Tips and questions and a WYSIWYG editor.

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Nique

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Feb 3, 2011, 5:38:11 AM2/3/11
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Hello (again),

I must say, this library is full of potential. It loads very very
quickly, and there are no lags (like in other libraries) when clicking
on buttons or moving them around. They respond instantly!

Now, that said, i think that ukiJS needs more examples for people to
get them started. I'm trying to create a wysiwyg editor with the help
of ukiJS. I really have no idea where to start as all the examples
have different approaches..

For a wysiwy editor i need to make components like
- multi toolbars (without the more button)
- icon (toggle) buttons (without text)
- icon buttons (with text)
- icon supported combobox

The skeleton probably would be:
-Editor
--VFlow
---Toolbars (A MultilineToolbar (probably need to use VFlow))
----Toolbar 1
----Toolbar 2
---EditArea (html=MultilineTextField, wysiwyg=ScrollPane)
---StatusBar
--(end of vflow)
-(end of editor)

Because of the fact that UkiJS is a really quick library, i think a
wysiwyg editor (for end users) that respons so quickly can beat all
the other 'mega pack' wysiwyg editors. It would be user-friendly and
fast, like if you are in a normal word processor.

For the beginning, i just want to make some basic components. But
where to start? I know how i have to make an 'application'. I am on
Windows 7, so no MAC editors available to me.

I think also, a better name for the uki-more folder would be: uki-
components

Do you have a very simple example on how to make a 'icon' only toggle
button? (24x24).

If you (or any other guys) have anything to add , please do so. I
think Uki is being underestimated in the public domain. It just needs
a bigger community, the core is very, very well designed.

Maimonides

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Feb 3, 2011, 7:32:35 AM2/3/11
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What you are asking for are simple things. Toggle Button should take
care of your icon problem. Or you can do it for basic image component
and click event easily enough.
I found out, that best source of example is the ( mac )mail demo
project.

David

Nique

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Feb 3, 2011, 9:03:14 AM2/3/11
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Indeed, thanks for mention it, i'm currently watching the mail app
source. It made use of the tools.
I would recommend a 'source' link on the main page.

Are there any plans for upgrading the main site? A ask/question
application rolling in the back would be nice.

Sincerly

nevf

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Feb 3, 2011, 3:18:05 PM2/3/11
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It is a pity but my feelings are that Uki.js joins a long list of
abandon-ware. The Blog hasn't been updated in almost a year and the
original developer is not active in this group, or elsewhere.

Further the following issues have stopped me using Uki.
- Very poor documentation.
- No Documentation at all for Uki-data, Uki-more, Uki-theme, Uki-touch
etc.
- The requirement to use absolute positioning for views etc. makes it
too difficult to move views and set them up correctly in the first
place.
- Limited functionality in various controls such as Tree.

I think Uki has great potential, but I personally can't recommend it,
in its current state.

Neville

Drew Whitehouse

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Feb 3, 2011, 5:22:04 PM2/3/11
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I'm currently moving away from using ukijs (to JQuery) at the moment for this reason. It's such a shame that the development didn't continue as it is hands down the best structured toolkit I've used. Vladimir is an extremely clever programmer and I'm sure that Facebook are now benefitting from his expertise, we can only hope that he's building a super ukijs for them and that it will be open sourced sometime in the future, not holding my breath on that one. You can't blame the developer though, he has a living to make and ukijs must have been an enormous amount of work. Look how far he got on his own and compare it to the current status of JQueryUI. Let's hope some other front end JS wizards with commercial support take up the challenge of taking ukijs forward, or at least learn from it's elegance when developing other frameworks.

-Drew
--
Drew Whitehouse
ANU Supercomputer Facility Vizlab


Maimonides

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Feb 9, 2011, 5:43:50 AM2/9/11
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Its opensource and perfectly useful as it is.

On Feb 3, 11:22 pm, Drew Whitehouse <Drew.Whiteho...@anu.edu.au>
wrote:

Johan Rydberg

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Feb 9, 2011, 5:50:43 AM2/9/11
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Yes, lets not put the blame on the original author.  Fork it on github, improve it,
and lets see what happens.

Yoz Grahame

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Mar 7, 2011, 1:05:07 AM3/7/11
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On Thursday, February 3, 2011 12:18:05 PM UTC-8, nevf wrote:
It is a pity but my feelings are that Uki.js joins a long list of
abandon-ware. The Blog hasn't been updated in almost a year and the
original developer is not active in this group, or elsewhere.

UKI JS development is still going strong. Check https://github.com/voloko/uki/commits/master for all Vladimir's recent commits - looks like he's making strong progress towards 0.4. I agree, however, that it'd be good to get other committers onto the project, if only for safety's sake.

-- Yoz

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