Right Command key like right Option key and right Option key like right Command key
Christopher Romanowski
Sorin Paliga
Christopher Romanowski
Sorin Paliga
Thanks, but the DoubleCommand can only switch both, right and left, Command key. I want to switch only right key. Is there any possibility to do this?
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Geke
wrote:
> key. I want to switch only right key. Is there any possibility to do this?
cannot:
Ukelele can only take a complete keystroke coming from the keyboard
and modify it.
So for example you type Cmd+A, the keyboard sends a code for that to
the computer, and the keyboard layout (made by Ukelele, e.g.) changes
that code into a character for the screen etc.
The Cmd key is not a normal key, it only modifies the output coming
from other keys. In other words: pressing the Command key is not a
complete keystroke, so it cannot be modified by Ukelele.
In principle, you can use Ukelele to create a keyboard layout with
separate left and right Cmd and Option keys, so that different tables
are used for Left Cmd+A and Right Cmd+A. Then you could change the two
result tables independently of each other, and in that way achieve
what you want. But:
1. This is a lot of work!
2. In many programs, this doesn't work anyway, because they ignore the
separate tables and look in the table for the Left Cmd key even if the
right one was pressed. I forgot the details; there is something about
it in the Ukelele tutorial and/or manual.
I'm curious to know why you want this arrangement, with swapped right
modifier keys?
Geke
I just realized that it's not much work at all, because after
separating the tables, you can link the keystrokes involving the right
Cmd key to the tables for the right Option key, etc.
Still, I'd recommend reading the manual/tutorial to get the full
picture before starting on it.
John Brownie
I would strongly advise against trying to do this, as it is really
unsupported by Apple. Cocoa does not pass on information about left and
right modifier keys to applications. Carbon theoretically could, but no
currently supported Apple keyboard actually does distinguish between
left and right modifier keys.
The capability is there in Ukelele because it is there in the underlying
technology that Apple produces. If in some future version of the
operating system and/or hardware this capability is useful, then it is
nice to have. For the present, though, it is usually pointless to try
separating the left and right modifier keys.
A different possibility for the original question is KeyRemap4MacBook
(http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/), which works at a different
level, similar to DoubleCommand, and may be what Christopher wants. I
have not investigated it myself, but it could be useful.
John
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Geke
Especially that link could be valuable, as this kind of questions are
coming up rather often.