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Eddy Norris

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September 27, 2009


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NEW MEMBERS
Neville Rudiger signs in from SA. Boys high school 1970 for only one year and PTC 1971 - 1984
Arthur (Tolly) du Toit signs in from RSA. He was Palmer House from 1960-64.
Coleen Wallman (Nee Hunter) I lived in Mutare with my folks and sister Carol up to 1964 when we moved to Salisbury as it was then. I went to St David's Kindergarten (Miss Allen was the Headmistress then) and Umtali Junior School and spent only about one and a half years at Umtali Girls High when Miss Clarke was the Headmistress. In my circle of friends were Hillary Forsyth (deceased), Melanie Lane and Di Lomas. I do not know their married names and have lost touch with them.
Coleen resides in Zim.
June MacDonald (Knight) signs in from Melbourne, Australia.

MEMORIES OF UMTALI
Margaret Wessels (Pavier)
Some news from a girl – I did all my schooling in Umtali, St. Davids Kindergarten(1951 and then completed at UGHS under the firm guidance of Miss Clarke (sp). I was a boarder at Tulloch House for a while too. We used to sit on the lawns of Tulloch awaiting the welcome sound of the ring of the Ice Cream cart. Clutching our tickeys (tickies?) we rushed to the gates to place our orders for iced lollies or ice cream sandwiches- don’t think we got those things with chocolate around them.

After finishing my course at Salisbury Polytech and a few jobs later I went back to Umtali where I worked in the Umtali Magistrates’ Court. The two magistrates then, were D Knight and C. Redfern. All court notes were written down in long hand by the presiding magistrate. They, of course, developed a “shorthand” of their own and it was up to me to decipher this and type back? - how things have changed…..

Early childhood was spent walking to the “Umtali Baths”, the little one, opposite the park, and then home again, or visiting the Vaudeville cinema and then later, the awe inspiring new one – THE APOLLO. We gathered here on Saturday mornings, arms laden with comics to swap, to watch such stars as Rock Hudson, Doris Day, Henry Fonda etc. Lovely memories…….
Julie Atkinson Writes:-
Wow! What a brilliant summary of growing up in Umtali, and what a great memory Cindy has! Terrific read. Thanks

Peter Robey Writes:-
Wonderful memories from Cindy !

She mentions Noreen Stapleton, who is my cousin........possibly Cindy remembers me as the spotty little yobbo who used to hang around them sometimes !!

Noreen is in Sasolburg, and I have her address, if Cindy doesn't already know it.

Marguerite (Luff) Brooker Writes:-
Thanks so much for churning up all those lovely memories of Umtali and the people and places.
I don't remember you - most of those you mention were slightly older than me and in those days that made an awful difference! I do remember Frank Kelham (I was in touch with his sister a while back - I think Marion lives somewhere near East London now but have lost touch). Another name I remember is Lee Quirk - I think she was the Headgirl at Marymount when I was there.

The old lady who used to wash her clothes was a Mrs. Ekstein if I remember correctly - she also used to sit in the front left-hand seat of the bus most days when we were on our way to school or town. She was really scarry at the time!!

I have only been back once since I left in 1972 - we were really shocked at the state of the town - especially that area outside Meikles in front of the park - lots of street traders. Anyway I suppose that's change for you!
Take care

Ian Steel Writes:-
I remember Cindy's dad well at UBHS although he never taught me. The old lady that she mentions doing her washing in Meikles, was Mrs. Eksteen. The poor soul did seem a little deranged (she had a huge deep dent in her head apparently from being attacked although I am not sure that it was the cause of her problems?) Far from being the horrible old witch that many people labeled her, she was actually quite nice. I helped her to carry a big box of vegetables back to her house once and she was quite normal and chatty.

Cindy sure has a good memory. I can't remember Rory Hilton's band although he did tell me the name when I was still living in P.E. as we used to see each other every now and then. I last spoke to Tommy Goddard about a year ago (on the phone) and he is living in Jhb.

Great times, those days. please send Joss and Cindy my regards,

John Valentine Writes:-
I remember those times very well, but in the 60's I was in the British Army. The description of Beira and Mocambique caused waves of nostalgia !! I still tell a very unbelieving Canadian audience that we used to get prawns peri peri as a bar snack with our beers at Machipanda ( the railway station) and how the Elton boy got into trouble (as did we all) when he laid out the bull with one punch at the bullfights in Vila Perry. There was a petition going around scolding the Portuguese authorities for using the sjambok on us innocents.

Reg Catterall Writes:-
Good Evening from Perth

Just read a lovely long letter on Umtali and one name brought back a memory. Swailes . I knew Derrick Swailes well. When he worked for, I think, the Electricity Supply Corp.. I stayed several times with him at his home in the Vumba. His Mother had a place just below his on the same large plot. Digressing, he had 3 Bars and didn’t drink. When we stayed there we helped rectify the matter.

One trip there I had car problems before getting into Umtali and needed a tow in. It was on a Saturday so nothing could be done. I stayed over the weekend and on the Monday he took me into town and we took the car to a Garage. He managed to get them to fix my car that day so I was able to get back to Salisbury.. Unfortunately I hadn't the money on me, a few hundred dollars, to pay the Bill so Derek paid it for me . He was a great Guy.

On a sober and sad note…Derek (not certain of the spelling as you will have observed) died a few years ago. I am not certain now whether it was in U.K. or Canada.

Gaynor Hood (Dobell) Writes:-
What an amazing, and interesting letter from Cindy Jordaan,- wow what a memory she has. I've actually printed her letter off, and will keep it always, as a reminder of all the wonderful and privileged times we had in our youth. Thank you so much Cindy for bringing back all those fun memories.
That old batty lady Sandy mentioned was Mrs. Eksten (sp). she was a wonderful piano player in her young days .Story was she was hit on the head with a panga - one could actually see the indent on the side of her scalp - resulting in the way, we all remembered her I can remember her spending hours in the tearoom at Meikles on a Saturday morning going from table to table eating everybody's leftovers! Very sad really.

Tyrone Williams Writes:-
Boy that is one hell of a nostalgic letter, unfortunately I left Umtali in 1959 but remember the over border trips very well. The nice demijohn wines, the spicy snacks etc, with good pals in the likes of Terry Perkins, Chris Moore, Harry Sutherland, Finlay Alison, Ian Odendaal just to mention a few.

Talking about the then in international groups can anyone shed light on a local band we had in Umtali called the Kariba Kids, one of their favourites was MIDNIGHT SPECIAL, that had every one on the floor.

Really as you write more and more comes to mind.

Keep em rollin” You Umtali folk, we love it.

Dave Macdonald Writes:-
Thanks Cindy - so beautifully recollected ...

You mention Jimmy Macdonald (no relation) who became postmaster at Victory Ave Post Office before transferring to Fort Vic. My Mom worked at Vic Ave during the years Telephone Accounts operated from there. Jimmy (a real bachelor lad) was a great guy with friends all over the world. As a kid he used to give me stamps from all his letters - the foundation of my long forgotten but still held stamp collection.

Those were the days my friend, we thought they’d never end
We’d sing and dance for ever and a day
We’d live the life we’d choose, we’d fight – and never lose
For we were young and sure to have our way …..

If only!

Sandy Cox (nee Webster) Writes:-
I loved Cindy story on Umtali, brought tears to my eyes, I remembered all the Girls she wrote about.

Angela Heynes Writes:-
Cindy’s wonderful, evocative posting brought memories flooding back. We were contemporaries. I was at UGHS from 1961 to 65 and then went to work at the post office. I well remember Mr. Harvey and Mr. Ehrke. I’d already started working there before our O level results came in and Mr. Harvey let me open them when they arrived in the post from England. We lived on Third Street (quite close to Mrs. Ecksteen) and I ran home at lunch time to tell my folks I’d passed. (We didn’t have a phone.) My dad worked for the railways and was home that day. Also, Brother Augustine who taught at Carmel College, where my brothers went, was having lunch at our house that day. They all congratulated me and that afternoon my mum brought cakes for everyone to the post office. I remember Frank Kelham. Didn’t he die in an unfortunate accident before the wedding of a couple of other people who worked at the post office? His younger brother, Georgie, was friends with my brother and they’re still in touch. My brother, Jimmy, lives in California and George lives in Canada. My other brother, Brian, lives in Sydney.
I was friends with so many of the people mentioned by Cindy, and went out with quite a few of the boys! When I was going out with Stu (Stodge) McClain my best friend Dianne Ferguson was going out with Eddie Norris. She later married Phil Lennon and moved to Bulawayo. Big groups of us including Clive Schweggman and the Rimmer brothers (Keith, Martin, and ?) went to all those sessions at various church halls when the Silhouettes and Outlaws were playing. For some reason, I particularly remember Tommy Goddard singing “Johnny B Goode.” I think it was the song that got everyone on the floor. I also remember some people – not me, of course – going outside behind the hall and putting brandy in their bottles of Coke. I do remember attempting to smoke at some dance because I thought it made me look grown-up. But it made me sick and I never tried again.
Some other people I was friends with and have often wondered about are Marlene Swanepoel, Juanita and Ian (Ratty) Broadhurst, and Roz Andrews (was a ballet dancer).
One of my enduring memories is playing volley ball at the Catholic youth club on Thursday nights. One night we came out and a group of boys was sitting in a car outside and they told us that they’d heard on the radio that President Kennedy had been shot. I’ve lived in the United States for 30 years and everyone remembers where they were – but I may have one of the more unusual stories.
I’ve become a writer and a few years ago, I wrote a story for The Los Angeles Times newspaper about eating piri piri in Mozambique. Other Beira memories include jumping off the wreck – until my mother found out and had a fit, sneaking out of the chalet window to go to the pavilion after my parents were asleep, meeting people from Salisbury who seemed so much more sophisticated than us. I still have a Chinese teapot and a couple of rice bowls from those Asian shops.
I could go on, but I just wanted to add a little to the collective memory, and look forward to hearing other people’s stories. We are all so scattered – yeah for the internet and thanks to the people who started this

Olga ( nee Udwin) Hounsell Perth Australia Writes:-
I thoroughly enjoyed Cindy's letter as many of her memories were mine too! Thank you for that! The lady who used to wash in the Meikles cloakrooms was Mrs. Ecstein ( sp?) She was one of our Umtali characters. An ex piano teacher I believe. She used to enter all the talent contests - and there were many in Umtali! We would all groan when she came onto play the piano as the poor old thing just would not stop. Often, whoever was organising the concert would finally just bring the curtain down on her - to wild applause from the audience.! Mrs. Ecstein would interpret this as enthusiasm for her playing and enter more contests, feeling she had been cheated of a win, I think! Just some trivia for you and Cindy

Jenny Buxton (nee Barnard) Writes:-
Gee the story written by Cindy Jordaan could have been written by me - we virtually did the exactly same things except it was with Megan, Linda (Harries) and I and we followed Dave Richard's band, called Gypsy at the time I think. George Perhat was on the drums, Doug Kennedy singing, Ralp Pitt, Dave and a few others that used to do various gigs. Mrs. Harries would only trust Teddy Weber to take us to the sessions held at the WI, Queens etc. We had some fab fun times in Umtali during our teenage years.
Keep the fun stories rolling - brings back good memories.

Anthea Laughlin ( nee Hywood) Writes:-
Thanks for the memories, I remember all those and more, I was also in No No Nannette and a few more of the shows at the theatre.

June MacDonald (nee Knight) Melbourne Australia
I could not believe my eyes when I read Cynthia Crapper's article about her memories of Umtali. I remember her well. It was such a blast from the past - a real walk down memory lane. I left in 1965, went back in 1966 for a short stay and never returned. It was a wonderful place to get through our teenage years.
Thank you.

BARCLAYS BANK PHOTO OF 1970
Shirley Van Rensburg Writes:-
I am in the pic but never seen it before!! Brings back many happy memories of my working days at Barclay's Bank Umtali.
Thanks

Rogan Webster Writes:-
What a pleasant surprise this photograph is !!!!
I, in the same period was at Netherlands Bank of Rhodesia and daily interacted with Miss A. N. M. Hardman (Trustee Branch), of Barclay's.
Would you have any idea at all how I may contact her please?
That would be a wonderful outcome.
Thanks in anticipation.
Best regards.


MISSING PERSON
John Graham Writes:-
Does anyone know where Alex (Alexandra) Hardman is?

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