What's the best bus ever?
Dave
(make the most of it it won't last forever) but I'm sure it will have
contraversial answers...
What is the best bus ever? With consideration to the age of the vehicle. Ie
it would be unfair to put a Volve B7R ALX400 against a Routemaster. I mean,
give the Volvo a chance.
Personally I think the Paramout 4 3500 on a Leyland Tiger is the best coach
ever, as it does lots of MPG on the motorway, refuses to break down, goes on
forever and is built like a tank.
Over to you.
Dave.
colin stones
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routemaster in setting the standard.for bus makers. The Optare Solos for
best minibus
Terry Harper
Probably the Midland Red CMT6 Motorway Cruisers. Never had the pleasure, but
wish I had.
After them the Gloster Gardners of Red & White and Neath and Cardiff
Express. Those I did ride on, and they were terrific for 1930 vehicles.
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Philip George
I think the Leyland 2's has the best-sounding engine on any bus ever.
phil
In article <atto85$f78$2...@sparta.btinternet.com>,
Tom Cumming
> I thought I might make a comment that is NOT contraversial for a change
> (make the most of it it won't last forever) but I'm sure it will have
> contraversial answers...
Wait, you want to be uncontroversial, so you ask us about our
favourite buses? Hmmmm.......
Anyway, my nominations would be the Bristol VR, for just being so
well built, rugged and reliable, and the SLF Dart for starting the
low-floor thing and making bus travel so much easier for so many
people. I think the latter could annoy a few people :->
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Jimboindbq
>Anyway, my nominations would be the Bristol VR, for just being so
>well built, rugged and reliable
Hi All,
I will agree with Tom's comments as far as the UK is concerned.
Since I moved from Liverpool, to the USA, I have been driving coaches which
have made by a company called MCI. And, MCI's D Series gets my vote as far as
coaches are concerned.
We put approximately 110,000 miles per year, on ours, and they very rarely let
us down. They are powered by either Detroit Diesel's Series 60 or Cummins M11
engines, which have yet to need an overhaul....with some at over 500,000 miles.
More info, on MCI, can be found at;
http://www.ridemci.com
Cheers!
Jim.
Dave
I find myself agreeing with somebody!
I think the VR is an excellent machine too. I remember being shocked to
learn after my first trip onboard that it was on leaf springs. Felt just
like air. I am on the lookout for a VR myself to replace a tired, but newer,
Olympian.
Terry Harper
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>
> Anyway, my nominations would be the Bristol VR, for just being so
> well built, rugged and reliable, and the SLF Dart for starting the
> low-floor thing and making bus travel so much easier for so many
> people. I think the latter could annoy a few people :->
I thought that it was the Bristol RELL that introduced low floors, having
followed the Lodekka which was similarly blessed.
nocrap Amy Simms
@knossos.btinternet.com:
My vote goes to the Caetano Nimbus on the Dart chassis.
Certainly the easiest to maintain.
Amy
Dave
suspension, basic electrical relays, mechanical lift pump... ahhh lovely.
Why did they have to spoil it by using inflated carrier bags for springs and
making everything micro-processed? I don't like things involving that new
fangled electrickery stuff.
Amy: What is it with Darts? When new they go like shi-ugar of the
proverbial, but soon become slow when older (i e 6mths older). I've noticed
many operators have said this. Is it a design fault or just the way everyone
runs them? I wish I could get that Alexander Dart bac, she was great.
RELL6G
<nospam...@hotmail.com> writes
My own personal best is the Bristol RE, the 5 speed Leyland engined
variant absolutely flies along which made it a good tool for express
work.
The 4 speed Gardner engined variant was perfect for town and rural work.
Many moaned about the lack of power steering which I have never
considered to be an issue as I feel more 'in control' as it were.
Moving forward to the more modern things the Volvo B10B takes some
beating in my book.
The best double deck vehicle to me is the Bristol VR which handles as
though it is running on rails, not to mention a cab layout on the ECW
bodied version which actually has places to put one's paperwork - in
short very much a driver's bus......
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Billy
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Ie
> >it would be unfair to put a Volve B7R ALX400 against a Routemaster. I
mean,
> >give the Volvo a chance.
>> The best double deck vehicle to me is the Bristol VR which handles as
> though it is running on rails, not to mention a cab layout on the ECW
> bodied version which actually has places to put one's paperwork - in
> short very much a driver's bus......
Very good point about the paperwork etc on the ECW.
As bus engineering has progressed (?) so too has the regard for the driver
re-gressed.
None of our Gleaming new ALX`s have as much as a clip for Running
Board,Defect Sheet or indeed the (Irish) Sun....
Yet the various buses featured on the front page of the Christmas issue of
our staff magazine which depicts a surprisingly jammed O`Connell St in
Dublin c1953 had more spring clips and storage nooks an crannies than a big
stick could be shook at......
Progress ?........ok I`ll have a little of that then.....
Dave
experience of the low floor versionof the bus, although from seeing a B10
std chassis, I think it would have taken a hell of a lot of modifications to
make it LE. Or is the B20BLE just a souped up B6BLE?
Reason I ask is I've used many B6s and haven't been too impressed with its
ride quality over sleeping policepersons in the city centre. Is the B10BLE
different, I wonder?
Dave
Duane Fryer
and other modern tin cans I find to be RUBBISH! At the top for me has to be
the Leyland Titan PD2/PD3 range, good solid and reliable vehicles, closely
followed by the Leyland engined Routemaster, far more guts than the AEC
engined variant. For "OMO" vehicles I go for the Volvo Ailsa, great musical
sounds, rugged and the engine is at the right end! If i have to go for a bus
with the engine at the wrong end then i go for the Leyland Atlantean
followed by the Bristol VR. But i will always go for a bus with the engine
at the front and the door at the back!
Duane
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Sunbeam F4A (esp Derby 237) with Roe bodywork. Smashing vehicle to
drive.
Alan J. Flavell
> Probably the Midland Red CMT6 Motorway Cruisers. Never had the pleasure, but
> wish I had.
They're only a dim memory now, but I travelled on them quite a number
of times in their heyday. They went like a bat out of hell down the
motorway (the M1 back then carried relatively little traffic, believe
it or not), especially by the standards of the average 'family car' of
those days, but most of the journey _time_ was spent either between
Digbeth and around the Coventry Bypass, or grinding across London to
Vic. Coach Station.
[speaking only as an interested passenger, and onetime owner of a BMMO
bus spotters booklet - no connections with the business]
Jason Littlewood
The ones in my are area either M or N Reg and could not pull the skin off a
rice pudding,
and you have plan your braking about 3 weeks in advance!!!
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Tom Cumming
> I thought that it was the Bristol RELL that introduced low floors, having
> followed the Lodekka which was similarly blessed.
Grrr - OK, with kneeling suspension and space for buggies and
wheelchairs? :-)
--
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Tom Cumming
> The best double deck vehicle to me is the Bristol VR which handles as
> though it is running on rails, not to mention a cab layout on the ECW
> bodied version which actually has places to put one's paperwork - in
> short very much a driver's bus......
I'd often wondered about that, as I have so many times seen
drivers covering over things like the speedometer with folders,
ticket rolls etc. Is that why the Darts make that really loud
beeping sound when a warning light comes on? In case the driver
has covered the light over with something?!!
--
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RELL6G
Littlewood <Jason.Li...@ntlworld.com> writes
[...]
>My own experience of darts is that they are all a great big pile of c!ap.
>The ones in my are area either M or N Reg and could not pull the skin off a
>rice pudding,
>and you have plan your braking about 3 weeks in advance!!!
Don't forget the need to plan in accordance with the absolutely
*atrocious* turning circle on a Dart........
RELL6G
<t...@ncumming.eurobell.co.uk> writes
The height of the entrance step on an ECW RELL is very similar to an
Optare 'Delta' believe it or not; I had a tape measure out once upon a
time but cannot recall the precise difference.
Removing the front wheel aside an operator based in Chichester removed
some of the front spring leaves from a Marshall bodied RELL (it had 17
leaves originally) to make the entrance step height comply with the
(then) DipTac regulations, the other Marshall RELL was not modified thus
providing an interesting comparison when we went down to fetch it for
preservation.
Returning to the ECW RELL I would say there is actually room to position
a buggy (not of the heavy goods buggy variety!) in the area between the
front wheel arches.
RELL6G
<t...@ncumming.eurobell.co.uk> writes
though you probably have a very good point!
Where to put one's rainforest always presented a problem, I tended to
either dump it all on the cab floor and delicately clip the faresheet to
the ticket machine and sort of balance it on my left knee for ease of
vision.
Not many bothered though simply masking the entire dashboard, personally
I preferred to keep an eye on air gauges (knowing I would be able to
stop!) and fault lights.........
Ian Jelf
>I thought I might make a comment that is NOT contraversial for a change
>(make the most of it it won't last forever) but I'm sure it will have
>contraversial answers...
>
>What is the best bus ever?
*driver* point of view), I'd find it difficult to differentiate between
these three:
The BMMO D9
The Bristol FLF Lodekka
The Routemaster
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David Farrier
> variant absolutely flies along which made it a good tool for express
> work.
I went to the Czech Republic in 1999 on JMA413L, a RELH6L, then went to
Austria in 2000 on AFM106G, a RELH6G. Both vehicles are a credit to their
owner, Steve Graham of Widnes.
Thousands of miles in comfort.
Try walking after a 30 minute ride on a Mercedes Citaro (Oldham to
Manchester).
Definitely a numb-bum afterwards.
>
>
> Moving forward to the more modern things the Volvo B10B takes some
> beating in my book.
>
The firmest ride, for me, in Manchester is the Volvo B10M/Alexander of
Stagecoach Manchester.
Regards
Dave Farrier
Dave
> The firmest ride, for me, in Manchester is the Volvo B10M/Alexander of
> Stagecoach Manchester.
Dave (not Farrier) Johnsson
Jason Littlewood
Bill Hayles
<nospam...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I thought I might make a comment that is NOT contraversial for a change
>(make the most of it it won't last forever) but I'm sure it will have
>contraversial answers...
>
>What is the best bus ever?
AEC Regal IV (RF).
The best bus I ever drove, and just about the nicest to ride in..
What's the WORST bus ever?
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Dave
colin stones
"David Farrier" <DFAR...@daveandpat.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> RELL6G <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:0tF9rHCm...@bcvr.demon.co.uk...
> > In article <attciu$i1t$1...@knossos.btinternet.com>, Dave
> > My own personal best is the Bristol RE, the 5 speed Leyland engined
> > variant absolutely flies along which made it a good tool for express
> > work.
>
> I went to the Czech Republic in 1999 on JMA413L, a RELH6L, then went to
> Austria in 2000 on AFM106G, a RELH6G. Both vehicles are a credit to their
> owner, Steve Graham of Widnes.
> Thousands of miles in comfort.
> Try walking after a 30 minute ride on a Mercedes Citaro (Oldham to
> Manchester).
> Definitely a numb-bum afterwards.
Manchester on the 82
the best bus good rides are B10B B10L with wright setups on the 400 route
Bolton to Stockport
the best bus for very numb-bums are DAF SB220s and the buses that ran on the
M10
David Sharp
>
> AEC Regal IV (RF).
>
> The best bus I ever drove, and just about the nicest to ride in..
>
I'm lucky. I have one at the back of the house, and can see it now.
I will be taking it for a Christmas run tomorrow.
I guess I'm lucky, too.
David Sharp.
Paul Tidmarsh
"colin stones" <colin...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Dennis Dart with the Carlyle bodywork what an ugly thing!
Best Bus:
Leyland National 1
Bristol VR
Leyland Royal Tiger Doyen
Paul
Richard Adkins
"David Farrier" <DFAR...@daveandpat.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> RELL6G <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:0tF9rHCm...@bcvr.demon.co.uk...
> > In article <attciu$i1t$1...@knossos.btinternet.com>, Dave
> > My own personal best is the Bristol RE, the 5 speed Leyland engined
> > variant absolutely flies along which made it a good tool for express
> > work.
Well, being of a different generation, I would say best bus was a Leyland
Olympian with ECW NBC body with DP seats and high speed back axle. Or a late
1980/1 Bristol VRT with ECW body with a Gardner 6LXC.
>
> I went to the Czech Republic in 1999 on JMA413L, a RELH6L, then went to
> Austria in 2000 on AFM106G, a RELH6G. Both vehicles are a credit to their
> owner, Steve Graham of Widnes.
> Thousands of miles in comfort.
I saw JMA413L parked in York one Sunday earlier this month. At first I
thought I was seeing things. It look superb in Tilling Cream and Red.
Does anyone know of where it is possible to get close to a Bristol RE in the
North of England? Last time I did was back in Hartlepool in the late 80's on
a school trip!
> Try walking after a 30 minute ride on a Mercedes Citaro (Oldham to
> Manchester).
> Definitely a numb-bum afterwards.
>
Worst: Hmm well a trip on a Mk2 Metrobus was a frightening experience, and
anything which has a small swept volume engine which has to run at almost
flat out to keep progress!
> > Moving forward to the more modern things the Volvo B10B takes some
> > beating in my book.
Well the B10BLE seems ok, but not ridden on many. Leyland Lynx wins for its
swift performance.
TTFN
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Jason Littlewood
Also being of the younger generation, How about a Leyland Olympian
with Charles Roe/Optare Coach/Express Bodywork and a tuned Leyland TL11
engine with high speed gearing & back axle!!!! (they used to go like s&!t
off the shovel)
Shame about the gearbox being full auto though.
Worst Bus.
It must be any MCW Metrobus or the anything by Dennis.
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Ivor Jones
"Jason Littlewood" <Jason.Li...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Best Bus.
> Also being of the younger generation, How about a Leyland Olympian
> with Charles Roe/Optare Coach/Express Bodywork and a tuned Leyland TL11
> engine with high speed gearing & back axle!!!! (they used to go like
s&!t
> off the shovel)
> Shame about the gearbox being full auto though.
>
> Worst Bus.
> It must be any MCW Metrobus or the anything by Dennis.
Hmm, I *like* the Metrobus, at least from a driver's point of view. They're
dead easy to drive if the mechanics do their job properly..! Some can be
rather sluggish though, I have to admit..!
Best bus for me though has to be the old London RT, particularly the RTW
variant. This from a passenger's viewpoint though, I've never driven one
(yet..!)
Worst..? Leyland Lynx, without a shadow of a doubt. Rattletrap, heat sticks
on in summer, not hot enough in winter. Only good point about them is no
speed limiter, at least not on ours.
Of the current fleet we have, the Volvo B10LE's are ok, the brakes are
certainly better than the B10B variant. The B6's are rubbish though..!
Ivor
Julian Hayward
<bil...@billnot.com> writes
>
>What's the WORST bus ever?
>
London Buses' RW-class Renaults, subsequently inflicted on Slough,
Bracknell and other First territory. (I only had one journey on an RB
and don't remember it clearly enough to say if it was worse than the
Wrights variety). Heating either ferocious or nil, driver positioned low
enough for a stroppy passenger to knee him in the face, ride appalling,
pathetic soundproofing for the engine, passenger entrance far too narrow
with steep steps, no luggage space at all. And just to compound the
problem, used by Beeline as cheap substitutes on services which had the
ridership for a full-sized bus.
I do moan about a lot of vehicles which turn out to be unsuitable for my
disabled son (confined to an adapted pushchair), partially-sighted
mother-in-law, or whatever, but the RW was the only one that I on my own
would deliberately set out to avoid, since the disappearance of the
Transits that appeared immediately post-deregulation.
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Richard Adkins
"Jason Littlewood" <Jason.Li...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Best Bus.
> Also being of the younger generation, How about a Leyland Olympian
> with Charles Roe/Optare Coach/Express Bodywork and a tuned Leyland TL11
> engine with high speed gearing & back axle!!!! (they used to go like s&!t
> off the shovel)
> Shame about the gearbox being full auto though.
A Leyland Hydracyclic (full or semi automatic) to me is far more pleasing to
the ear than a Voith or ZF box.
>
> Worst Bus.
> It must be any MCW Metrobus or the anything by Dennis.
Agreed. I must be getting older! Certainly the present bus scene is pretty
uninteresting (for me). Indeed I feel quite notalgic for the latter days of
the NBC with RE's rubbling shoulders with Tigers and Olympians.
The current generation of buses lack the character of Leylands and Bristols.
The nearest bus like bus I've seen in recent years are Scania L113's with
Wrights bodies and Volvo Olympians.
TTFN
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Terry Harper
"Julian Hayward" <Jul...@ratbag.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <au9dk5.3...@billnot.com>, Bill Hayles
> <bil...@billnot.com> writes
> >
> >What's the WORST bus ever?
>
> London Buses' RW-class Renaults, subsequently inflicted on Slough,
> Bracknell and other First territory.
Going back a long time, my vote is for the Albion Valkyrie CX13 with a
Pickering body, as supplied to Red & White and others in 1946.
Bouncy, very spartan, and cold as charity. A major step down from their
pre-war Albions with Duple bodies.
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Tom Cumming
> Only if the front wheel is removed ;-)
>
> The height of the entrance step on an ECW RELL is very similar to an
> Optare 'Delta' believe it or not; I had a tape measure out once upon a
> time but cannot recall the precise difference.
>
> Removing the front wheel aside an operator based in Chichester removed
> some of the front spring leaves from a Marshall bodied RELL (it had 17
> leaves originally) to make the entrance step height comply with the
> (then) DipTac regulations, the other Marshall RELL was not modified thus
> providing an interesting comparison when we went down to fetch it for
> preservation.
>
> Returning to the ECW RELL I would say there is actually room to position
> a buggy (not of the heavy goods buggy variety!) in the area between the
> front wheel arches.
Sounds great fun :-) Only you would manage to call a RELL a
low-floor bus. :-)
Seriously though, my point was simply that whilst the SLF Darts
are not the most reliable or well built machines on the planet, I
still like them because a few pushchairs no longer causes late
running.
--
Tom Cumming
Tom Cumming
> Probably more to do with the fad of fitting a variety of audible alarms,
> though you probably have a very good point!
>
> Where to put one's rainforest always presented a problem, I tended to
> either dump it all on the cab floor and delicately clip the faresheet to
> the ticket machine and sort of balance it on my left knee for ease of
> vision.
A lot of the drivers round here tend to flap the tops of the
ticket machines open (the red Almex ones) and put duty cards etc
on there. Probably not what Almex intended but a good idea
nonetheless. :-)
--
Tom Cumming
Tom Cumming
> Probably more to do with the fad of fitting a variety of audible alarms,
> though you probably have a very good point!
I suppose they also have the added effect of letting the
passengers know the bus is knackered as well, which is useful if
you get a grumpy driver that does not tell you what is going on,
you can still bail out and get a different bus, before he diverts
into the depot and make you wait there while they fix the bus in
their own time! This has happened to me several times, including
one occasion when it took FWN staff over half an hour to change a
headlamp bulb!
--
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RELL6G
<t...@ncumming.eurobell.co.uk> writes
The amount of bits that have to be removed on newer stuff just to do a
headlamp can be quite alarming I'll have you know!
Billy
the headlight bulbs on an ALX is a tiring experience requiring a
chair........and the amount of effing and blinding !!.....its no wonder they
always want to do the job out of the earshot of the General Publick.
INCIDENTALLY !! Does anybody here have any opinions on the Lucas Quadoptic
headlights as fitted to the ALX 400 ??
Marky
Mercedes 0405N citybus chassis and front cowl with delta derived body
(without the leaks and rattles, because the body always fits and the chassis
doesn't bend).
Superb reliability, longevity, lovely to drive and to ride in.
The only thing against them is their residual value. You can't buy one if
you want one, because no-one will sell them - they're too damn good!
This bus will laugh at all the SLFs when they retire to Barnsley.
Marky
Richard Adkins
Coach: Leyland Tiger with Plaxton Paramount 3200 or Bristol RELH / ECW
Double Decker: Leyland Olympian / ECW lowheight NBC Spec with a Gardner 6LXB
and 5sp Hydracyclic, closely followed by the Bristol VR 3 / ECW
Single Deck: Bristol RE, with the Leyland National 2 second.
The modern stuff is just so bland and boring (with the running gear from the
truck parts bin of Global corporations).
Let the debate begin!
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"Duane Fryer" <leylanda...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> My vote goes to several machines! Having driven Dennis Tridants and Darts
> and other modern tin cans I find to be RUBBISH! At the top for me has to be
> the Leyland Titan PD2/PD3 range, good solid and reliable vehicles, closely
> followed by the Leyland engined Routemaster, far more guts than the AEC
> engined variant. For "OMO" vehicles I go for the Volvo Ailsa, great musical
> sounds, rugged and the engine is at the right end! If i have to go for a bus
> with the engine at the wrong end then i go for the Leyland Atlantean
> followed by the Bristol VR. But i will always go for a bus with the engine
> at the front and the door at the back!
> Duane
> Dave <nospam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:attciu$i1t$1...@knossos.btinternet.com...
> > I thought I might make a comment that is NOT contraversial for a change
> > (make the most of it it won't last forever) but I'm sure it will have
> > contraversial answers...
> >
> > What is the best bus ever? With consideration to the age of the vehicle.
> Ie
> > it would be unfair to put a Volve B7R ALX400 against a Routemaster. I
> mean,
> > give the Volvo a chance.
> >
> > Personally I think the Paramout 4 3500 on a Leyland Tiger is the best
> coach
> > ever, as it does lots of MPG on the motorway, refuses to break down, goes
> on
> > forever and is built like a tank.
> >
> > Over to you.
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> My votes are as follows:
>
> Coach: Leyland Tiger with Plaxton Paramount 3200 or Bristol RELH / ECW
>
> Double Decker: Leyland Olympian / ECW lowheight NBC Spec with a Gardner
6LXB
> and 5sp Hydracyclic, closely followed by the Bristol VR 3 / ECW
>
> Single Deck: Bristol RE, with the Leyland National 2 second.
I'd go for a Gloster Gardner coach rebodied by Duple, a Red & White Guy Arab
III with the Duple lowbridge body for a double-decker, and the East Kent
Dennis Lancet III with Park Royal saloon body for the single deck bus, all
personally sampled as a passenger, but never driven.
Ken Wheatley
<nos...@nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>My votes are as follows:
>
>Coach: Leyland Tiger with Plaxton Paramount 3200 or Bristol RELH / ECW
>
>Double Decker: Leyland Olympian / ECW lowheight NBC Spec with a Gardner 6LXB
>and 5sp Hydracyclic, closely followed by the Bristol VR 3 / ECW
>
>Single Deck: Bristol RE, with the Leyland National 2 second.
>
>The modern stuff is just so bland and boring (with the running gear from the
>truck parts bin of Global corporations).
>
>Let the debate begin!
>
>TTFN
Missed the start of the thread but it absolutely must be the
Routemaster.
Ian Santry
"Ken Wheatley" <k...@birchanger.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Ivor Jones
"Ian Santry" <islg...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I've always had a soft spot for RF's ...
Me too, although as the first bus I remember travelling on as a kid (I
have a very, very vague recollection of riding on a trolleybus in
Barkingside when I was around 4, but I don't count that) was an RT, so
that has to get my vote, along with its wider stablemate the RTW.
Ivor
kevinatfirstbus
Pete Baggett
"kevinatfirstbus" <kevinat...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
|bristol vr or dennis dom
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Sunbeam F4A
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