I agree with Mr Sarkar . Since we are going to legal route ultimately , we must seek opinion of lawyer on what is right process to strengthen our case. As suggested , we should submit a individual letter asking for increase in rate of interest and refund with interest etc and contents of the letter .Can Jatin take the initiative ?Regards--On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Somnath Sarkar <som...@gmail.com> wrote:
I do agree with most of us that we should stick to 15th Oct meeting,
so as to give an impression to Unitech that we are firm on our dates.
Couple of other points that comes to my mind. Let us have views on
this -
1. Do we have confirmation from Unitech regarding the 15th meeting and
who all are attending from their side?
2. Do we need to prepare any letter to Unitech with our demands? This
letter should be given to them either during the meeting or later. Any
such letter should have the registered owners name/ signature & flat
numbers. If, we agree on this we need to start praparing a draft for
this. Getting signatures from oversees friends/ outside Delhi using a
scan copy may take a bit of time.
3. These correspondences will help when we go for any legal action.
Regards
Somnath Sarkar
> On Sep 26, 2011 7:58 AM, "Jatinder Jaggi" <j...@airtelmail.in> wrote:> Agree in toto on the 15th October meeting and to decide subsequent course
On Sep 26, 6:19 pm, Narinder Aggarwal <aggarwa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree that 15th meeting not be postponed as participation or not of one
> person would not make any difference.
> While taking legal opinion please clarify what documents or authorisation
> will be required from those living abroad for legal action either for single
> or joint ownership. In case of joint ownership can one person take action or
> both must take action jointly at the same time.
> Regards.
> > of action> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Sandeep Verma <vermasandee...@gmail.com>
>
> > Regards
>
> > J M Jaggi
>
> > From: unitec...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>
> unitec...@googlegroups.com]
>
>
>
> > On Behalf Of V Prem Swarup
> > Sent: 26/09/2011 8:04 AM
> > To: unitec...@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Next meeting on 15th Oct with Unitech
>
> > Dear Jatin
>
> > I agree with Sandeep .Let us not give opportunity to Unitech by delaying
> > the date of meeting fruther . We would make the agenda and send it to
> > them for discussion .
>
> > The main point would be increase in penalty for delay beyond the contrcat
> > rate from Rs 5/- to Rs 18% per annum . Visit to site is going to be
> > incidental . Just an event of putting 200 workers by Unitech on 15th oct
> > does not gurantee timely delivery .
>
> > We would minutes to be recorded for discussion . Head finance should
> > also be there in meeting.
>
> > In case , no agreement is reached , we take the next step of filing
> > the legal case . Till then let us do our home work with legal experts
> > assuming that Unitech is not going to agree so easily.
>
> > Prem Swarup
>
> > wrote:> > On Sep 25, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Jatin Agarwal <jatin.agra...@gmail.com>
>
> > Dear Jatin,
>
> > With all due respect to Mr Agarwal, I don't think we should postpone the
> > 15th oct meeting.Most of us are not from Delhi and are professionals for
> > whom its difficult to keep changing the plans of coming to delhi.
>
> > Moreover it will always be difficult to find a time and date suitable to
> > 100% of the members. I suggest that for the 15th meeting if some of us
> > can't make it in person , we send a representative. This is not just for
> the
> > Unitech meeting but more so that we can meet in person to decide and
> > discuss the legal strategy.
>
> > If it's completely impossible for someone to either come or send their
> > representative then they can join through telecon in the meeting we have
> > after the Unitech meeting..
>
> > It's impractical to plan out the logistics of a legal battle without
> meeting
> > at least once in person and the sooner the better.
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Sandeep
>
> > Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Narinder Aggarwal <aggarwa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > As Mr.Narinder is a very active member of our group and he cannot make it
> on
> > 15th ,I feel it will be better if we shift the date of meeting to last
> > saturday of October. Please let me know so that I can arrange the meeting
> > accordingly.
>
> > Personally, I have no trust in the fake assurances given by unitech and
> even
> > if 100 people are working on site on last week of october there is no
> > guarantee that we will get our flats by march. There can be further
> problems
> > and delays and moreover I do not feel that unitech will agree for a higher
> > penalty rate just based on a discussion.
>
> > According to me,we should not waste our time and should start the process
> of
> > filing a legal case .We have been made to agree on many one sided points
> in
> > the agreement and the case is for repealing those points and to see that
> the
> > builder and buyer pay the same penalty when there are violations on their
> > side.
>
> > We are not loosing anything by filing a legal case .Spending Rs 50000 more
> > will not make a big dent when we have already spent so much
>
> > In parllel we can follow up with unitech and keep on listening to their
> > false promises.
>
> > Kind Regards
>
> > Jatin
>
> > To: unitec...@googlegroups.com; ashwinide...@yahoo.com;> > wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > Agree with all previous said but personally can't make it for 15th.
>
> > In my view we should forward the Agenda in advance for the meeting and
> > request for presence of Finance Head and/or others relevant to the
> > discussion.
>
> > From my perspective the following needs to be discussed:
>
> > a. Penalty clause should be revised equitable to 18% interest as
> > charged by Unitech. Just because discriminatory clauses are in the
> contract
> > does not make them legal, fair or equitable
>
> > b. Mere promises of completion would be as useless today as in the
> > past unless backed up by clearly defined goalposts to be achieved by
> Unitech
> > over the set period.
>
> > e.g. All external plastering and paintwork complete date, All windows,
> door
> > frames completion date. Club house completion, date for application for
> > residency certificate to relevant authorities etc. electrification date,
>
> > Other members with previous knowledge or experience may guide better.
>
> > c. Quality assurance on Kitchen framework and accessories and
> > materials
>
> > d. Can substantive building activity can be verified on the site on
> > 15th as promised previously by Unitech
>
> > What is plan B, if we are not able to get the required assurances in
> > particular to a. and b.
>
> > I am willing to take the legal route for certain in conjunction with other
> > team members whatever legal representation or course is jointly agreed.
>
> > Regards
>
> > Narinder Aggarwal
>
> > From: unitec...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>
> unitec...@googlegroups.com]
>
>
>
> > On Behalf Of Sandeep Verma
> > Sent: 25 September 2011 09:16
> > marwahr...@hotmail.com; pk...@yahoo.com
> > Subject: Re: Next meeting on 15th Oct with Unitech
>
> > Hi All,
>
> > We must definitely meet the Unitech team once along with their finance guy
> > this time on the 15th. Basis this meeting only should we decide on the
> next
> > steps.
>
> > A lot of members are still not very keen to pursue the legal option so
> let's
> > meet the Unitech team and take a call after that.
>
> > Would request all 20 of us to join for the same. In case you can't come in
> > person, pls send your representative...The more the merrier..We need to
> show
> > our number strength.
>
> > Would request Mr Swarup to send out a mail to the Unitech people he had
> met
> > the last time to confirm the same and also ask him to ensure that the
> > finance head is also present for this meeting..
>
> > Cheers,
>
> > Sandeep
>
> > Sent from my iPad
>> > On Sep 25, 2011, at 8:45 AM, V Prem Swarup <vpswa...@gmail.com> wrote:> > Landline 9219928213- Hide quoted text -
>
> > Dear Jatin
>
> > Are we planning next meeting with Harsh Chatruvedi on 15th Oct ? .
> > please let me know .
>
> > Regards
>
> > --
>
> > V Prem Swarup
>
> > --
> > V Prem Swarup
> > No 3 Dayal Nagar Dayalbagh
> > Agra 282005
> > Cell 805710 8482
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
V Prem Swarup
No 3 Dayal Nagar Dayalbagh
Agra 282005
Cell 805710 8482
Landline 9219928213
Do we need to attach the list of owners with their signatures expressing their consent and authorization?
If yes, how we can take the signatures
We should also strive to take the written acknowledgment for receipt
Thanks to the team (especially those who met Unitech) for their initiative and follow up actions.
Regards,
Baqar Naqvi
Flat-1003, Tower -6
Mobile: +966502895677
Regards,
Josh/Trupti
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Email: trups...@mailme.ae
I have talked with Mr. Harsh and he has agreed for 15 th oct meeting
at time 10:30 am.
I had a word with Mr. Sinha as well and he has also agreed to meet but
he said that he will not meet with the whole group but only a single
person. May be one of us can meet him.
Request you all to make plans for 15th oct meeting.
Unitech is imposing erroneous conditions for the meeting. When all members have given payments and have valid bookings with them why are they afraid to meet the group as a whole and here we are only talking of a few (single digit) civilised representatives. Or is there an ulterior motive to this, to create deliberate apprehension between members. We should not give in to this, at least three representatives should go in discussion with Mr. Sinha. That should be the absolute minimum.
Actually they are not doing us any favours, but we are by listening to them and all in good faith.
Regards
Mohan
Looking at unitech response, If it is up to me I would not go into the meeting without legal representative along with fellow members. It seems they are not coming to this with good intent, hence putting pre conditions, but still worth giving them a chance.
I agree with Mr. Sarkar that all relevant should be in one meeting, otherwise little will be gained.
As for costs associated, let me know my contribution and the account number, I will transfer it immediately.
I will go with majority decision.
I would urge all members to forward their viewpoints at the earliest, so a consensus can be formed.
Regards
Mohan
Hello folks
Sorry for having been out of touch as I was away.
Hi Jatin, Please confirm that we are meeting on 15th October at UNITECH office where we met previously and at what time?
Regards
J M Jaggi
Had brief word with Mr. Chaturvedi today, he says slow work on site which means to me status quo. He could not give any assurance on when work will commence full swing to meet March deadline but only that things will become clearer end October. Does this relate to project specific decision or general legal complexities that unitech is involved in I do not know.
The group members meeting on 15th perhaps can get a better feedback.
For me it means choosing between sweating it out or a legal recourse I.e. a choice between the devil and the deep blue sea. Not a pretty site when you are starting a devil in the face. Whatever the group decides will go with it.
Regards