ITCHY RASH

[Wendy]

Hi, my 6-month old boy Hamish has got an itchy rash on the inside of
his back legs, either side. He's had it for a week or so and it
wasn't too bad initially so I've been keeping an eye on it but he is
scratching it a lot more now. Its not red and angry, more just bumps
but its obviously annoying him. Any ideas as to what I can put on it
to help alleviate the itching or should I get it checked out? He is
his usual bouncy self, is on Fish4Dogs food (which is supposed to be
hypo-allergenic). They have both (within the last couple of weeks)
been to the beach, in woods and fields. He is due his flea treatment
so I will do that but haven't noticed the rash on my girl.

Any advice would be appreciated. Regards, Wendy

[Penny Simpson]

Hi Wendy

where have you been with your dog just prior to the rash appearing

Penny

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[Elaine Bradley]

Hi Wendy

Sounds like Hamish has possibly had an allergic reaction to something he's
come into contact with, probably from running in the fields. I've had that
with a couple of mine in the past, particularly at this time of the year
when they've been running in the wheat or barley fields. I just bathe the
affected area with something like tea tree lotion and if its particularly
bothersome ie itching then I will give them an antihistamine. My
antihistamine of choice is Clarityn (loratadine), I give the adult dogs one
tablet (10mg) which is the same as the once-daily adult dose in humans.

The only time I've taken them to the vets is if the rash gets infected,
which it can, and becomes pus filled, then they need antibiotics just to
help clear it up.

Hope he's feeling less itchy soon!!

Elaine
Highforce Hungarian Vizslak, UK
www.freewebs.com/highforce

[sqd...@me.com]

Can you put Aloe Vera gel on dogs?
Suzie

(Ella, Alice & William)

[Boris]

Could be stinging nettle rash.....try some calamine lotion to sooth
the itching

[Radar & Rio Dorset Red Dogs]

Hi Wendy

I'm wondering if Hamish has been regularly running through ferns or
some other plant that is pollen-rich at the moment? My older boy came
out in bumpy welts when he was younger having run through ferns at
this time of year...obviously some sort of allergy but it didn't last
very long (hours rather than days). I don't recall the bumps being
itchy but I used Neem lotion on them straight away &, as I said, they
disappeared really quickly & he's never had the problem again.

If they're not getting any better I'd probably be inclined to check
with his vet though someone else on this forum may well have some
other good advice!

Good luck.

Juliet

On Jun 7, 9:01 am, Wendy <wssea...@btinternet.com> wrote:

[Gunfield]

I would gues its contact as well mine get it when the farmers have put
fertiliser down, another thing is sand rash from running in and out
the sea and sand,
Udder cream like this- http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Udder-Cream-125kg/productinfo/5027286028004/
is quite effective but if its angry or disturbing a visit to the vet
is in order.
kate

On Jun 7, 9:01 am, Wendy <wssea...@btinternet.com> wrote:

[Sue Millson]

The other thing that works very well if the rash is on their stomachs
-is an astringent like "Witch Hazel" if the rash is only at the rash
stage. Just splash it on as if it was a cologne - and let it dry on its
own. Helps cool the skin and not harmful to the Viz if they want to lick
it -(although better if they dont !!! as better on than in!!)
Often if persistent you can use a light barrier cream across the areas
that are exposed to "what ever it is they are brushing against" This
time of year Rape is the big culprit and young wheat/barley etc also the
young nettles are a devil poking out of grasses if the dogs are not used
to working through them.
Also I have had a few phone calls from people who are saying their
Vizsla eyes are mucky -again it is probably a mixture of dust & pollen.
What works very well is a few drops of Optrex eye drops each eye morning
and last thing at night. It is only purified Witch Hazel so again
harmless but beneficial.
The normal discharge can be whitish or slightly brownish colour but if
cloudy then it could be an eye infection and needs checking out with the
vet.
Sue

[Sue Millson]

I would wait for his rash to settle before you "flea treat him" as his immune system is already battling against a reaction to something. A few days will not make a lot of difference.
Or consider getting him on some Garlic as this also has the desired effect on fleas etc once established in his system.

Sue

[Elaine Bradley]

Yes you can Suzie plus it won't do any harm if they lick it off, but as Sue
said in one of her posts, better on than in!!

Elaine

[Radar & Rio Dorset Red Dogs]

Hi Suzie

Yes you can put aloe vera gel on your girls & boy...if they do lick
it, it won't hurt them!!

Juliet

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[Wendy]

Hi thanks so much for all your suggestions and advice.

He's been running in the fields charging about where there are ferns,
nettles and wheat and he's not very tall at the moment only being six
months old so I think that's what it might be too. I'm off to get
some calomine lotion and barrier cream.

Thanks again, Wendy

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[sqd...@me.com]

Thank you!! That's good to know as I'm a big fan of Aloe for humans!!
Suzie.x.

[Sue Millson]

Wendy
One thing I do have in my "Dog first aid kit" is (and I forgot to
mention it on the last posting is -
Dorwests "Comfrey & Calendula Balm" very good for an assortment of skin
problems.
I was reminded I had some as I got through the post their News letter-
which you get when you become a member also allows you to have a 10%
discount on everything.
At present it is a �1 off. so a tub is �4,50 and you do not need to use
much - and it acts as a barrier cream as well as a soother.
Their telephone number is -01308 897272 and they will if you want one
send you their catalogue of the herbal preparations they make.
They are world renowned so are a reputable firm.
Many preparations they make can do away with some of the chemicals we
pour in and on our poor dogs.
Sue

> Hi thanks so much for all your suggestions and advice.
>
> He's been running in the fields charging about where there are ferns,
> nettles and wheat and he's not very tall at the moment only being six
> months old so I think that's what it might be too. I'm off to get
> some calomine lotion and barrier cream.
>
> Thanks again, Wendy
>
> On Jun 8, 6:20 pm, "Elaine Bradley"<highforce.gund...@ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>> Yes you can Suzie plus it won't do any harm if they lick it off, but as Sue
>> said in one of her posts, better on than in!!
>>
>> Elaine
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>> Subject: Re: ITCHY RASH
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>>> Can you put Aloe Vera gel on dogs?
>>> Suzie

>>> (Ella, Alice& William)

[Elaine Bradley]

They are also on-line - www.dorwest.com

[Sue Millson]

I think the first time it would be best to speak to one of the Vet
advisers at Dorwest- so Wendy can discuss the problem with them- they
may suggest something to boost the immune system to help the "Itch
season" which as many of us know -comes round each year.
Their web site is very good once you have an idea of what you want. But
they are very are very helpful if you need to talk to them.
Would be interested to know Wendy what you decide to go for and if it
works as it will be helpful for others in the same position maybe. we
all have our pet remedies -but it never hurts to add a few more to the
arsenal. Hope the itch settles soon!!!
Sue

[Elaine Bradley]

Sue

I wouldn't disagree but I only provided the website details so that Wendy
(or anyone else for that matter) could have a look at what great
supplements, etc Dorwest have to offer, posting this (what I thought might
be helpful info) was only supposed to be of further help, in no way was I
suggesting this was the only way, nor that Wendy or anyone else shouldn't
contact them directly for advice on exactly what may be the best treatment
options for any particular problem! How would you know what you want
without having a look in the first place, particularly as they described
very in-depth what each product is useful for (pretty much like their
catalogue which you suggested!)

I have used Dorwest for many years and have always found them extremely
helpful both at the shows where they often have a stand, on the phone, or
on-line.

I always feel it is useful to have a look at options myself and then discuss
it further with the experts, as they say knowledge is power and we also have
a responsibility to understand what we are doing/giving to our dogs, not
just to blindly accept what the so called "experts" tell us as it isn't
necessarily always the best advice and it's always better to be able to
knowledgeably discuss options.

Elaine

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[sqd...@me.com]

Dear All -

I know this has been a string on the emails before, but I can't work
out how to find it on the website (sorry - probably being a dolt) but
wanted advice on the best dog insurance.

I also wanted advice about this...

My little Ella has problems with her lady parts. When she arrived with
me she had suspected cystitis (weeing every 20-30 secs, lots of
straining to produce very little actual wee, trembling legs etc) and
was treated conservatively with a low dose antibiotic for five days
which improved things noticeably very quickly.

A week later she had green gunge coming from those lady parts and
started the straining and frequent weeing again plus washing of her
poor parts. More antibiotics. Three days after that - more green
gunge. Basically the antibiotics had started to work but the course
wasn't long enough to actually kill the bacteria - so she's been put
on another 10 days worth.

Obviously I've got everything crossed that this longer course will
finally clear up the infection for my little girl, but I am worried
about the effect all these antibiotics are having on her system. Does
anyone have any suggestions for boosting her own immune system and
also for replacing all the good stomach flora that antibiotics kill off.

FYI she is 13 weeks old and very exuberant and happy in herself.

Also FYI, I understand that often vaginitis in puppies is left to run
its course naturally. The reason Ella was treated is because the gunge
became very green and much more copious plus she was uncomfortable and
constantly needing to strain to wee. I was in touch with the vet
constantly about this and they took the decision that it needed to be
treated. I fully agreed with this decision and she has been much
happier and bouncier since she's been on the medication.

Thanks for any and all advice

Suzie, Ella, Alice & William.x.

[Susie Zarpanely]

Hi Suzie
 
I always give a probiotic after or towards the end of an a/b course usually in the form of  a live yoghurt. Either as a treat before bed time or a good dollop on their food
 
Susie

[sqd...@me.com]

Thanks Susie - I will do this.

Suzie

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[Chrissie Diron]

Hi Suzie

Some good advice on dealing with this can be found here: www.greatdanelady.com/articles/vaginitis_puppy_acne_demodectic_mange.htm

Probiotics are what you need to counteract the impact of the antibiotics and I would always run them concurrently with any antibiotics and for a while after any course has finished. Probiotics are ONLY GOOD bacteria, which you want in your body, whereas the antibiotics indiscriminately take out many good bacteria along with the bad overgrowth. That good bacteria can find it hard to repopulate, so you need to help them out, or you stand a good chance that the bad will outnumber them and then you have a new set of problems. Don't wait until after ABs to get the probiotics going - you will already have a significant imbalance situation if you do and then it's harder for the body to adjust. Good bacteria do not interfere with antibiotics - you are helping them to keep their number up in a challenging situation, that's all. I, personally, prefer to use soil-based probiotics, as many dogs don't tolerate dairy well. Just feeding yoghurt, for example, is not likely to give you sufficient numbers of the right bacteria either. My suggestion would be a product like Primal Defense (google it for a UK supplier) or seek another local brand of homeostatic soil organisms (these are naturally occurring and would be the sort of things a dog would get into via dirt and food etc). But any probiotic is better than none.

If it were my dog I would also be looking to boost the immune system, as the young developing system is clearly overloaded and the bacteria have been able to get out of control. My recommendation would be bovine colostrum, also known as Transfer Factors. I believe you can order most these things from www.grandmalovesthedog.com. In a young developing pup any intervention is stressful and potentially burdening on the immune system, so please don't be vaccinating this girl whilst she's in treatment! You already have an immunocompromised situation and any vet administering vaccines is working against manufacturer's instructions. It may totally topple her system - please be careful and build her up to good health before any other challenges. 

Hope she's soon over her discomfort!

From Chrissie and the Vitali Vizslas

Independent Norwex Consultant
Kick the chemical habit - go green and be clean, naturally! 

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[Wendy]

Hi, just an update on Hamish's rash. I am using a combination of
calomine lotion for the itching and a barrier cream for when we go
over the fields. Its working very well and the rash is a lot better.
I am washing him each time we get home from the fields and applying
calomine lotion, time consuming but definitely worth it.

Thanks for all your advice, Wendy