Dear Zoltan,
Thank you very much! I have included your suggestions and now we have the announcement that can be spread (attached is a doxc and a pdf version). I will post it on www.phidot.org (I will send you the link later) and circulate it on the hmecology list. Please also use your cannels to advertise the workshop widely. Then we will see, how large is the interest.
I have checked whether it is possible to install JAGS and NIMBLE on Linux, and according to the descriptions, this is possible for both. Though, Marc and I have no experience at all with Linux, so such users need to install the software on their own.
Best wishes
Michael
Von: Dr. Németh Zoltán <nemeth...@science.unideb.hu>
Gesendet: Montag, 24. November 2025 11:05
An: Michael Schaub <michael...@vogelwarte.ch>; Dr. Barta Zoltán <zba...@unideb.hu>
Cc: Marc Kery <marc...@vogelwarte.ch>
Betreff: Re: Draft workshop announcement
Dear Michael and Marc,
Thanks again for the draft workshop announcement document. It looks great, we only added a couple of minor suggestions including my contact info as we would like to monitor how much interest there is for the workshop and be able to decide on time whether to advertise more.
Question: Are JAGS and NIMBLE compatible with Linux? Quite a few researchers here work in that environment and do not have a laptop with Windows OS.
Thanks again,
Zoltan
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Zoltán Németh
Department of Evolutionary Zoology and Human Biology
University of Debrecen
Debrecen, Egyetem tér 1., 4032, Hungary
Phone: +36-(52)-512-900 ext. 62314
Cell: +36-(30)-236-5608
From: Michael Schaub <michael...@vogelwarte.ch>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2025 2:03 PM
To: Dr. Németh Zoltán <nemeth...@science.unideb.hu>; Dr. Barta Zoltán <zba...@unideb.hu>
Cc: Marc Kery <marc...@vogelwarte.ch>
Subject: AW: Draft workshop announcement
FIGYELEM: Ez a levél külső feladótól származik. Ne kattintson semmire a levélben, és ne nyissa meg a csatolmányt, amennyiben a küldő e-mail címét nem ismeri fel!
Perfect! Have a nice weekend as well!
Best wishes
Michael
Von: Dr. Németh Zoltán <nemeth...@science.unideb.hu>
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. November 2025 13:55
An: Michael Schaub <michael...@vogelwarte.ch>; Dr. Barta Zoltán <zba...@unideb.hu>
Cc: Marc Kery <marc...@vogelwarte.ch>
Betreff: Re: Draft workshop announcement
Dear Michael,
Thanks a lot for the first version! We will discuss and edit it and send you a new version next week.
Have a nice weekend,
Zoltan
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Zoltán Németh
Department of Evolutionary Zoology and Human Biology
University of Debrecen
Debrecen, Egyetem tér 1., 4032, Hungary
Phone: +36-(52)-512-900 ext. 62314
Cell: +36-(30)-236-5608
From: Michael Schaub <michael...@vogelwarte.ch>
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2025 6:23 PM
To: Dr. Németh Zoltán <nemeth...@science.unideb.hu>; Dr. Barta Zoltán <zba...@unideb.hu>
Cc: Marc Kery <marc...@vogelwarte.ch>
Subject: Draft workshop announcement
FIGYELEM: Ez a levél külső feladótól származik. Ne kattintson semmire a levélben, és ne nyissa meg a csatolmányt, amennyiben a küldő e-mail címét nem ismeri fel!
Dear Zoltan and Zoltan,
Please find attached our suggestion for the workshop advertisement. Could you please have a look and add your comments/suggestions?
Thank you very much!
Best wishes
Michael
Von: Dr. Németh Zoltán <nemeth...@science.unideb.hu>
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Oktober 2025 11:14
An: Michael Schaub <michael...@vogelwarte.ch>; Marc Kery <marc...@vogelwarte.ch>; Dr. Barta Zoltán <zba...@unideb.hu>
Betreff: Re: Workshop budget
Dear Michael,
Thank you for your input. I attached a detailed budget in which you can see the individual items. Based on your input, and after talking with Zoltan, I also updated the registration fee calculations. Now, it includes 3 tiers for 4 categories. Please let us know what you and Marc think. We have organized workshops before with internationally known instructors and our experience is that Western EU participation is relatively low (despite the lower costs), that is why (i.e., to not further discourage participation, as well as for fairness) we would prefer not to set a large gap among the different categories. Of course, you and Marc may have other reasons and we are open for further modifications.
Best wishes,
Zoltan
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Zoltán Németh
Department of Evolutionary Zoology and Human Biology
University of Debrecen
Debrecen, Egyetem tér 1., 4032, Hungary
Phone: +36-(52)-512-900 ext. 62314
Cell: +36-(30)-236-5608
From: Michael Schaub <michael...@vogelwarte.ch>
Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2025 6:26 PM
To: Dr. Németh Zoltán <nemeth...@science.unideb.hu>; Marc Kery <marc...@vogelwarte.ch>; Dr. Barta Zoltán <zba...@unideb.hu>
Subject: AW: Workshop budget
FIGYELEM: Ez a levél külső feladótól származik. Ne kattintson semmire a levélben, és ne nyissa meg a csatolmányt, amennyiben a küldő e-mail címét nem ismeri fel!
Dear Zoltan,
Thank you very much for this. Marc and I were wondering whether you have some details about the budget, i.e. some table where you have calculated it. For us this would be informative.
Regarding the workshop fees, we believe that we can (and should) charge participants from Western EU countries more. When we hold a workshop in Switzerland, we charge ~300 euros for students and ~600 euros for postdocs and above. Perhaps we could lower these prices slightly to reduce the difference between the Eastern and Western EU countries, but €200/€400 for students/postdocs seems appropriate to us (particularly since accommodation in Hungary is cheaper than in Western Europe). We also suggest lowering the price for Eastern EU participants to €50. If we then have 10 participants from the east and 10 from the west, the income will be at least €2,500, and Zoltan's losses will be smaller.
What are your thoughts on this?
Best wishes
Michael
Von: Dr. Németh Zoltán <nemeth...@science.unideb.hu>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Oktober 2025 14:34
An: Marc Kery <marc...@vogelwarte.ch>; Michael Schaub <michael...@vogelwarte.ch>; Dr. Barta Zoltán <zba...@unideb.hu>
Betreff: Workshop budget
Dear All,
Last time, we concluded our meeting with the agreement that us, local organizers, would come up with a preliminary budget by the end of September.
According to our calculations, the expected costs associated with the workshop will total around 4300 EUR, which includes room and catering costs for the workshop, as well as transport, accommodation, meals and per diem for Marc and Michael.
We propose a two-tier system for registration fees based on country of origin: 120 EUR for participants from Western EU countries and 60 EUR for Eastern EU ones. We anticipate at least 10 participants from each of these regions, totalling to approx. 1800 EUR.
The reamining costs will be covered by a grant from Zoltan Barta.
We also talked about a preliiminary round of advertising in December and a follow up in January or February with a final decision to be made about the feasibility (financial viability) of the workshop in late March/early April.
Please let us know if this sounds reasonable and if you have any suggestions with regards to registration fee pricing or any other parts of the preparation.
Best wishes,
Zoltan
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Zoltán Németh
Department of Evolutionary Zoology and Human Biology
University of Debrecen
Debrecen, Egyetem tér 1., 4032, Hungary
Phone: +36-(52)-512-900 ext. 62314
Cell: +36-(30)-236-5608