Eaiser to get the vehicle re-classified as Private heavy Goods, or PLG
camper and drive it on an ordinary licence.
Alex
Thanks for that Alex,
Not sure by 'ordinary license' you mean the one for a car.
Have had a look at the following
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/drivers/vehicle_cat_desc.htm
and it seems you would need to have one or more of Categories 'C and
C+E and/or D and D+E' to qualify.
Reg
If you held the licence before 1 Jan 1997, you should have the entitlement
to groups C & D automatically, as long as it is not for hire or reward. When
you renew at 70 years old, you have to specifically ask for C & D to be on
your licence, and have to take a medical as well. The PCV part is
additional.
You are limited to 16 passengers, but I'm not sure whether that applies to
seats fitted or bums on seats. The DVLA website is the place to look.
--
Terry Harper
http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/
Most Traffic Areas will allow the renewal of a lapsed licence provided that
it has not been expired for more than five years.
If this crtiteria is not met, then it is the full process unfortunately.
The law is not concerned with the purpose for which the vehicle was built,
not the purpose for which it is used.
Robin Clare
"Terry Harper" <Terry....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Thanks Terry,
The license has been held since 1966 and the now lapsed PSV was
gained in 1974. The back of the license shows C1, C1E, D1 and D1E but
'not' C and C+E and D and D+E. Will have to have a hunt around the
DVLA as you suggest.
Reg
When were the RM's made? If it's before 1960 then you could have it
reclassified as a goods vehicle and drive it on a cat B licence.
Alternativly, fitment of a stove and sink or toilet, and have it
reclassified as a camper, which also entitles you to drive it on
category B.
There are ways round it, but the licencing regulations are quite
complex.
Alex
Presumably you also have 79(NFHR) after the D1, and 79(=<8250kg) after the
C1, and the +E variants.
The D1 is OK for 16 seats plus the driver.
--
Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society
75th Anniversary 2004, see http://www.omnibussoc.org/75th.htm
E-mail: terry....@btinternet.com
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Have had a response from the DVLA which may clarify. It goes as
follows:
If you are referring to the vehicle as being used as an exhibition
unit then
the following will apply.
In order to drive a vehicle which is over 3.5 tonnes a driver would
normally
have to hold goods vehicle entitlement (category C1 for vehicles
between 3.5
and 7.5 tonnes and category C for vehicles which are over 7.5 tonnes).
However, certain large vehicles can be driven by the holder of full
car
entitlement (category B). The vehicle which you have described may be
deemed
to be a "mobile project vehicle" and if so could be driven by the
holder of
full car entitlement provided it meets the following conditions: -
i. the vehicle must be constructed or adapted to carry not more than 8
persons in addition to the driver and carry mainly goods or burden
which is
either play equipment or articles required for display or exhibition.
The
vehicle's primary use must be as a recreational, educational or
instructional facility, and
ii. the vehicle must only be driven to or from the place of display
or, in
the event of a breakdown, to or from the place where the vehicle is to
be
repaired, or
iii. in such circumstances that by virtue of paragraph 22 of Schedule
2 to
the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994 the vehicle is not
chargeable
with duty in respect of its use on public roads.
In addition to the above, drivers who pass a car test on or after 1
January
1997 must be aged 21 or over, have held their licence for an aggregate
period of more than 2 years and the vehicle must be driven only on
behalf of
a non-commercial body.
Reg