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I am just curious if your Netflix streams 5.1, 7.1, stereo, DD +. Also, is the dynamic range the same as playing a bluray? DD + was made for digital stream and a lower bitrate. Movie playback for me is most dynamic with a bluray disc compared to streaming. What is you take on this topic? Maybe I should also ask are you streaming from a PC, BDP, Smart TV, Roku, ect. and what is doing the decodings, the player or avr?
I stream Neflix from my Apple TV, and I believe the audio is dictated by the source of the programming you are watching, for example: Breaking Bad, House of Cards, and the movie The Avengers were all Dolby Digital. However most of the programming seams to be Stereo and I don't think they have any offerings in DD+ yet and that Hulu and VUDU are the only 2 that offer that level of audio at this time. And IMO, NO! none of these even come close to the audio (or video quality for that matter) of a Blu-Ray disc. But again it's more convenient, and we are a lazy society. So sadly it seams that streaming is the future and not Blu-Ray disc. I have over 150 Blu-Rays, but I only watch one every now and then. I stream daily and I cut the cord over a year ago and haven't looked back.
i really like netfix. tons of good political videos and true documenturies. kids movies are good. action movies lack imo although getting better. and i can run it in every room and other houses for $8 monthly
I stream Netflix from my Sony BDP or Samsung TV. My Denon AVR is doing the decoding in 5.1 DD+. I use Vudu for new releases. I think the video is much better than Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, etc. I don't run an optical and use just one HDMI from TV to the Denon. ARC channel. Vudu is obviously not as good as bluray discs but the video is very close but the audio does lack and I usually have to run at -5 to reference on the volume. Blurays I run the volume at -10 and that is quite loud for me.
The type of streaming seams device and app controlled. My TV and one BDP will stream in stereo and I can matrix to sound. My newer BDP can do DD + up to 7.1. The dynamic range just is not there for me that if I really like a movie, I have to get the disc. And yes, When I watch the disc I get a better movie experience. I am not sure if DD+ is better or same as matrix 5.1. Something tells me it shoud be roughly the same since we are talking about digital tranfer of data.
For now it's BD (or, if no BD exists, DVD) disks only for me. We tried a little Netflix streaming and the visual quality ranged from excellent to terrible. One particular movie (Barabbas) looked horrible when streamed, and had fantastic "walk-into-it" resolution and acutance -- just what you'd expect from a 70 mm source -- when we rented it as a lowly DVD. On the other hand, my wife streamed the Legend of the Seeker series, and it looked fine. I was told by a IT guy that streaming varies with the amount of traffic, as well as the source used. We didn't evaluate the sound, because we ran the streamed versions through our PC and our smaller, two channel system. The sound for The Seeker didn't grab me as being bad, or limited in dynamics, but it might have had we played it on our big system. The visual quality of the streamed Barabbas was so bad that the sound of our screaming drowned out the sound.
I wonder if those who are streaming on their PCs, etc., etc. now are less demanding than those of us who use BDs in home theater? That could bode ill for future quality. I have the impression that few in the industry care.
This is what I was getting at in my post.... there have been many articles about this issue. There are far more streamers out there than BD disc buyers. Streaming is without a doubt where things are headed, because quite honestly the majority doesn't care about sound quality. But hopefully the quality of the picture and sound will improve as time goes on.
I guess the DD + was made for streaming on all the new devices like ROKU, WD TV, smart phones, ect. It is a lossy format compared to DTS Master and Dolby TrueHD. I was reading that it is compressed and can fit into smaller bandwidths for transmission.
Comparing image in Netflix app on TV, iPad and PC its pretty clear on the Sony TV everything is stretched. It doesn't matter which format it originially has (old, new movies same), the app on the TV will stretch the image a tiny bit making sure it fits perfectly in the frame of 16:9. This is hardly noticeable, but for me who's picky about these things its very annoying.
The big problem is you cannot change screen control (skjermkontroll in Norwegian) on internet content. On my HDMI channels it's set to wide and no matter what format plays there it will always show correct.
If I play the Matrix on Netflix (which is very wide format), it will offcourse not fit the screen to 16:9, but have small black bars up and below picture, which it should. However, it is still a bit stretched (or squeezed upwards is a better description).
Anyone else have this problem? It's really annoying. It just doesn't make sense to me why the Netflix app on the TV is a tiny bit stretched (or squeezed). You wont notice it unless you compare with your pc/ipad image. Then its very clear. Heck I've been watching Netflix on my TV since last summer and only now did I notice. Most noticeable with cars in the image, they seem a bit skinny, like squeezed. Sorry if I'm not explaining well.
I just played a DVD of Longmire on my Blurayplayer. And it's the same image problem there. So Im starting to think it's not the Netflix app, but the TV itself. I read about a guy having similar problems, offcourse I cannot find that now. He had a different Sony TV, but it appeared that his TV wasn't full HD ready (allthough advertised as), mentioning missing something like 30mm for a full 16:9 format. That's 1,5cm each side. I'm starting to think that's the problem I've got as well, it certainly would explain the squeezed image! So it must also inflict when I watch via tuner. Funny though, I've never noticed anything as the aspect ratio seems to be normal there when comparing. but now I'm starting to get angst it's always been squeezed there as well (allthough a quick test shows its normal). Another funny thing, is my pc is connected to the TV. And watching movies via the TV from my pc, the format is normal. So I'm becoming very confused here, it'd be simpler if the squeeze problem was on everything. Edit: No, I just watched Netflix via chrome via pc to tv (hdmi) and it's still squeezed. So it appears all a squeezed image on internet content, pc source and bluray. Tuner and chromecast has normal aspect ratio. This shouldnt be possible as there is a full image edge to edge on all sources, so why th differnce?
Suppose I just have to live with it... buying a new TV is a no no as I'm thrilled with this one, finally got the display settings/colors I'm happy with, which I spent months trying to get right to my liking. Oh well
Embarassing I only found this out now, have had this TV for many years. But only noticed it when I compared to other images on ipad, pc, even the phone. Me being so picky about correct aspect ratio, colors etc. it's funny how I've never noticed this watching tv in general, as mentioned before most easily noticeable on cars that seems "skinny". But you really need an image to compare to, or you just wont see it.
I actually already tried that, sadly to no avail. The reason full pixel doesn't work (I think) is because it only applies to the HDMIs, not internet content. But from what I can see, the full pixel sorta only "zooms out/show full", it doesn't affect aspect ratio/zoom/pixels on Netflix. Thanks for the tip though
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