caught at 115mph
Sarah Browne
any ideas on what penalty this will result in? I know it's not something I
should or am proud of and realise *my* mistake so please spare me another
lecture. Thank you.
Sarah
xxx
Simon Worby
Assuming:
1. you have no points already, and
2. you were not driving dangerously or carelessly
probably something like 6 points, a 1 month ban, and a £500 fine.
Regards,
Simon Worby
SimonJ
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Paul Smith
<sarah....@remove.mail.com> wrote:
Hi Sarah,
I'm sorry to hear that the blue meanies got you.
There's a table of speeding conviction data here:
http://www.pistonheads.com/speed/results.asp
The Magistrates Association recommend a ban for speeds exceeding 30mph
above the limit.
Is there any chance of fighting the thing, possibly on an error of
procedure?
Paul Smith
Scotland, UK
http://www.safespeed.org.uk
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Peter Lupton
> >any ideas on what penalty this will result in? I know it's not something
I
> >should or am proud of and realise *my* mistake so please spare me
another
> >lecture. Thank you.
>
> Hi Sarah,
>
> I'm sorry to hear that the blue meanies got you.
>
> There's a table of speeding conviction data here:
>
> http://www.pistonheads.com/speed/results.asp
>
> The Magistrates Association recommend a ban for speeds exceeding 30mph
> above the limit.
>
> Is there any chance of fighting the thing, possibly on an error of
> procedure?
I found that site ages ago, and I've been looking for it ever since - no
search has brought it up. Cheers Paul.
One bit that sickens me is a guy on a bike doing 170mph down the M5 at night
who even claimed that he was shitting himself at that speed, and got away
scot free, when another guy on the M1 (clear day, empty road) got 5 points,
£500 fine + £35 costs for doing 98.
How they figured out those two I don't know.
Peter
Oliver Keating
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I have spoken to a magistrate about this. Circumstances will be considered.
You may be able to escape a ban if you convince the magistrate that 115mph
was not a dangerous speed in the circumstances. I.e. empty motorway, away
from motorway junctions etc.
I presume the offence was committed on a motorway?
Oliver Keating
Paul Smith
wrote:
>Sarah Browne <sarah....@remove.mail.com> wrote:
[snip
>You are probably also facing having to take an extended re-test before
>getting your licence back. This is at the whim of the magistrates but is
>increasingly common, particularly in the Thames Valley and Avon,
>Somerset and Bath areas.
The Magistrates Association guidelines:
http://magistrates-association.org.uk/news/2001%20assoc%20news/february_2001.htm
should not require an extended driving test.
Do you have evidence that these guidelines are being misapplied?
Paul Smith
<Pe...@DaftlaneHAIR.com> wrote:
>> There's a table of speeding conviction data here:
>> http://www.pistonheads.com/speed/results.asp
[snip]
>I found that site ages ago, and I've been looking for it ever since - no
>search has brought it up. Cheers Paul.
Pleased to be of service. :-)
>One bit that sickens me is a guy on a bike doing 170mph down the M5 at night
>who even claimed that he was shitting himself at that speed, and got away
>scot free, when another guy on the M1 (clear day, empty road) got 5 points,
>£500 fine + £35 costs for doing 98.
>How they figured out those two I don't know.
It's bound to happen... Even with the best will in the world,
different benches will have different views. Also the bench may have
heard a different stories from the ones posted.
Paul Smith
<webm...@o-keating.com> wrote:
>> I was recently caught driving at 115mph by an unmarked video police car -
>> any ideas on what penalty this will result in? I know it's not something
>> I should or am proud of and realise *my* mistake so please spare me another
>> lecture. Thank you.
>I have spoken to a magistrate about this. Circumstances will be considered.
>You may be able to escape a ban if you convince the magistrate that 115mph
>was not a dangerous speed in the circumstances. I.e. empty motorway, away
>from motorway junctions etc.
The Magistrates Association guidelines also say that the vehicle and
the driver should be considered. I have read this on the Magistrates
Association web site, but the site is a bit odd, and rather broken
today, so I can't find it again.
http://magistrates-association.org.uk
Grant Mason
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> The penalty will rather be affected by the location of the crime. If
it
> was 115mph on an otherwise empty motorway, you can expect rather
better
> treatment than if it was in the local pedestrian precint.
>
> Quite impressive though, presumably your speedo was reading between
130
> to 140 mph for most of the measured section.
Err, shouldn't the speedo be reading somewhere between 115 and 128 for
it to be within the legal limits? Or are most speedo's > 10% out at
these kind of speeds?
Mine appears to be about 2mph out at 30 and around 6 out at 100.
Nightjar
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>
> probably be a very good idea.
I would have thought that a plea of guilty by post, which would allow the
Court to deal with the case with a minimum of time taken and no need to call
the Police as witnesses, would be better appreciated.
Colin Bignell
Paul Smith
<nigh...@insertmysurname.uk.com> wrote:
>> FWIW, a personal appearance in court, dressed appropriately, will
>> probably be a very good idea.
>I would have thought that a plea of guilty by post, which would allow the
>Court to deal with the case with a minimum of time taken and no need to call
>the Police as witnesses, would be better appreciated.
An appearance in person is required when a ban is a possibility. I
doubt very much that a guilty plea by post will be acceptable.
Peter Lupton
>
> astonishing regularity in reference to speeding resulting in a ban.
> There is no further information by which I could establish the previous
> driving record of those sent for a re-test or extended re-test. In this
> case, the individual has not mentioned any "previous".
>
> And in contrast to statements made in this newsgroups, local reports
> also mention fixed penalties and magistrates court appearances for
> speeding at 82-84mph on the A34 and M4. It looks like the "get tough"
> policy in these areas is being backed up by magistrates.
Well, when I got caught doing 114mph (between M4 J11 + J10 Eastbound, 9:30pm
on a Monday, very litle traffic, well lit section of motorway, dry road) the
copper said to me "there are people out there doing 80-85mph - we're not too
bothered by them" - in other words "it's idiots like you we want to catch".
I got caught at the end of May '99 (having only passed my test in December
'98) and got banned in August '99 for 3 months with a £90 fine + £35 costs,
and no retest, let alone an extended one.
Peter
Alasdair Baxter
wrote:
>You are probably also facing having to take an extended re-test before
>getting your licence back.
As I have a licence to drive a car, motorbike, lorry and bus, would I
have to take four extended tests to restore my present licence or
would the one test do the trick. Incidentally, I've not been ordered
to take a re-test but should the event arise.......
--
Alasdair Baxter, Nottingham, UK.Tel +44 115 9705100; Fax +44 115 9423263
"It's not what you say that matters but how you say it.
It's not what you do that matters but how you do it"
Andy Long
>
> Paul Smith <psm...@XYZsafespeed.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Do you have evidence that these guidelines are being misapplied?
>
> astonishing regularity in reference to speeding resulting in a ban.
> There is no further information by which I could establish the previous
> driving record of those sent for a re-test or extended re-test. In this
> case, the individual has not mentioned any "previous".
Under waht circumstances is a retest being reported as being required?
>
> And in contrast to statements made in this newsgroups, local reports
> also mention fixed penalties and magistrates court appearances for
> speeding at 82-84mph on the A34 and M4. It looks like the "get tough"
> policy in these areas is being backed up by magistrates.
Up to 26 over the limit i think is the top for a fixed penalty, ofcourse
this may be reduced depending on the circumstances.
If you dont comply with the ticket, it becomes a fine. You can also
elect to go to court if you wish.
>
> --
> Ha ha ha ha ....
Lemon Squeezer
<9je0j8$2c7$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>, Sarah Browne wrote:
>
>I was recently caught driving at 115mph by an unmarked video police car -
>any ideas on what penalty this will result in?
I take it you didn't have a government minister in the car at the time then?
Lem
John Buckley
> FWIW, a personal appearance in court, dressed appropriately, will
> probably be a very good idea.
It will impress the prison warders and that nice Mr Archer might even
talk to you.
John Buckley
Reginald Perrin
>
>> FWIW, a personal appearance in court, dressed appropriately, will
>> probably be a very good idea.
If it's a male judge, wearing a short skirt and low-cut blouse should
help you ;-)
Stevie D
> I take it you didn't have a government minister in the car at the time then?
Hey, that must be why ministers' cars always go so fast - it's because
the driver can't what to get the bastard in the back to his destination
and get rid of him for a while :-)
--
Did you hear about the chicken that tried to cross the Mőbius strip?
Nightjar
"Paul Smith" <psm...@XYZsafespeed.org.uk> wrote in message
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> An appearance in person is required when a ban is a possibility. I
> doubt very much that a guilty plea by post will be acceptable.
The only time I was caught for speeding was before points and a ban, if they
were used then, was not even remotely likely, so I was not aware of that.
Colin Bignell
Richard Halford
wrote:
>SimonJ <m...@mine.com> wrote:
>
>> You will almost certainly be burned.
>
>Bloody good thing too, she's obviously a witch. And dead, because speed
>kills.
I bet she weighs the same as a duck too ;-)