Logitech K120 French

[Stéphan Bondier]

Hi guys.

I had to replace my original iMac (2005) keyboard after some "dog hits arm holding coffee" kind of accident a few days ago. Hence I bought a Logitech K120 French. I'm quite happy with Logitech hardware for years and in general use their mice as replacement parts. Yesterday i discovered some keys are misplaced or missing and took a few hours to find what was possible to do with it this morning. Being stuck with Mac Os 10.6.8 is a problem too. 

I found Ukulele and quickly started a key mapping to fit my needs. It's a nice piece of software (2.2.8, obviously). Nothing difficult so far, but the keyboard type. I can't seem to find a corresponding match for my keyboard. This is a PC keyboard, hence it has the extra "alt gr" key on the right side of the spacebar, and curiously, on French PC keyboards, we only have a longer "+" key on the numpad, meaning there is on key less there.

If any one can help about that point, I'll be quite happy.

Once done, I'll make this layout public, as I suppose many people could use it.

Thanks.

Stef

[Stéphan Bondier]

Error: missing key is not "alt gr", but a some kind of a "droplist" key (a rectangle with 3 horizontal strokes), never seen it on Windows keyboards so far. It's located between right Windows/Command and CTRL keys.

Can we have ALT GR to work independently from Left ALT key? had not been digging much into the doc yet, busy vacations= ;-)

Cheers.

Stef 

[Sorin Paliga]

UKELELE cannot handle system keys. My piece of advice is to buy a new keyboard, but if you insist to use it, download Karabiner and make the changes you wish.

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[Stéphan Bondier]

Ukelele will be very fine for what I'm expecting to do. I don't plan to buy another keyboard.

Karabiner is 10.9+ only. Tested earlier (KeyRemap4MacBook) versions but without success.

Stef

[Sorin Paliga]

If yuo want to change the system keys, like the one you mention (3 horizontal lines) you cannot do this with UKELELE.

[Gé van Gasteren]

Dear Stéphan,

A custom keyboard layout file you make with Ukelele will work with every keyboard, even if the layout you see in Ukelele’s window is not matching your hardware, or if some of the hardware keyboard’s keys are not shown at all.

In other words: if the editing window in Ukelele looks like your hardware keyboard, it’s nice, because that way it’s more comfortable editing the custom layout, but that’s it.

So for easy editing, you should experiment with the different Keyboard Types (I’d suggest USB Pro Keyboard) until you find one that is close to your actual hardware, but don’t worry if it’s not completely the same.

There is a way in Ukelele to edit key assignments for keys that are currently not shown, and that is by going by "keycode". If you know the keycode of a key that is not shown, you can still edit its assigned characters that way.

When you use a Windows hardware keyboard on the Mac, the Option and Command keys are usually swapped (compared to Apple keyboards). That is something you can repair in the System Preferences under Keyboard / Modifier Keys.

In theory, one can assign different characters to e.g. Left Option + K and Right Option + K, but in practice, that is better to avoid. It doesn’t work in many applications, for example.

That "droplist" key is the Windows Menu key. Unfortunately, that key doesn’t do anything when you connect the keyboard to a Mac.

Good luck!