IPKall with Sipgate
Mark Ingle
great for incoming and outgoing local calls.
I did a web search and some have reported that they have had no problems
registering an IPKall US phone number with Sipgate, but I can't get it
to work. I initially thought that it might take longer to set the
service up, but it has been a couple of days and it still isn't working.
There are not really any settings to configure, apart from the SIP proxy
which I have put as sipgate.co.uk
Any ideas? When someone tried to phone me yesterday they said the phone
just kept on ringing; I tried a couple of times today from my Draytel
account, and I just got a long period of silence followed by a busy
tone.
Thank you for signing up. Your IPKall phone number is: 253-xxx-xxx.
SIP Phone Number: xxxxxx
SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
Jono
I seem to recall that some changes at Sipgate a couple of years ago
meant that IPKall numbers could no longer be pointed at Sipgate...
Soruk
Can your ATA or other SIP hardware manage more than one account at a
time? If so, get a free SIP account at ekiga.net - IPKall works fine
with them.
MySipSwitch.com might be worth looking at too if you can only manage one
or two SIP accounts with your hardware, but note the Betamax services
don't work well (if at all) through this.
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Ivor Jones
Jono <noth...@blueyonder.invalid> typed, for some strange, unexplained
reason:
[snip]
: I seem to recall that some changes at Sipgate a couple of years ago
: meant that IPKall numbers could no longer be pointed at Sipgate...
That's correct. I remember bringing it up with them and they said it would
be resolved but I never heard any more. I point my IPKall number at a FWD
account (which despite rumours to the contrary is still free to me, at
least I've never been asked to pay anything for it..!)
Ivor
Mark Ingle
>
> That's correct. I remember bringing it up with them and they said it would
> be resolved but I never heard any more. I point my IPKall number at a FWD
> account (which despite rumours to the contrary is still free to me, at
>
family. Between us we have a couple of Draytel accounts for which the
IPKall number does work, plus the Sipgate one, so it looks like I may
have to donate my FritzBox, which will give them the flexibility of
having multiple accounts with different providers.
I suppose it may be an excuse for me to get the 7270 FritzBox; though
that is a bit OTT for my requirements, the s/h Fritzboxes and Draytel
Vigors do not seem to be good value on eBay at the moment.
Ivor Jones
Mark Ingle <marking...@nospamfastmail.fm> typed, for some strange,
unexplained reason:
The 7270 is a bit OTT, I have the 7170 which suits my needs, 3 phone ports
and 4 LAN plus WLAN & USB. AVM have just released new firmware which also
gives it a built in answerphone amongst other things but I haven't managed
to get that to work so far.
For some strange reason Sipgate don't sell the 7170 in the UK (although
they do in Germany) but I got mine at www.voipon.co.uk
Ivor
Philippe Deleye
"Ivor Jones" <iv...@thisaddressis.invalid> schreef in bericht
news:6v95mkF...@mid.individual.net...
>
> For some strange reason Sipgate don't sell the 7170 in the UK (although
> they do in Germany) but I got mine at www.voipon.co.uk
>
and convert to english / annex A
Philippe
Mark Ingle
> You can easely buy a 2nd hand German 7170 on ebay.de for max 50.00 EUR
> and convert to english / annex A
Yes, you're right; the 7170s seem to be going for 41-46 Euro on ebay.de
atm. However, if you don't understand German, it can be rather difficult
to ascertain whether they will send to UK, since these items are not
available on ebay.co.uk
André Tuytschaver
If you are logged in "my ebay", you will see the delivery costs to your
location just at the right of the last bid.
This is only possible if the seller made the calculation, if not you
just send a message to ask him; but not everyone answers and not all
items are at reasonable price, so I should advice to contact 3 or 4 at
the same time. Do not hesitate to write in english, "how much does it
cost to send it to ......" is easy to understand.
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Ivor Jones
Philippe Deleye <philipp...@hotmail.com> typed, for some strange,
unexplained reason:
: "Ivor Jones" <iv...@thisaddressis.invalid> schreef in bericht
Aren't there hardware differences between Annex A and B devices..?
Ivor
Mark Ingle
> If you are logged in "my ebay", you will see the delivery costs to your
> location just at the right of the last bid.
> This is only possible if the seller made the calculation, if not you
> just send a message to ask him; but not everyone answers and not all
>
Thanks for that tip; I will try that!
alexd
> In news:4995e843$0$2860$ba62...@news.skynet.be,
> Philippe Deleye <philipp...@hotmail.com> typed
> : You can easely buy a 2nd hand German 7170 on ebay.de for max 50.00 EUR
> : and convert to english / annex A
> : Philippe
>
> Aren't there hardware differences between Annex A and B devices..?
You would think so, but it would make sense for AVM to use a chipset that
can do either at the flick of a software switch, that way they only have
one SKU to keep track of which keeps costs down.
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sipSdkGuru
> On 2009-02-07, Jono <notha...@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mark Ingle formulated on Saturday :
> >> I'm trying out a sipgate account on my Starcom phone, and it is working
> >> great for incoming and outgoing local calls.
>
> >> I did a web search and some have reported that they have had no problems
> >> registering an IPKall US phone number with Sipgate, but I can't get it
> >> to work. I initially thought that it might take longer to set the
> >> service up, but it has been a couple of days and it still isn't working.
>
> >> There are not really any settings to configure, apart from the SIP proxy
> >> which I have put as sipgate.co.uk
>
> >> Any ideas? When someone tried to phone me yesterday they said the phone
> >> just kept on ringing; I tried a couple of times today from my Draytel
> >> account, and I just got a long period of silence followed by a busy
> >> tone.
>
> >> Thank you for signing up. Your IPKall phone number is: 253-xxx-xxx.
> >> SIP Phone Number: xxxxxx
> >> SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>
> > I seem to recall that some changes at Sipgate a couple of years ago
> > meant that IPKall numbers could no longer be pointed at Sipgate...
>
> Can your ATA or other SIP hardware manage more than one account at a
> with them.
>
> MySipSwitch.com might be worth looking at too if you can only manage one
> or two SIP accounts with your hardware, but note the Betamax services
> don't work well (if at all) through this.
>
> --
> -- Michael "Soruk" McConnell Eridani Star System
> Second Number -http://secondnumber.matrixnetwork.co.uk/
I tried this and it fits my needs.
<a href="http://abtollc.com/SIP-VoIP.aspx">http://abtollc.com/SIP-
VoIP.aspx</a>
Steve Hayes
I haven't tried to use this for years since it didn't do quite what I wanted
but...
If you have a static IP address where your Sipgate phone is installed (e.g.
your ATA), try setting the number you point your IPKall number to as your 8
digit Sipgate number and the proxy as your own IP address. If you have a
dynamic IP address and are registered with a dynamic DNS service, you should
be able to use the address this gives you for the proxy.
Basically, this has IPKall send the call directly to you instead of via
Sipgate. The number needs to match or your phone/ATA will reject the call.
What it won't do is ring phones at more than one location, allow forwarding
(IPKall don't accept the redirect) or go to Sipgate voice mail. Those are
the reasons I gave up on it.
You'll probably have to forward at least port 5060 on your router to the
phone or ATA. Otherwise, notification of incoming calls will get blocked at
your firewall.
Good luck.
--
Steve Hayes, South Wales, U.K.
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Ivor Jones
Steve Hayes <st...@red.honeylink.blue.co.uk> typed, for some strange,
unexplained reason:
[snip]
: I haven't tried to use this for years since it didn't do quite what I
: wanted but...
:
: If you have a static IP address where your Sipgate phone is installed
: (e.g. your ATA), try setting the number you point your IPKall number
: to as your 8 digit Sipgate number and the proxy as your own IP
: address. If you have a dynamic IP address and are registered with a
: dynamic DNS service, you should be able to use the address this gives
: you for the proxy.
:
: Basically, this has IPKall send the call directly to you instead of
: via Sipgate. The number needs to match or your phone/ATA will reject
: the call.
:
: What it won't do is ring phones at more than one location, allow
: forwarding (IPKall don't accept the redirect) or go to Sipgate voice
: mail. Those are the reasons I gave up on it.
:
: You'll probably have to forward at least port 5060 on your router to
: the phone or ATA. Otherwise, notification of incoming calls will get
: blocked at your firewall.
:
: Good luck.
Sipgate don't peer with IPKall. They used to but it was blocked for some
reason a couple of years ago. From what I understand the block was
supposed to have been removed but something needed to be set at IPKall's
end but so far hasn't been. That's the extent of my info and that's a
couple of years out of date so it looks like nothing has changed.
I had a FWD number I used to use to terminate my IPKall number, now that's
died I point it at my Gradwell account.
Ivor
Steve Hayes
My experience was exactly the same. At one time, IPKall could be pointed to
Sipgate (and Sipgate was very unreliable). Then Sipgate changed things. They
became reliable but would no longer accept calls via IPKall (collateral
damage, I assume). I remember you posting about this at the time - thanks.
When this happened, I alighted on the solution I described. The call never
touches Sipgate themselves and it worked fine except, as I said, it didn't
do quite what I wanted. The biggest problem for me was that redirecting
calls in the normal fashion wouldn't work (because IPKall wouldn't accept a
redirect) and it wasn't used enough to justify making an additional visit to
IPKall's website every time to change the forwarding there as well. It may
well do all that the original poster needs without them having to open a
separate account and have a phone or ATA able to handle multiple accounts.
I'd try it again to see if it still works (I don't see why it wouldn't) but
my IPKall number has probably expired by now.
A related observation: I notice that, where the Sipgate website used to have
peering details for a lot of other networks, there are only one or two left.
Have the others folded or are they and/or Sipgate themselves not
cooperating, perhaps in the understandable hope of getting some revenue?
Whatever, the method I described can also be used with at least some phones
or ATAs to call users of different networks directly. I managed to do this
with a pair of SPA3102s but it was a lot harder than it should be since the
default configurations seem to lie about their IP addresses.
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Steve Hayes
South Wales, UK
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CygTest
Graham. <graham...@mail.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 05 Nov 2016 12:07:16 +0000, "Anthony R. Gold"
><not-fo...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
>>On Fri, 4 Nov 2016 22:59:31 -0700 (PDT), ziata...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Saturday, February 7, 2009 at 4:11:53 PM UTC+5, Mark Ingle wrote:
>>
>>
>>http://www.ipkall.com/
>
>The post appears to originate from 39.33.30.134 Islamabad, Pakistan.
>Notably a spammer who is too thick to include his payload.
>
Even when IPKALL was working, Sipgate wouldn't accept forwarded sip calls. Draytel did though. RIP.
Graham.
you check out the thread dredged up by the spammer here
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/uk.telecom.voip/xNzdYwh1ixw/PARLZkBXoUUJ
it would appear not to have always been the case.
Betamax accounts give you the best of both worlds because the user can
forward anonymous URIs to their account, or switch the feature off for
security. Very useful for getting outgoing and incoming (from ukddi)
on a device with provision only for one account.
ukddi is also no more, but forwarded URIs still work!
It's such a pity that my main block of DDIs were handled by a
registered trunk and now are lost.
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Graham.
%Profound_observation%
Ria Elaine Gray-Jones
In any case, Sipgate blocked 3rd party servers a long time ago.
I now use Callcentric with Gradwell with no problems.
Ria
Ria Elaine Gray-Jones
>> I now use Callcentric with Gradwell with no problems.
>
> does it add for you?
I just forward the Callcentric number to it. I set up the Gradwell
number a long time ago when Sipgate were having problems and have had it
ever since.
Ria
Ria Elaine Gray-Jones
> My various SIP phones connect directly to callcentric.com to receive or
> place calls. What is the benefit of placing Gradwell in the middle? That
> seems like adding an extra point of potential failure with no clear benefit.
>
Ok, didn realise that. I just changed to Callcentric when IPKall died.
Will have to look into it, thanks.
Ria