SCALIBOR COLLARS

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Wendy

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Sep 11, 2009, 8:03:36 AM9/11/09
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Hi, has anyone had any experience of using scalibor collars on their
Vizslas? I put one on my girl, Poppy and the next day both her ears
were inflammed and v.itchy. She is not prone to ear infections as we
are very careful to clean her ears regularly and just wondered if this
was some sort of reaction. I have removed the collar for now and am
treating her ears accordingly.

Regards,
Wendy & Poppy

Pam Joyce

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Sep 11, 2009, 11:12:43 AM9/11/09
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Hi Wendy

I'd never heard of these so I looked it up on the internet to find that they
are prescription items. You should take Poppy back to your vet quickly so
that he/she can see the adverse reaction before it subsides.

It does not surprise me as many dogs have bad reactions to spot on flea
treatments. If I go near a dog that has been treated with some of these my
face swells!

Hope the inflammmation settles down soon.

regards
Pam
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Chrissie Diron

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Sep 11, 2009, 10:51:16 PM9/11/09
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Sounds like a classic adverse reaction to me Wendy. Please do not put that back on her. If your vet gave this to you, you should have been given the data sheet to accompany it, which I will now provide for you below. These collars contain chemicals that can be very harmful and you should have been made aware of possible adverse reactions etc before you put this on Poppy. I hope her skin and ears calm down soon and you have no lasting problems to worry about. Ironically, the pesticide (deltamethrin) in the collar is less likely to be the source of the problem (although noted to be a neurotoxin of moderate toxicity in mammals!) - it's the plasticizer in the collar which is more offensive.

Please be sure to report the reaction to the vet and manufacturer or they will continue to advertise such reactions as "rare". I am constantly amazed that these things can be marketed as so harmless to our animals when the toxicology classification reads "harmful, irritant" and the known risks associated with are "harmful by inhalation" and "harmful in contact with skin" (http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/TR/triphenyl_phosphate.html). This is something that goes around a neck and is highly likely to be in contact with skin and the neck is very near to organs of inhalation, not to mention contact and inhalation by any other poor creature getting close to the item! My rule is if it isn't safe for me to wear or touch with bare hands, then it's not safe for my dog. 

You might also be interested in this nice website that assesses the risk and danger of various ingredients included in cosmetics (www.cosmeticsdatabase.com). Triphenyl phosphate is listed there and scores a 7 (high hazard) - I see no reason that it should be any less dangerous for my dog: www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient.php?ingred06=706709&nothanks=1

Here's the manufacturer's data sheet for that product (www.intervet.co.uk/Products_Public/Scalibor_Collar/090_Product_Datasheet.asp):

Scalibor Collar Data Sheet

Presentation

Collar for small and medium-sized dogs.  This white collar, 48 cm in length (19 g) contains 4.0% deltamethrin which corresponds to 0.76 g deltamethrin per collar.

 

Collar for large dogs.  This white collar, 65 cm in length (25 g) contains 4.0% deltamethrin which corresponds to 1.0 g deltamethrin per collar.

 

Uses 

Control of infestations with ticks (Ixodes ricinus; Rhipicephalus sanguineus) for 5 to 6 months.

Control of blood sucking by phlebotomine sand flies (Phlebotomus perniciosus) for a period of   5 to 6 months.

Anti-feeding effect on adult mosquitoes of the species Culex pipiens for 6 months.

 

Dosage and administration

The 48cm collar is to be used on small and medium-sized dogs.  The 65 cm collar is to be used on large dogs.

 

For fastening around the neck.  One collar per dog.  For external use only.

 

Remove the collar from the sealed protective sachet.  Adjust the collar around the animal’s neck without tightening it too tight.  Two fingers side-by side should fit between the band and the dog’s neck. 

Slide the end through the buckle and cut off any excess length extending beyond 5 cm.

 

Contra-indications, warnings, etc.

Do not use in puppies less than 7 weeks of age.

Do not use on dogs with skin lesions.

Do not use on dogs known to be hypersensitive to pyrethroids. Do not use on cats.

In rare cases localised skin lesions, localised dermatitis or erythema, pruritus and hair loss can be observed. In case of skin lesions remove the collar until symptoms have resolved.

In extremely rare cases neurological signs such as tremor and lethargy have been reported.  If this occurs, the collar should be removed.  These symptoms usually subside within 48 hours. 

In the unlikely event of the dog eating the collar the following symptoms may occur: uncoordinated movements, tremor, drooling of saliva, vomiting, rigidity of the hindquarters.

These symptoms usually subside within 48 hours.

Treatment can only be symptomatic, as there is no specific antidote known. Diazepam can be used for symptomatic treatment if necessary.  Do not use with other ectoparasiticides containing organophosphates.

As the collar exerts its full effect after one week, the collar should be applied 1 week before animals are likely to become exposed to infestation.

While occasional contact with water does not reduce the effectiveness of the collar, it should be removed before swimming and bathing the dog because the active substance is harmful to fish and other aquatic organisms.  Dogs must be prevented from swimming in water for the first five days of wearing the collar.

In rare cases attachment of ticks can occur while wearing the collar.  Under unfavourable conditions the transmission of infectious diseases through ticks or sand flies can therefore not be ruled out entirely.

 

Not to be used on food-producing animals.

 

Operator warnings:

Wash hands with soap and cold water after fitting the collar.

Do not use this product if you are allergic to triphenyl phosphate.

 

Avoid letting children, in particular those under 2 years old, touch the collar, play with it or put it into their mouth.

Care should be taken not to allow young children to have prolonged intensive contact, e.g. sleeping with a pet wearing a collar.

Keep the sachet with the collar in the outer carton until use.

 

FOR ANIMAL TREATMENT ONLY.  KEEP OUT OF REACH AND SIGHT OF CHILDREN.

 

Pharmaceutical precautions

The collar, sealed inside the foil sachet, should be stored in the outer carton.

Deltamethrin is harmful to fish, other aquatic organisms and bees.

 

Dispose of empty packaging and any remaining product in the household refuse.

 

Legal category

 

POM-V           To be supplied only on veterinary prescription. 

 

Package quantities

Carton containing one 48 cm collar.

Carton containing one 65 cm collar.

 

Further information

May be used during both pregnancy and lactation.

 

Marketing Authorisation numbers

48 cm collar: Vm 01708/4482

65 cm collar: Vm 01708/4481

 

Marketing Authorisation holder

Intervet UK Ltd.

Walton Manor

Walton

Milton Keynes

MK7 7AJ

 

Date of text preparation:

July 2008.

 


With Woof! Wags! Wiggles!
From Chrissie and the Vitali Vizslas

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Elaine Cannon

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Sep 12, 2009, 4:56:35 AM9/12/09
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Reading the indications for use I am extremely surprised at the need for such a collar being used in the UK!  I would have thought the only risk in this country would possibly be from ticks, however, for a tick infestation to become a problem it would likely to have been something very drastic, when I have been in areas where I have thought there may be a possibility of ticks being a risk (when I've been to Scotland in sheep/deer country) I have, reluctantly used a topical application (Frontline) as a one-off application, however, I am not aware of problems with sandflies or mosquitoes - although this may be a problem with travel abroad.
 
Wendy, I agree with Chrissie, you must report this back to your vet and insist that they report it to the manufacturer who are legally obliged to include in regular safety updates to the regulatory authority, you can also report it directly to the manufacturer, however, it will need a vets confirmation that the adverse event was possibly caused by the collar to make it a valid report.  I work in the pharmaceutical industry (human health) and unfortunately the under-reporting of adverse events with drugs is not unusual but it is reliant upon healthcare professionals (by that doctors or vets) providing the reports to the company.
 
It is, however, an unescapable fact that all drugs have potential for adverse effects but the risk of an adverse event must be weighed up against the benefit to the patient, and whilst there may be an occasional patient who experiences one or more of the recognised (or sometimes not recognised) effects which would require the discontinuation of the drug others may have no problems at all, this is the same in humans as well as in our animals.
 
Please report this event to Intervet, you can provide your vets details to them and they will follow-up with him for further information and confirmation of the events, however, you really must take Poppy back to the vet and show him what has happened following use of this collar to enable your vet to give a full picture. 
 
Hope that Poppy soon recovers.
 
Elaine
Highforce Hungarian Vizslak, UK

Radar Red Dog

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Sep 12, 2009, 7:49:45 AM9/12/09
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Hi Wendy

I'm so sorry that Poppy's had this reaction to the collar...I
completely agree with what Chrissie & Elaine said - I was in the
pharmaceutical industry (again, human!) for 25 years & it's vitally
important that this adverse reaction is reported.

Just a thought though on an alternative preventative measure for fleas/
ticks - despite my background ( or maybe inspite!!), I'm always loathe
to use chemicals on Radar. I use Neem or garlic oil to prevent fleas &
ticks. Neem oil is perfect but very smelly (a bit like strong onion
soup!) but I buy Neem with Lemongrass which doesn't smell bad at all.
I just put a couple of sprays on Radar before walks in tick areas (we
live adjacent to the New Forest where they're prevalent) - one on the
back of his neck and one on his chest...result...no ticks, or if they
do go on him they don't attach. Garlic oil can also be used in the
similar way.

JIMHO of course.

Juliet

On Sep 12, 9:56 am, "Elaine Cannon" <highforce.gund...@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
> Reading the indications for use I am extremely surprised at the need for such a collar being used in the UK!  I would have thought the only risk in this country would possibly be from ticks, however, for a tick infestation to become a problem it would likely to have been something very drastic, when I have been in areas where I have thought there may be a possibility of ticks being a risk (when I've been to Scotland in sheep/deer country) I have, reluctantly used a topical application (Frontline) as a one-off application, however, I am not aware of problems with sandflies or mosquitoes - although this may be a problem with travel abroad.
>
> Wendy, I agree with Chrissie, you must report this back to your vet and insist that they report it to the manufacturer who are legally obliged to include in regular safety updates to the regulatory authority, you can also report it directly to the manufacturer, however, it will need a vets confirmation that the adverse event was possibly caused by the collar to make it a valid report.  I work in the pharmaceutical industry (human health) and unfortunately the under-reporting of adverse events with drugs is not unusual but it is reliant upon healthcare professionals (by that doctors or vets) providing the reports to the company.
>
> It is, however, an unescapable fact that all drugs have potential for adverse effects but the risk of an adverse event must be weighed up against the benefit to the patient, and whilst there may be an occasional patient who experiences one or more of the recognised (or sometimes not recognised) effects which would require the discontinuation of the drug others may have no problems at all, this is the same in humans as well as in our animals.
>
> Please report this event to Intervet, you can provide your vets details to them and they will follow-up with him for further information and confirmation of the events, however, you really must take Poppy back to the vet and show him what has happened following use of this collar to enable your vet to give a full picture.
>
> Hope that Poppy soon recovers.
>
> Elaine
> Highforce Hungarian Vizslak, UKwww.freewebs.com/highforce
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Chrissie Diron
>   To: ukvi...@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 3:51 AM
>   Subject: Re: SCALIBOR COLLARS
>
>   Sounds like a classic adverse reaction to me Wendy. Please do not put that back on her. If your vet gave this to you, you should have been given the data sheet to accompany it, which I will now provide for you below. These collars contain chemicals that can be very harmful and you should have been made aware of possible adverse reactions etc before you put this on Poppy. I hope her skin and ears calm down soon and you have no lasting problems to worry about. Ironically, the pesticide (deltamethrin) in the collar is less likely to be the source of the problem (although noted to be a neurotoxin of moderate toxicity in mammals!) - it's the plasticizer in the collar which is more offensive.
>
>   Please be sure to report the reaction to the vet and manufacturer or they will continue to advertise such reactions as "rare". I am constantly amazed that these things can be marketed as so harmless to our animals when the toxicology classification reads "harmful, irritant" and the known risks associated with are "harmful by inhalation" and "harmful in contact with skin" (http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/TR/triphenyl_phosphate.html). This is something that goes around a neck and is highly likely to be in contact with skin and the neck is very near to organs of inhalation, not to mention contact and inhalation by any other poor creature getting close to the item! My rule is if it isn't safe for me to wear or touch with bare hands, then it's not safe for my dog.
>
>   You might also be interested in this nice website that assesses the risk and danger of various ingredients included in cosmetics (www.cosmeticsdatabase.com). Triphenyl phosphate is listed there and scores a 7 (high hazard) - I see no reason that it should be any less dangerous for my dog:www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient.php?ingred06=706709¬hanks=1
>
>   Here's the manufacturer's data sheet for that product (www.intervet.co.uk/Products_Public/Scalibor_Collar/090_Product_Datash...
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Linda

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Sep 22, 2009, 11:07:31 AM9/22/09
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Hi Wendy
I am a bit late with catching up on this as I have just got back from
holiday but just to say that about 4 years ago we were taking our boy
to France and I used a pet agency to advise me and to arrange the
appointment with a vet for the check up on the way back. Anyway they
insisted that France would require him to wear a Scalibor collar, I
had never heard of them but thought I had better get one and was told
to let him wear it a week before leaving.By about the 3rd or 4th day
of the holiday he was scratching at it and did not stop to the point
where his neck was really red and sore. I was told this would protect
him from the mosquito bites which could be fatal so was really worried
but had to remove it and spent days running around chemists and health
shops trying to get something to soothe it. Fortunatly it improved
very quickly once the collar was removed but never again!
I do hope Poppy is better by now.
Linda

Wendy

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Sep 28, 2009, 8:41:53 AM9/28/09
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Hi and thanks to everyone who posted advice. Poppy's ears took a good
4-5 days to clear up but thankfully she's back to her normal bouncy
self now. I rang my vet to ask if this could be a possible side
effect and she said it was unlikely! I shall definitely go back to
them and the manufacturers as has been recommended to let them know.
The vet in France did not make any remarks about her not wearing a
scalibor collar but I definitely won't ever use one again.

Regards, Wendy & Poppy
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