is not credible on so many issues, from the 35-hour working week
to immigration and law and order,” says Dominique Reynié, professor at
Sciences Po university.

“It is the fault of the left collectively. Ever since their [parliamentary
election] defeat in 1983 they have never questioned their fundamental
ideology, only thinking they needed to change tactics,” he says.

In many ways, Ms Royal, the Senegal-born daughter of an army colonel, seemed
to be the tactical masterstroke that could restore the Socialist party to
winning ways.

Young and moderate voters were drawn by her Blairist ideas and taste for
smashing party taboos on the 35-hour week and young offenders. By embracing
the internet to invent a new participative style of campaigning, the
glamorous 53-year-old seemed to be breaking the political mould, becoming
the first woman with a shot at the Elysée palace.

But Ms Royal failed to capitalise on the buzz around her euphoric victory in
November’s Socialist primary, when she was seen as the “gazelle” beating
more experienced “elephants” for the presidential nomination. The fierce
primary battle, however, left the “elephants” feeling jealous and reluctant
to rally behind her.

In the months that followed she lost momentum, committing several gaffes,
notably on foreign and economic policy, which sowed the seeds of doubt about
her “presidential stature”.

Her campaign was shambolic. There were many last-minute agenda changes and
she often arrived late. Socialist staff moaned about her personalised
leadership style. An opinion poll found that 63 per cent of voters thought
her campaign was poor.

She never seemed able to escape from her party’s rigid ideological barriers.
Every time she tried, for instance by suggesting military camps for young
offenders, it provoked a volley of criticism from the party apparat.

Moderates attracted to her early campaign were disappointed by her
manifesto, filled with generous spending pledges and little indication of
how to fund them.

Party disunity exploded into public view when Eric Besson, her economic
adviser, quit saying she was “dangerous for France” and joined the Sarkozy
campaign.

François Bayrou, the centrist who came third in the first round, cited her
economic policies as his reason for not endorsing Ms Royal. “Her manifesto,
multiplying the interventions of the state, perpetuating the illusion that
the state must take care of everything… runs in the opposite direction to
the orientation needed,” he said.

The awkward role of François Hollande, her party leader and father of her
four children, seemed to backfire. He claimed she would raise taxes –
forcing her to deny it – and she suspended a spokesman for saying Mr
Hollande was “her only flaw”.

Ms Royal has always kept her distance from her party. She will remain head
of the Poitou-Charentes region and many expect her to retreat to her rural
base in western France to wait for the party battles to calm as she mulls a
2012 presidential bid.

Commentators predict the party could now be torn in two, along the lines of
the split in the 2005 European referendum, when a large minority rebelled
against the official party line and campaigned for a No vote.

”Her defeat will be extremely damaging for the left. Huge divisions will
start to emerge at 8pm on Sunday,” says Eric Dupin, author of _A Droite
Toute_, a book on the rightward shift of French voters.

Jean-Marie Colombani, director of Le Monde newspaper, says: “Globalisation
is still considered a threat and diabolised as the root of all evil. The
left must get out of the ideological impasse in which it has been trapped
for too long."


Starshiy Nemo

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May 7, 2007, 3:23:20 AM5/7/07
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>
>
The main difference is that British socialists, like Germans, have
rejected all links with Marxism.
This is NOT the case of French socialist who are really far more
leftists that their British or German counterparts.


Regards

Singanas@Texasgulfcoast

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May 7, 2007, 4:43:52 AM5/7/07
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Lafayette, nous voici !

The U.S. influence in the world is at a low ebb, and the none
other than the French majority have come to our side.

There were no riots and bus burnings caused by the Sarkozy
victory because the Beures don't want to go back to North
Africa.

Tis a call to return to Proust's memoir , listen to Piaf on vinyl
again and
pour some Medoc into a clean glass

Cheers, David H
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

dapra

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May 7, 2007, 3:19:40 PM5/7/07
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Sarko has a fascinating Ethnic, Class, Educational & Religious Background.
>

No. His story is typical of the ones left Hungary after the
'liberation'. So will be the ones who left Iraq after their
'liberation'. The rich left Hungary, the educated leave Iraq.

Viva for the cheese monkeys? That's how you must have call them in 2003.

dapra

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May 7, 2007, 4:39:57 PM5/7/07
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D. Spencer Hines wrote:

> Hilarious!
>
> This sounds VERY much akin to the American Far Left.
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
> ----------------------------------------
>

Yes, France must join the neoliberal exploitation of its people. Good
bye 35 hours work week, a month in the summer in the French Riviera.
Read Dickens to see what to come. Or Marx or Orwell.

J Antero

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May 7, 2007, 7:33:50 PM5/7/07
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Didn't Pol Pot get his intellectual training in France?

>
>
> Regards

La N

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"dapra" <dap...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> D. Spencer Hines wrote:
>
>> Hilarious!
>>
>> This sounds VERY much akin to the American Far Left.
>>
>> DSH
>>
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>> ----------------------------------------
>>
>
> Yes, France must join the neoliberal exploitation of its people. Good bye
> 35 hours work week, a month in the summer in the French Riviera. Read
> Dickens to see what to come. Or Marx or Orwell.
>

I just today received my second postcard in a week from Paris. I have a
very special friend who is right this moment doing a very good imitation of
Sinatra singing "April in Paris" ... ;)

Maybe the American conservatives will now quit calling the French "surrender
monkeys".

And, as for *moi*, I'm brushing up on my French which is our 2nd language up
here in canuckistan doncha know ...%)

- nilita


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