MireilleMathieu is back in Quebec to celebrate the 60th anniversary of a career that has taken her to the four corners of the globe, in a concert featuring most of her greatest hits. Her name still evokes palpable emotion to her many admirers. An event not to be missed.
There's no disputing she has a magnificent voice, but I always loathed her. Didn't care for her repertoire, her 'special needs' look or her laughable 'je suis croyante' interviews on French TV . We mocked her as kids.
In recent years there have been rumours that she's gay and of course it makes a bit of sense now because she's never been linked in all these decades to anyone and she's always refused to discuss her private life or her political views in interviews. Until now
In this interview with a gay TV presenter, from Le Figaro she discusses her compassion for the homeless, her support for abortion rights (!), and her support for gay rights (!). My Swiss French husbear says it's killing her, she's going to come out
Oh please, she got married week after week by the press with Yves Mourousi, the gayest of all news anchors in France, the world and the Milky Way. So that'd make sense if she had been playing for the other team all along...
For your information OP, she has NEVER been the biggest star after Edith Piaf. You really don't know anything about France to make such statements or you must have slept in a cave since the 80s. Even Mylene Farmer has always had more fans, more success, more albums sold than Mireille. I hate it when Americans who have never set foot in France or Europe talk nonsense like that. She had success only with old people in France in the 80s, and she sold more albums in Russia than in France.
Thanks, R10. I learned that some years ago and did a shallow dive into Trenet. He supposedly wrote the song while he was traveling in France on a train. Sounded like he was vacationing. But it also gave the year which was during the German occupation of France making me wonder if he was a Nazi or collaborator. Unfair I guess to make such an assumption - maybe he was part of the French Underground. I still love the song.
R14 ahaha you I already like you! I love your snarky humor. But Trenet never collaborated with the nazis, these are awful rumors made up by people (including some medias) who were very envious and took revenge this way. There have been several French documentaries these last years that deny this version. I am Swiss and not only am I a borderer of France, but I also understand French perfectly. This horrible rumor haunted Trenet for the rest of his life. He kept a bitter taste of it and was never the same again.
R9 I'm not trying to be a cunt, but could you give me a rundown on some? I'm mostly into Nouvelle Vague French movies/culture, so I'm not really aware of many singers and other figures - I know Dalida, Gainsbourg, Francoise Hardy, Charles Aznavour etc. obviously, but I feel like everyone does.
Also, does anyone have any knowledge about the Jacques Demy/Agnes Varda marriage (on the topic of closeted gay French icons)? I've read conflicting things on it - Demy being bisexual and genuinely traditionally in love with Varda (which is doubtful as the man died of AIDS) versus a mutual bearding arrangement versus Demy figuring out he was gay later in life after marrying her. Varda herself doesn't touch on his sexuality much, which I don't really fault her for.
Imagine a drag queen dressed as Mireille coming home from work, kissing the wife, tearing off her wig, bitching that the wife has prepared pork again for dinner on a Friday no less. etc. It was hilarious and very well done
To my uneducated ears, even though I'm French, the rolling 'R' used by opera singers and popular singers such as Edith Piaf, Charles Aznavour or Jacques Brel makes their songs sound old, historically dated, obsolete even though it is still a guttural 'R', only a prolonged and amplified guttural 'R'.
The only contemporary act that I can think of as rolling their Rs would be Louise Attaque, but the simple fact that they would the old R like Piaf made me ignore them and think they were Belgian because who in their right mind would sing rolling their 'R' around the 21st century?
R25. Mireille's R are part of her persona created by her Manager Johnny Stark who worked with Piaf and many other great French singers. He found Mireille when she was quite young so it was he who intended her to be the new Piaf. Piaf of course could carry an R into next week
R25, the uvular fricative R gradually replaced the alveolar trilled R in Parisian French around the 18th &19th centuries and spread throughout the rest of France. However, it was slow to take root in the South, where the Occitan dialects were still widely spoken, especially among the rural folk. The popular French singers of the early 20th century were still trilling their Rs in song, however, because it sounded nicer and was easier to sing. You can easily push and hold notes from trills than from guttural sounds.
[Quote]In 1963, Trenet spent 28 days in prison in Aix-en-Provence. He was charged with corrupting the morals of four young men under the age of 21 (they were 19). His chauffeur claimed that Trenet was using him as a pimp. The charges were eventually dropped, but the affair brought to public light the fact that Trenet was homosexual.[9] He was never particularly public about it and spoke of it rarely.
[Quote]In his authorized biography of Maurice Chevalier, author David Bret claims that Chevalier and Mistinguett were the ones who first "shopped" Trenet to the police for consorting with underage boys, around 1940. Trenet never learned of their action.[10
R24. Thanks for the Denise Darcel interview. She doesn't discuss it with Skip but her career was KO'd by her relationship with Billy Eckstine. She's one of the few French performers who didn't return to France where her career probably could have improved
Everybody is fucking everybody in Paris. It's always been like this so no big surprise. Maybe more will be revealed now that the Oliv ier Duhamel scandal is known but the French are good at keeping secrets.
R18 I can send you some links of openly gay singers in France. Here's Emmanuel Moire. A French singer openly gay. In this song he says " I make a promise to myself to finally live when my heart beats for a man". He's hot and a very nice man
R27 You are a Spaniard but you have the nerve to claim that Mireille Mathieu was the greatest diva of France after Edith Piaf? You are above all a good ignorant. You don't know the French people because to know them you have to know the French language and not only the French insults like "imbcile", you bitch
R29 I tell you again, Mireille Mathieu has never been the greatest diva in France after Edith. You don't even speak French but you think you know better than the Francophones??? Dalida sold more albums than Mireille. But you don't know that, you crazy cunt. I have a French name i speak french and i'm from the Franco-Swiss area, I know better than you what I am talking about.
R30 "Canadian born" hahaha! Mylne Farmer was born in Quebec, which means the FRENCH province of Canada, and from French parents. She grew up in France, made her career only in France and she has the French nationality. Quebecers are native of France. To date, she is the French artist who has broken all sales records. You're not a Spaniard, you're an American. Because in Europe everyone knows that, you Ignorant anus mouth !!!!
1/ my brother once bumped into Dalida down the street, circa 1985: he said that even though her hair looked beautifully golden on TV, it was actually orange, very brassy and ugly (we're both gay, something in the water in les Essarts-le-Roi as pretty much all our neighbors ended being gay);
2/ I almost literally bumped into Charles Trenet's partner (Georges El Assidi)'s cock and it was HUGE: it was like 8" soft, large, heavy, not fluffed at all, fand probably over 10" hard (if he could keep it hard, which would probably would have meant no more enough blood in the brain). It was in a bath house (Univers Gym) and it was about a month after he had been featured on tv, so all the boys out there knew who he was. But when they would see his cock the boys were kind of left with bulging eyes as if they just had had a stroke. The thing is, he was so femme, so nelly, that it instantly killed my buzz. He had topped Trenet all his life and probably wanted some backdoor action for himself!
R95 Oui c'est a, quand on est francophone, on ne dit pas les verbes en er, on dit les verbes du premier groupe. Tu n'es pas franais. A qui as-tu demand de te traduire ces conneries ? Sinon, la moindre des choses, c'est de ne pas raconter de mensonges aussi gros que ceux que tu diffuses sur ce forum. Mireille Mathieu n'a jamais t la plus grande diva aprs Edith Piaf en France. Pourquoi tu mens ? Cela t'a pris 25 minutes pour me rpondre en franais, fais le plus vite cette fois, que je vois jusqu'o un sociopathe peut aller
R95 Yes, that's it, when you're French, you don't say "verbs in er", you say verbs of the first group. You're not French. Who did you ask to translate this crap for you? Otherwise, the least you can do is not to tell lies as big as those you spread on this thread. Mireille Mathieu was never the greatest diva after Edith Piaf in France. Why do you lie? It took you 25 minutes to answer me in French. Do it faster this time, so I can see how far a sociopath can go.
OK, nearly 200 million albums. That's the last research II provide for you. And no more translating MM videos for you or telling you about the drag show in Lyon. .Some of you get quite irrational when you have to accept Mireille is the biggest French Diva since Piaf.
R97 You don't seem to understand what you yourself are saying here. You say that she is the greatest diva after Edith Piaf IN FRANCE. In your article (which is very dubious), it says "throughout the world". In France Mireille is not and has never been the greatest diva after Edith. You have a big mental problem. Go tell that to a French peroon and he will laugh in your sociopath face.
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