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AgreedE-Class ships are now my favorite cruiseship and having been in three different IV cabins which I loved they ARE NOT Verandas by any stretch of the Imagination. It's a Oceanview with a Panoramic window that opens. On our Halloween Edge cruise we enjoyed having the window open several nights while we slept (We enjoy the room warmer than cooler) so that's certainly possible as long as you're aware it's not going to be cool.

Hi! As others have stated, no. AquaClass cabins are all Infinite Verandas...except for Aqua Sky Suites that are starting to make their debut. I have not been fond of the idea of the E-class ships, especially those infinite verandas. I almost convinced myself to try one when I decided I wanted to try the Beyond. I watched so many videos and looked at so many pictures. It just is not a balcony that I am used to on a ship. I love sitting out there, standing out there, walking from one balcony to the next (my family & friends balcony dividers, we get opened). There is so much debate. People love them. People hate them. People don't want to try to see.

They are appealing because not everyone really uses those traditional balconies except to get some fresh air. Are IV cabins revolutionary? Absolutely. I don't know any cruiseship that has window/oceanview cabins that open. Carnival's Spirit Class had something similar called Obstructed View French French Door Cabins. The rooms were on the Deck right where the lifeboats are. But instead of a regular oceanview window they install the same sliding doors as a balcony cabin and when you slide open the door there was a glass railing so you couldn't step out anywhere. I had one of those cabins on a TP to Hawaii and it was great to leave open the sliding door and get fresh air, the sound of the ocean, and a slight glimpse of the water in between the lifeboats. Sadly they have replaced the french doors with a solid non opening window, so although you have now have a panoramic floor to ceiling window they don't open for fresh air.

I think the IV cabin turned out not exactly as previewed because the mockups didn't account for all the structural nuances which made the mockups seem larger than the actual finished product. The mockups didn't account for the space needed for the blackout pleated shades nor for the folding doors. I think there also wasn't allowance made for the King size beds that are in IV rooms. If you take a careful and closeup views of the mechanics of all the components in the Veranda section of the IV room you'll see all these features that take up an inch here, couple of inches there and when you add it all up the actual useable space of the Veranda portion is negligible. You have to move the chairs to open and close the bifold doors and you have to move the chairs to close the shade too (I bet more than a few pleated shades have been ruined by having the furniture in the way when the shade came down).

We liked the extra room in the cabin. I'm not big on sitting on the balcony anyway, so I was fine with it--when I wanted the breeze, I opened the window for a bit. We'll still book balconies on other ships, but we'll also book IVs because we enjoyed Edge.

I was really hoping that Beyond would offer some traditional balconies in Concierge and Aqua Class along with Infinite Balconies for those who like the former layout. Looks like that wish will not be granted. My only hope now is that if Celebrity designs an entirely new class of ship, such a choice of traditional or Infinite will be available.

I think Celebrity's powers that be underestimated how much some passengers really enjoy their balconies. Two chairs in a crowded space is not my idea of a great balcony experience, but Sunset Verandas are so popular they are hard to get.We couldn't book one on Beyond for the cruise we chose.

Countless (!) threads and posts on this since even before EDGE was launched. You have the best answer- you need to just try an IV and judge for yourself. A lot of people will give you their opinions (hate to love) and many are from people that have never sailed E-class or have stayed in an IV.

We have sailed on Edge, in an Infinite Veranda. E-Class ships are a new experience, in every way. We enjoyed that experience. You will not enjoy an IV cabin because you have already convinced yourselves of that. So, book any other cabin category and you will automatically alleviate that concern. If you don't do Aqua, the four MDR's are very good.

When booking an 'E' Class ship, do so with an open mind about everything. The ships are modern, definitely different and thus open to close scrutiny, especially from seasoned X cruisers. We certainly like the "tried and true" 'M' and 'S' Class Celebrity ships. We appreciate and welcome innovation and the opportunity to occasionally go contemporary.

Just off the Ascent last week, the only reason I was on this ship as it was gifted sort of (Blue chip comp). My wife was excited to try something new, as we usually sail Aq on S class. Although the ship was beautiful, service was excellent, that room with the Infinite veranda was a huge disappointment Not just for the window(that's all it is), creaky sagging bathroom floor, loud banging in the ceiling, and even the veranda creaking in the night on calm seas. I definitely couldn't see myself on a TA on this class of ship.

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