backquote tilde key code 10 key not working for Hebrew diacritic

[Mark David]

What could be wrong here?  I defined Option+` (i.e., Option+GRAVE_ACCENT) to insert the Hebrew diacritic character U+05B0 [ְ] HEBREW_POINT_SHEVA. I see it in the Ukelele editor (see screenshot below). I see it, I think, in the XML file (see screenshot below). But after installing, when I try to type Option+`, no character gets entered. When I view that character in Keyboard Viewer, it's blank. Any clues or ideas or workarounds? Thanks,

-Mark

[Gé van Gasteren]

On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 6:31 PM Mark David <mhd...@gmail.com> wrote:

What could be wrong here? 

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the detailed description, especially the screenshot of your actual keyboard!

As you can see, the displayed diagram in Ukelele has an extra key between the left Shift key and the key where the Z is in an English-language layout. This is usually called an ISO-type layout.

But your hardware keyboard is not ISO-type, and the mismatch is what has caused your problem.

The fix:

In Ukelele, choose (from the View menu) View > Keyboard Type… and then on the right side in that window, change the drop-down menu to read ANSI.

(In the list on the left side, you can almost pick any type, but as an example, you can pick Powerbook USB Internal.)

That changes the display, including the key top left on the keyboard, just under the ESC key.

Now edit that key to match your intended use for it.

[Tom]

Do you get the sheva if you type option on the key next to left shift?

[Mark David]

Hi,

I did the fix, and it worked. Thank you!

-Mark

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[Mark David]

Hi Tom,

I tried Gé van Gasteren's fix, and it worked, so I never really tried to see if I get the sheva if I type option on the key next to left shift, but it seems I should be all set for now.

Thanks,

-Mark

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[Gé van Gasteren]

On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 4:35 AM Mark David wrote:

Hi,

I did the fix, and it worked. Thank you!

-Mark

Great!

There’s always a good amount of guesswork involved in remote diagnostics, so thank you for the feedback!

As you don’t seem to have an ISO-type keyboard, I don’t think you can test like Tom suggested.

If you have an external ISO-type keyboard that you can connect to the MacBook, you’ll find that the Sheva is found in two positions on that keyboard:

Your old definition is available again on the top left key, the one below the ESC key.

Your new definition has moved to the key between the left Shift key and the Z key.