post from Alastair

[Mary MacCallum Sullivan]

Dear All

Having trouble with a recent post from Alastair – I don't know why I can't get it approved. 

It's not complete, Alastair, so could you try again?

Hi Mary

That might work well but I think that it is important to have our own

Scottish meeting.  If there is "input from the UKCP team" that might become

the main focus.  It would be a pity if some folk have to leave before we get……. (?)

I think Mary suggested that we meet in Glasgow this time because last year's

meeting was held in Edinburgh.

I can offer a low cost venue in the city centre (Berkeley Street near the

Mitchell Library).

Alastair

[Brion Sweeney]

Mary and Alastair 

Agree with Alastair re venue and ownership of the event. As regards access to google group you might remember i had this problem too it was the email address I was using communications person at UKCP helped me sort it out. 

Kind Regards,

Brion

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[Edith Irwin]

Dear All,

For what it is worth, Alastair's thinking follows my own. Am I right in thinking that the meeting Alastair proposes would be in addition to the one organised from London?  Are dates still open for this one?

If there is only consideration of one meeting here, I would like to encourage Mary to continue with her negotiations to bring as much of the initiative for venue, form and content of the meeting as possible into the hands of the Scottish membership. 

Best wishes from Summers eve in Edinburgh,

Edie Irwin

[Alastair Moodie]

Hi Mary

 

There were two replies from me.  The first was responding to your “provisional proposal” of 26^th June when I commented:

 

“That might work well but I think that it is important to have our own Scottish meeting.  If there is “input from the UKCP team” that might become the main focus.  It would be a pity if some folk have to leave before we get to decision-making.”

 

The second was a response to Courtenay Young who suggested a venue in central Edinburgh – to which I replied:

 

“I think Mary suggested that we meet in Glasgow this time because last year’s meeting was held in Edinburgh.

 

I can offer a low cost venue in the city centre (Berkeley Street near the Mitchell Library).”

 

I hope this helps.

 

Alastair

[Mary MacCallum Sullivan]

Hi Alastair

Thanks, I hope I have the 'spam' question sorted this time. 

 I shall speak to Tim Swain /Lydia Dumont on Thursday about venues – I think turn and turn about between Edinburgh and Glasgow, at least for the moment, is fair, isn't it? But I shall report back after Thursday.

Another question is about the agenda: suggestions, please. I agree that it is important for us in Scotland to set the agenda.  My suggested heading for the day: 'Scottish Psychotherapy: present and future', and I wondered about inviting a Scottish Government minister with responsibility for mental health to speak/listen.  

I would like to hear UKCP officers give an account of their activities on our behalf, but I hope that they would also want to listen to us and hear what our concerns and ambitions are, and be prepared to support us as we organise ourselves…

Regards to all

Mary

[Courtenay Young]

Dear All

I am not totally familiar with the Scottish Intercollegiate Guidelines Network or SIGN (Scottish equivalent of NICE) Guidelines for the Non-Pharmaceutical Management of Depression, but they can be accessed here: http://www.sign.ac.uk/guidelines/fulltext/114/.

It seems that Behavioural Activation, Cognitive-Behavioural Therapy and Interpersonal Therapy are "... recommended as a treatment option for patients with depression" and Problem Solving Therapy and Short-term Psychodynamic Psychotherapy "... may be considered as a treatment option for patients with depression. 

Additionally, "A couple-focused approach should be considered where the current relationship is contributing to the depression, or where involvement of a partner is considered to be of potential therapeutic benefit."

For all the other types of psychotherapy, "there is insufficient evidence on which to base a recommendation."

Structured exercise, Guided self-help (based on CBT or behavioural principles) and (within the structure of guided self help) computerised CBT are also recommended.

It also states that: "A number of common (non-specific) factors are likely to influence the effectiveness of psychological therapies. These may not be fully addressed by randomisation. Factors include the quality of the therapeutic alliance (at various stages of treatment), therapist factors such as competence, genuineness, empathy and positive regard, and patient characteristics such as prior improvement of symptoms, readiness for change and belief in the therapy."

And that: "Practitioners delivering psychological therapies should be trained to approved levels of competency, participate in continuing professional development and be registered with the appropriate governing body. They should be receiving ongoing supervision."

It was interesting to note that there were very few psychotherapists involved in developing these guidelines and there were no representatives from the UKCP. I believe that we could make some greater headway on establishing psychotherapy in Scotland, if we directed some of our group attention to these sorts of issues. 

Another couple of quotes:

10.2 Recommendations for research

For many of the interventions described in this guideline, there was little or no robust published evidence. This was particularly the case for complementary and alternative therapies, nutritional therapies, alcohol reduction and self help groups. In addition to a lack of primary studies on such interventions a number of wider research themes were identified:

* validity of trial designs for psychological therapies ƒ 

* dose-response studies for effective psychological therapies ƒ 

* factors which contribute to drop-out ƒ 

* non-specific treatment factors including patient/therapist interaction ƒ 

* patient selection for psychological therapies ƒ 

* long term effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical interventions ƒ 

* contribution of unstructured exercise to beneficial effects on mood ƒ 

* optimum type of exercise (aerobic, mixed or strength) ƒ 

* how exercise programmes can best be facilitated through primary care.

10.3 Review and updating

This guideline was issued in 2010 and will be considered for review in three years. Any updates to the guideline in the interim period will be noted on the SIGN website: www.sign.ac.uk.

And a caveat: "Adherence to guideline recommendations will not ensure a successful outcome in every case, nor should they be construed as including all proper methods of care or excluding other acceptable methods of care aimed at the same results. The ultimate judgement must be made by the appropriate healthcare professional(s) responsible for clinical decisions regarding a particular clinical procedure or treatment plan. This judgement should only be arrived at following discussion of the options with the patient, covering the diagnostic and treatment choices available. It is advised, however, that significant departures from the national guideline or any local guidelines derived from it should be fully documented in the patient’s case notes at the time the relevant decision is taken."

Surely, we can start to do something a little more constructive here - as well as something beneficial to our profession. Thankfully, we haven't got IAPT to cope with - yet!

Yours

Courtenay Young

PS: I am happy to meet alternatively in Glasgow & Edinburgh, for the moment, but we also need to check out the demographics and see whether Perth, Dundee and/or Stirling have significant populations of psychotherapists.

[Mary MacCallum Sullivan]

Hi Courtenay

This is very useful information indeed, and perhaps we should address this specifically on the agenda for 21st September: that UKCP should propose someone for membership of the relevant SIGN guideline revision group.

Your point is well made about venues; it would be great to hear from group members about suggested venue cities/towns/centres. So where would be good for people who may find it difficult to get to Glasgow or Edinburgh?  Perth/Dundee/Inverness/???

Regards

Mary

[Nirved Wilson]

Hi Courtenay and Mary, I am also happy with alternative Edinburgh/Glasgow, or Stirling, Perth. I appreciate the work you put in there, Courtenay. I think the meeting on 26/9 is a bit premature to invite an MSP but aiming for that at a future meeting would give us a focus to get clear on what we would both want to communicate to, and ask of, the Health Minister or whoever we manage to get. Could people submit items for the agenda now, so that we have time to group common themes, distill and prioritise, so that once again we are not trying to pay attention to too wide a spectrum and not managing to come up with anything well worked through. So my first item: Questions and issues to present to an MSP for future meeting. Agreement who will take this forward. Enjoy the sunshine, everyone. Nirved
Nirved Wilson
nir...@phonecoop.coop
www.alivenessunlimited.co.uk

[Alastair Moodie]

Hi Mary, Courtney and All

 

Firstly, I think it is time to change the subject line!

 

One of the initiatives we can take is to identify psychotherapy research in Scotland or members in Scotland who have research experience.

 

Mark Widdowson who lives in Glasgow and trains in Edinburgh, Kegworth (near Nottingham) and elsewhere has been conducting the efficacy of TA in the treatment of depression.  It uses a case study, qualitative approach.  He is doing the research for a Ph.D. and so it is being properly supervised by a university department.  I’m sure that Mark would be willing to talk about his research if the date is suitable.  Another member of the TA community, Salma Siddique, has an academic research post at Edinburgh Napier University.

 

I would support an autumn meeting that focused on the Scottish scene and was not distracted by having representatives of UKCP Central.

 

Regards

 

Alastair

 

From: ukcpins...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ukcpins...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary MacCallum Sullivan
Sent: 17 July 2013 06:47
To: ukcpins...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [UKCP in Scotland] post from Alastair

 

Hi Courtenay

 

This is very useful information indeed, and perhaps we should address this specifically on the agenda for 21st September: that UKCP should propose someone for membership of the relevant SIGN guideline revision group.

 

Your point is well made about venues; it would be great to hear from group members about suggested venue cities/towns/centres. So where would be good for people who may find it difficult to get to Glasgow or Edinburgh?  Perth/Dundee/Inverness/???

 

Regards

Mary

 

From: Courtenay Young <cour...@courtenay-young.com>

Reply-To: <ukcpins...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, 16 July 2013 22:31
To: <ukcpins...@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: [UKCP in Scotland] post from Alastair

 

Dear All

 

I am not totally familiar with the Scottish Intercollegiate Guidelines Network or SIGN (Scottish equivalent of NICE) Guidelines for the Non-Pharmaceutical Management of Depression, but they can be accessed here: http://www.sign.ac.uk/guidelines/fulltext/114/.

 

It seems that Behavioural Activation, Cognitive-Behavioural Therapy and Interpersonal Therapy are "... recommended as a treatment option for patients with depression" and Problem Solving Therapy and Short-term Psychodynamic Psychotherapy "... may be considered as a treatment option for patients with depression. 

Additionally, "A couple-focused approach should be considered where the current relationship is contributing to the depression, or where involvement of a partner is considered to be of potential therapeutic benefit."

For all the other types of psychotherapy, "there is insufficient evidence on which to base a recommendation."

 

Structured exercise, Guided self-help (based on CBT or behavioural principles) and (within the structure of guided self help) computerised CBT are also recommended.

 

It also states that: "A number of common (non-specific) factors are likely to influence the effectiveness of psychological therapies. These may not be fully addressed by randomisation. Factors include the quality of the therapeutic alliance (at various stages of treatment), therapist factors such as competence, genuineness, empathy and positive regard, and patient characteristics such as prior improvement of symptoms, readiness for change and belief in the therapy."

 

And that: "Practitioners delivering psychological therapies should be trained to approved levels of competency, participate in continuing professional development and be registered with the appropriate governing body. They should be receiving ongoing supervision."

 

It was interesting to note that there were very few psychotherapists involved in developing these guidelines and there were no representatives from the UKCP. I believe that we could make some greater headway on establishing psychotherapy in Scotland, if we directed some of our group attention to these sorts of issues. 

 

Another couple of quotes:

10.2    Recommendations for research

For many of the interventions described in this guideline, there was little or no robust published evidence. This was particularly the case for complementary and alternative therapies, nutritional therapies, alcohol reduction and self help groups. In addition to a lack of primary studies on such interventions a number of wider research themes were identified:

*           validity of trial designs for psychological therapies ƒ 

*           dose-response studies for effective psychological therapies ƒ 

*           factors which contribute to drop-out ƒ 

*           non-specific treatment factors including patient/therapist interaction ƒ 

*           patient selection for psychological therapies ƒ 

*           long term effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical interventions ƒ 

*           contribution of unstructured exercise to beneficial effects on mood ƒ 

*           optimum type of exercise (aerobic, mixed or strength) ƒ 

[Liz Forbat]

Hi folks

I’d be really interested in connecting with others involved in psychotherapy research.  My ‘main’ job is as a researcher (I work at University of Stirling and co-direct a research centre focused on cancer and other life-limiting conditions, with a strand of work around therapy).   My training is in family and systemic psychotherapy; my research training was primarily qualitative, but I am now running a randomised controlled trial (couple intervention for people affected by prostate cancer).

 

I am on maternity leave until Jan 2014, so hope that there will be appetite for continued conversation over the longer term with Mark and other colleagues about evidence from both qualitative and quantitative approaches.

 

Sorry to miss out on the forthcoming meeting in the Autumn, but hope that someone will be kind enough to post a bullet point summary of some of the issues discussed at some point after the meeting if that isn’t too burdensome?

 

Liz

 

 

Dr Liz Forbat

Reader and Co-Director

Cancer Care Research Centre

School of Nursing, Midwifery and Health

University of Stirling
Stirling

FK9 4LA

DD: 01786 466103

www.cancercare.stir.ac.uk

Dear All

*           validity of trial designs for psychological therapies ƒ 

*           dose-response studies for effective psychological therapies ƒ 

*           factors which contribute to drop-out ƒ 

*           non-specific treatment factors including patient/therapist interaction ƒ 

*           patient selection for psychological therapies ƒ 

*           long term effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical interventions ƒ 

*           contribution of unstructured exercise to beneficial effects on mood ƒ 

*           optimum type of exercise (aerobic, mixed or strength) ƒ 

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The University of Stirling is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC 011159.

[Patricia Price]

Hello Liz

 

I’m just beginning a research project for an MSc in Mindfulness Studies with the University of Aberdeen (School of Education). This project is an exploration of the core principles necessary to create a safe holding space in group dialogue/ group psychotherapy’. It came about because of my own experiences in groups and a conversation I had with someone (not a client) who described the experience as “open-heart surgery with a blunt knife”.

 

The research will take the form of a co-inquiry with fellow psychotherapists trained in Core Process Psychotherapy, a mindfulness/compassion-based psychotherapeutic approach. I envisage that we will apply these principles and put them to the test within the dialogue as they are identified in group.  

 

I’m not an experienced researcher but am excited by this project. I have always been a keen inquirer and my academic supervisor introduced me to relational constructionism which is the approach I am taking in this research.

 

Patricia

[Mary MacCallum Sullivan]

It's great to hear of this serious research being done; is this another item for our agenda?

So far, we have:

• Electing representatives to the Psychotherapy Council;
• Forming a group (a 'steering group'?) to give us an initial structure for UKCP-in-Scotland;
• Proposing/finding someone to represent UKCP-in-Scotland on the SIGN guideline development revision group;
• Forming a Scottish Research Network?
• Getting some sort of update from UKCP officers, clarifying roles and responsibilities with particular reference to Scotland

May I suggest that if anyone wants to propose topics for discussion/decision-making you post them before the end of next week?  It's useful, I think, to agree (as far as possible) a shape to the meeting, so that, as Alastair suggests, we get the decision-making done early in the day.  

For me, the key aim of meeting is to get organised; I'm happy to use the resources of UKCP, most particularly their professional staff, so that we are not re-inventing the wheel.  We now have a Public Affairs Manager (Tim Swain) whom we didn't have before – let's use him! Equally, I don't believe it helps the profession appear unified if we are in some ways out of step with the 'official' position of UKCP overall. Clearly the political, NHS and university contexts here in Scotland are very different than in England, but Wales and Northern Ireland will be different again…..  I do mean 'in step', and not 'compliant'….

Am I right in thinking that an 'external' speaker would be unwelcome for this occasion?

I'm sure it will be good to have further meetings without having to involve 'London', but I, for one, have no interest and energy for being separate – at least not until the time and the larger process may determine!

For information, I'm also looking forward to having a couple of weeks 'away from my desk' in August.

Regards

Mary

[Alastair Moodie]

Hi Mary

 

UKCP members in Scotland have a lot to talk about and to decide together.  That’s clear.

 

I am not advocating some kind of “UDI” (i.e. unilateral declaration of independence) from UKCP Central – at least, not now!

 

But I am anxious that we are focused on developing a Scottish group and on organising ourselves in the Scottish context to represent our profession.  I am happy to involve Tim Swain and to get the benefit of his knowledge and experience.  We don’t need an “outside” speaker but a few members might assist our discussion by being prepared to present briefly on their experience of research etc.

 

We can get some updating through The Psychotherapist magazine and through occasional emails to the membership.

 

We must avoid clashes with other psychotherapy events.  I’m thinking of the major Joint Humanistic Conference in London on 7-8 September. 

I hope that everyone in UKCP Scotland can get our date of 21^st September into their diaries.  Can you confirm a venue?

 

Kind regards

 

Alastair

 

From: ukcpins...@googlegroups.com [mailto:ukcpins...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary MacCallum Sullivan

Sent: 18 July 2013 15:02
To: ukcpins...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: [UKCP in Scotland] Psychotherapy research in Scotland

 

It's great to hear of this serious research being done; is this another item for our agenda?

 

So far, we have:

• Electing representatives to the Psychotherapy Council;
• Forming a group (a 'steering group'?) to give us an initial structure for UKCP-in-Scotland;
• Proposing/finding someone to represent UKCP-in-Scotland on the SIGN guideline development revision group;
• Forming a Scottish Research Network?
• Getting some sort of update from UKCP officers, clarifying roles and responsibilities with particular reference to Scotland

May I suggest that if anyone wants to propose topics for discussion/decision-making you post them before the end of next week?  It's useful, I think, to agree (as far as possible) a shape to the meeting, so that, as Alastair suggests, we get the decision-making done early in the day.  

 

For me, the key aim of meeting is to get organised; I'm happy to use the resources of UKCP, most particularly their professional staff, so that we are not re-inventing the wheel.  We now have a Public Affairs Manager (Tim Swain) whom we didn't have before – let's use him! Equally, I don't believe it helps the profession appear unified if we are in some ways out of step with the 'official' position of UKCP overall. Clearly the political, NHS and university contexts here in Scotland are very different than in England, but Wales and Northern Ireland will be different again…..  I do mean 'in step', and not 'compliant'….

 

Am I right in thinking that an 'external' speaker would be unwelcome for this occasion?

 

I'm sure it will be good to have further meetings without having to involve 'London', but I, for one, have no interest and energy for being separate – at least not until the time and the larger process may determine!

 

For information, I'm also looking forward to having a couple of weeks 'away from my desk' in August.

 

Regards

Mary

 

From: Patricia Price <patri...@btinternet.com>

Reply-To: <ukcpins...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 17 July 2013 14:48

Dear All

*           validity of trial designs for psychological therapies ƒ 

*           dose-response studies for effective psychological therapies ƒ 

*           factors which contribute to drop-out ƒ 

*           non-specific treatment factors including patient/therapist interaction ƒ 

*           patient selection for psychological therapies ƒ 

*           long term effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical interventions ƒ 

*           contribution of unstructured exercise to beneficial effects on mood ƒ 

*           optimum type of exercise (aerobic, mixed or strength) ƒ 

[Mary MacCallum Sullivan]

Just checking back, and find additional proposed agenda item from Nirved – I have added it in as below.  Comments welcomed…

So far, we have:

• Electing representatives to the Psychotherapy Council;
• Forming a group (a 'steering group'?) to give us an initial structure for UKCP-in-Scotland;
• Proposing/finding someone to represent UKCP-in-Scotland on the SIGN guideline development revision group;

• Questions for Scottish ministers with responsibility for psychological therapies development and delivery of services;

• Forming a Scottish Research Network?
• Getting some sort of update from UKCP officers, clarifying roles and responsibilities with particular reference to Scotland

Regards

Mary

From: Mary MacCallum Sullivan <ma...@macpsych.co.uk>
Reply-To: <ukcpins...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:01
To: <ukcpins...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [UKCP in Scotland] Psychotherapy research in Scotland

It's great to hear of this serious research being done; is this another item for our agenda?

So far, we have:

• Electing representatives to the Psychotherapy Council;
• Forming a group (a 'steering group'?) to give us an initial structure for UKCP-in-Scotland;
• Proposing/finding someone to represent UKCP-in-Scotland on the SIGN guideline development revision group;

• Questions for Scottish ministers with responsibility for psychological therapies development and delivery of services;

[Courtenay Young]

There is also the UK Chapter of the SPR having a Conference in Oxford on Sept 12-14th, that some of us may be going to: http://www.psychotherapyresearch.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=394

Yours

Courtenay

Dear All

*           validity of trial designs for psychological therapies ƒ 

*           dose-response studies for effective psychological therapies ƒ 

*           factors which contribute to drop-out ƒ 

*           non-specific treatment factors including patient/therapist interaction ƒ 

*           patient selection for psychological therapies ƒ 

*           long term effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical interventions ƒ 

*           contribution of unstructured exercise to beneficial effects on mood ƒ 

*           optimum type of exercise (aerobic, mixed or strength) ƒ 

[Katie Banks]

Hello Mary,

I'm really glad to read your email. I particularly echo your point about not reinventing the wheel. I'm also keen that we do not take our position as psychotherapists in Scotland as though it has been handed to us from Alex Salmond and his cronies. We are in a unique position practising and living where we do. I'm sure the English and Welsh feel the same way too! 

I shall endeavour to be at the meeting.

Kind regards,

Katie 

Katie Banks MSc CTA PTSTA
UKCP Registered Psychotherapist
0777 3552104
www.therapysolutions - scotland.com

[Tim Swain]

Dear all

Thanks Mary and Alastair for your comments about the relevance of my role. You’re right that political engagement work is my paid profession and I am employed by UKCP to offer support, advice and guidance about how we can do that most effectively. An obvious missing element at the moment is we don’t have a public policy operation in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland, and that is something I am keen that we rectify.

So, in a sense, my interest is narrow. I think one thing the meeting should achieve is to establish a Scotland-specific structure which enables effective engagement on public policy over the months and years ahead – and, of course, one that is led by UKCP’s Scotland members.

More widely, Mary has suggested gathering agenda items by a fixed time and then putting that together. Lydia, the events manager – who I think many will have met before – is to email all Scottish members in good time for a meeting on the 21^st. Mary – perhaps it would be good to add Lydia to this mailing list so she can follow the latest?

It’s relevant to say that UKCP held an event in Cardiff earlier in the month and are beginning discussions in Wales about how we do something similar on the public policy front there. I think the exchange of ideas about public policy across all four nations improves each of them. SIGN – mentioned in an earlier thread – and NICE have some significant crossover and complementary working in engagement with these bodies is one obvious place to share knowledge and insights.

Wish you all the best and look forward to meeting those that will be attending in September.

Tim

 

Tim Swain

Public Affairs Manager

 

UK Council for Psychotherapy (UKCP)

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Dear All

*           validity of trial designs for psychological therapies ƒ 

*           dose-response studies for effective psychological therapies ƒ 

*           factors which contribute to drop-out ƒ 

*           non-specific treatment factors including patient/therapist interaction ƒ 

*           patient selection for psychological therapies ƒ 

*           long term effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical interventions ƒ 

*           contribution of unstructured exercise to beneficial effects on mood ƒ 

*           optimum type of exercise (aerobic, mixed or strength) ƒ 

 

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[cathie wright]

Dear All
I really appreciate this letter from Courtenay. I think he is absolutely right that we need to engage at the level of Government and setting guidelines. I have been deeply frustrated at the service that is offered to people who have experienced early abuse and show serious mental health problems as a result. I think it is important that our profession stands up and begins to act on behalf of our clients, especially those who find it hard to express themselves because of their distress.

THANK YOU COURTENAY

All the best
Cathie Wright

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From: Courtenay Young <cour...@courtenay-young.com>
To: ukcpins...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 16 July 2013, 22:31
Subject: Re: [UKCP in Scotland] post from Alastair

[Courtenay Young]

Dear Cathie

Yes: you are right - especially for this group of abused people who may need some help and who still find it difficult to speak up about t'their' situation: 

However, there are several fairly readily available contact and support groups for such people: I don't know if this helps.

If you specialise in this area, and can offer something specific, maybe it is best to contact these directly.

www.survivorscotland.org.uk; 

www.breathingspacescotland.co.uk/bspace/controller?p_service=Content.show&p_applic=CCC&pContentID=89&pMenuID=3&pElementID=62

www.rapecrisisscotland.org.uk/links

www.stopitnow.org.uk

www.manyvoicespress.org

www.malesurvivor.org/index.htm - for male survivors

www.napac.org.uk

www.patient.co.uk/directory/abuse-violence-rape

www.tasc-online.org.uk/infoforsurvivors.html

www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2008/04/07143029/9

Yours

Courtenay

[David Harford]

Hi Liz (and others)

By way of introducing myself, I'm presently conducting quantitative and qualitative research into the effectiveness of transactional analysis psychotherapy in the treatment of armed forces veterans with PTSD (see http://harfordtherapy.blogspot.co.uk/ and http://www.harfordtherapy.com for more information).

I'd be happy to have a chat sometime if you'd like my input into any of these proposals.

Best wishes

David Harford
07962 887783
Skype: harfordtherapy
harford...@gmail.com

[Liz forbat]

Dear UKCP colleagues
A colleague has asked for help identifying a good child therapist with some idea of family who works privately in Glasgow for a boy about 10

Let me know if you have some contacts for me to suggest,
thanks

Liz

(Family therapist based in Edinburgh)

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http://www.wanttofeelbetter.co.uk/

[Mary MacCallum Sullivan]

Not sure of her affiliation/s, but have heard very good reports of Jannette Montague in Glasgow – see Linked in…..

Mary

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