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Brian Robertson

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:17:42 AM6/14/11
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Another one bites the dust at this infamous black-spot. Well known to all us
bus drivers, at least after the moment of impact ;-)

http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1423570_bus-damaged-after-crashing-into-a-stockport-bridge?rss=yes&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FsqMB+%28Stockport+Express+-+RSS+Feed%29

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Roland Perry

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:32:12 AM6/14/11
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In message <SbJJp.2276$_e6....@newsfe10.ams2>, at 14:17:42 on Tue, 14
Jun 2011, Brian Robertson <br...@britishrailways1960.co.uk> remarked:

>Another one bites the dust at this infamous black-spot. Well known to all us
>bus drivers, at least after the moment of impact ;-)
>
>http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1423570_bus-damaged-after-
>crashing-into-a-stockport-bridge?rss=yes&utm_source=feedburner&utm_mediu
>m=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FsqMB+%28Stockport+Express+-+RSS+Feed
>%29

Ouch! That's not even a clapped out school bus (which seem to be the
usual suspects for this kind of thing).
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Brian Robertson

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:36:36 AM6/14/11
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Indeed. Very new. In the fact the newest open-top bus in the fleet lol

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Andy Breen

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Jun 14, 2011, 9:55:00 AM6/14/11
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:36:36 +0100, Brian Robertson wrote:

> Indeed. Very new. In the fact the newest open-top bus in the fleet lol

"lol". Lovely.

Not even slightly a laugh if you're on the upper deck when it happens.
No injuries reported (thankfully - hopefully the bus was empty), but
it's still very far from a fun experience. Actually, not even a fun
experience if you're on the lower deck.

Never actually had the experience myself, but several close friends
have done, one twice (same location..) - and those impacts were at
pretty low speeds. None of them seemed to regard it as an enjoyable
way to spend the time. I suppose the most tolerant of them might, just,
have found it amusing that somewhere in the world there's someone who
thought it was a proper laugh, but I doubt it.

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John Williamson

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Jun 14, 2011, 10:16:55 AM6/14/11
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In this case, looking at the picture, the bus was showing "out of
service" on the front, and presumably running empty back to the depot. I
doubt the driver had the presence of mind or time to alter the
destination display.

So maybe a slight smile of relief that nobody was hurt? Although, in the
industry as a whole, one way of coping with any untoward incident is by
making a joke of it, especially if it's something you've almost done
yourself. Doing that doesn't affect anyone's commitment to safety.

If it's a common occurence at that location, as has been suggested, then
*maybe* it's time to put up one of those flashing overheight warning
signs on the approaches?

In the meantime, given that nobody was injured, except for the driver's
pride, yes I do find it amusing *as a driver*.

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Andy Breen

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Jun 14, 2011, 10:34:51 AM6/14/11
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:16:55 +0100, John Williamson wrote:

> Andy Breen wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:36:36 +0100, Brian Robertson wrote:
>>
>>> Indeed. Very new. In the fact the newest open-top bus in the fleet lol
>>
>> "lol". Lovely.
>>
>> Not even slightly a laugh if you're on the upper deck when it happens.
>> No injuries reported (thankfully - hopefully the bus was empty), but
>> it's still very far from a fun experience. Actually, not even a fun
>> experience if you're on the lower deck.
>>
>> Never actually had the experience myself, but several close friends
>> have done, one twice (same location..)

By "same location", I meant that both the shunts I had friends in were
in the same place, not that it was the same place as this one..

>>
> In this case, looking at the picture, the bus was showing "out of
> service" on the front, and presumably running empty back to the depot.

Phew. I'd not noticed that. I'm very glad..

> So maybe a slight smile of relief that nobody was hurt?

OK. I can go with that.

> Although, in the
> industry as a whole, one way of coping with any untoward incident is by
> making a joke of it, especially if it's something you've almost done
> yourself. Doing that doesn't affect anyone's commitment to safety.

I know. Though it's one of those things that tends to be made light of
within a circle (says he, recalling certain things in his past..).

> If it's a common occurence at that location, as has been suggested, then
> *maybe* it's time to put up one of those flashing overheight warning
> signs on the approaches?

Probably so - and more than time. The common issue seems to be people
forgetting (the two aforementioned crunches I mentioned were down to
a double-decker turning up on a route that normally got singles, and
the driver just.. forgetting).


>
> In the meantime, given that nobody was injured, except for the driver's
> pride, yes I do find it amusing *as a driver*.

I probably over-reacted. Amazing how fresh some memories turn out to be
after 26+ years..

John Williamson

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Jun 14, 2011, 10:46:39 AM6/14/11
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Andy Breen wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:16:55 +0100, John Williamson wrote:
>
>> Andy Breen wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:36:36 +0100, Brian Robertson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Indeed. Very new. In the fact the newest open-top bus in the fleet lol
>>> "lol". Lovely.
>>>
>>> Not even slightly a laugh if you're on the upper deck when it happens.
>>> No injuries reported (thankfully - hopefully the bus was empty), but
>>> it's still very far from a fun experience. Actually, not even a fun
>>> experience if you're on the lower deck.
>>>
>>> Never actually had the experience myself, but several close friends
>>> have done, one twice (same location..)
>
> By "same location", I meant that both the shunts I had friends in were
> in the same place, not that it was the same place as this one..
>
The story in the link refers to it as not being the first incident of
this type at this location.

>> In this case, looking at the picture, the bus was showing "out of
>> service" on the front, and presumably running empty back to the depot.
>
> Phew. I'd not noticed that. I'm very glad..
>
>> So maybe a slight smile of relief that nobody was hurt?
>
> OK. I can go with that.
>
>> Although, in the
>> industry as a whole, one way of coping with any untoward incident is by
>> making a joke of it, especially if it's something you've almost done
>> yourself. Doing that doesn't affect anyone's commitment to safety.
>
> I know. Though it's one of those things that tends to be made light of
> within a circle (says he, recalling certain things in his past..).
>
>> If it's a common occurence at that location, as has been suggested, then
>> *maybe* it's time to put up one of those flashing overheight warning
>> signs on the approaches?
>
> Probably so - and more than time. The common issue seems to be people
> forgetting (the two aforementioned crunches I mentioned were down to
> a double-decker turning up on a route that normally got singles, and
> the driver just.. forgetting).
>> In the meantime, given that nobody was injured, except for the driver's
>> pride, yes I do find it amusing *as a driver*.
>
> I probably over-reacted. Amazing how fresh some memories turn out to be
> after 26+ years..
>

Yes, I know.

Andy Breen

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Jun 14, 2011, 11:04:21 AM6/14/11
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:46:39 +0100, John Williamson wrote:

> Andy Breen wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:16:55 +0100, John Williamson wrote:
>>
>>>> Never actually had the experience myself, but several close friends
>>>> have done, one twice (same location..)
>>
>> By "same location", I meant that both the shunts I had friends in were
>> in the same place, not that it was the same place as this one..
>>
> The story in the link refers to it as not being the first incident of
> this type at this location.

I had picked that bit up. That bit of the reply was an attempt to clarify
things, not argument-picking. Sorry if it came across the wrong way..

Andy Elms

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Jun 14, 2011, 11:09:04 AM6/14/11
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On Jun 14, 3:34 pm, Andy Breen <a...@aber.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 15:16:55 +0100, John Williamson wrote:
> > If it's a common occurence at that location, as has been suggested, then
> > *maybe* it's time to put up one of those flashing overheight warning
> > signs on the approaches?
>
> Probably so - and more than time. The common issue seems to be people
> forgetting (the two aforementioned crunches I mentioned were down to
> a double-decker turning up on a route that normally got singles, and
> the driver just.. forgetting).

There already is. And another on the roundabout approaching it.

http://tinyurl.com/GeorgesRoadStockport

AE

Mark Robinson

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Jun 14, 2011, 11:54:52 AM6/14/11
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On 14/06/2011 16:09, Andy Elms wrote:

> There already is. And another on the roundabout approaching it.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/GeorgesRoadStockport
>

Thanks to Stockport's challenging geography, the alternative route -
carrying on down Travis Brow, Heaton Ln and up the A6 - can't add more
than about 5 minutes to the journey and involves crossing the railway
here:

http://tinyurl.com/BusAlternativeRoute

where even the most enthusiastic bus driver would struggle to decapitate
his top deck. Maybe Stagecoach should just ban their drivers using
Georges Rd under any circumstances?

Cheers

mark-r

Rupert Moss-Eccardt

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Jun 14, 2011, 4:07:32 PM6/14/11
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Brian Robertson wrote:
> Another one bites the dust at this infamous black-spot. Well known to all us
> bus drivers, at least after the moment of impact ;-)
>
> http://menmedia.co.uk/stockportexpress/news/s/1423570_bus-damaged-after-crashing-into-a-stockport-bridge?rss=yes&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FsqMB+%28Stockport+Express+-+RSS+Feed%29
>

I hadn't really thought of Decathlon as a 'Superstore'. It is a super
place to shop but that isn't the same thing.

Brian Robertson

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Jun 14, 2011, 4:31:48 PM6/14/11
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"Brian Robertson" <br...@britishrailways1960.co.uk> wrote in message
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Just to inform the people who don't know, George's Road is not on any bus
route, but it is a short cut to the depot. I can recall 5 or so short cuts
here in the last 14 years that ended the same way. You could argue about the
reasons for this all day and get nowhere.

Stagecoach have done what they can by banning ALL company vehicles, even
cars and vans, from using the route. But I have used it myself driving a
MAN. A short cut is a short cut to a man hungry to sign off.

Unfortunately - and despite what people think - there is absolutely no
sensation of difference in driving a double decker as against a single
decker.

Anyway, such is life. I posted this on the railway group because George's
Road is a railway bridge and I cringe to think of the bill from Network Rail
for the delays.

Brian.

Steve Fitzgerald

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Jun 14, 2011, 7:43:59 PM6/14/11
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In message <95p8qn...@mid.individual.net>, John Williamson
<johnwil...@btinternet.com> writes

>In the meantime, given that nobody was injured, except for the driver's
>pride, yes I do find it amusing *as a driver*.

Sadly, it's probably the driver's job too.
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Brian Robertson

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Jun 15, 2011, 10:41:25 AM6/15/11
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"Steve Fitzgerald" <junk@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
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Not always, but you wouldn't want to be doing it again any time soon ;-)

Graham.

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Jun 19, 2011, 9:05:12 AM6/19/11
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"Andy Elms" <hebog_...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:07b8650d-34be-4101...@b1g2000yql.googlegroups.com...

http://tinyurl.com/GeorgesRoadStockport

AE

Yes there is the matrix and if you turn round 180 deg and zoom in to the street
furniture just before (just after from the drivers perspective) the roundabout,
there appears to be a pair of optical height measuring units.

I can't see anything in the opposite direction though, which was the direction of
travel for this incident.

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