Re: [03 geographic range] Ofcom plans future of UK Telephone Numbering
Solario
Paul Cupis wrote:
> Ofcom plans future of UK Telephone Numbering
> http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/news/2006/07/nr_20060727
>
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> Ofcom will introduce new UK-wide 03 numbers from early next year. Calls
> to 03 numbers will cost the same as calls to geographic numbers, and be
> included as part of any inclusive call minutes or discount schemes for
> geographic calls. This will apply to calls from any line. No revenue
> sharing will be permitted on calls to 03 numbers.
>
> The introduction of 03 numbers will enable organisations to offer
> consumers a single national point of contact without making additional
> charges for the service. This should give consumers confidence about
> calling 03 and Ofcom expects public services and many others to view 03
> numbers as more appropriate than chargeable 08 numbers.
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FYI, I have added uk.telecom.voip to this thread because area code
allocation is of interest to VoIP users.
Firstly, I think Ofcom are making a short-sighted chang of direction.
Area code structures should be simple and easily understood. I would
hold up NANP as a model that the UK and associated territories should
try to better.
The previous goal seemed to be to eventually move the UK to a numbering
system based on two digit area codes and eight digit numbers. I
thought the only provision was that this would only happen as area
codes run out of numbers. Complete conversion therefore was to be a
long way in the future.
There are insufficient codes in the "2N" range to cover the UK. To my
mind the natural overflow would be into the "3X" range. Perhaps we
could have had England, Wales and Northern Ireland using "2N" area
codes and Scotland using "3N".
Since "4N" is available, would it not have made more sense to utilize
it for nationwide dialing? And what of "5N"? This seems to be an odd
mixture of free to caller services, e.g. 0500 and unwanted VoIP 'areas'
e.g. 056.
Surely Ofcom can apply a little common sense to this process. We were
off to such a good start.
Adrian.
Solario
Paul Cupis wrote:
> Ofcom plans future of UK Telephone Numbering
> http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/news/2006/07/nr_20060727
>
> *******
> numbers, which are often confused with mobile numbers. Ofcom will end
> 070 personal numbering allocations from the end of 2007, and from early
> 2007 customers will have to get a pre-call announcement of call charges
> for any calls above a certain price.
>
> During 2007 Ofcom will assess demand for genuine personal numbering
> services and may then open replacement 06 numbers for them. This will
> allow 07 numbers to be used only for mobile services, ending any
> potential confusion.
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Well thank you Ofcom! I seriously believed when I took a personal
number, just after they were first introduced, that it was mine for
life. I do not abuse it. Potential customers and my family can reach
me wherever I am. At times my personal number even reaches me on my
mobile in the US.
Why should people like me be punished because others have abused the
system?
S.
Paul Cupis
I don't think that they will be revoking the existing PNS number, they
say that they will not be issuing any more 070 ranges to operators from
the end of 2007.
After that, PNS call with charges greater than a threshold (to be
defined, maybe 20ppm), will have to have a charge-announcement.
I do not think they are saying that you'll have to surrender your
current 070 number (or that it will be removed by them).
Of course, the PNS number is not really /yours/, but belongs to the
range holder (as assigned by Ofcom).
Solario
Thanks Paul,
Digital Mail/Redstone told me that it was mine! :-)
BTW, it is a 07050. Does anyone know where can I locate the current
cost for calling it? I believe it is not especially expensive to call.
S.
Jono
I think you are mistaken
<http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/current/docs/Call_Charges.boo/00161.htm>
07050 is either j or k rate - 31.99p or 37.495, depending on the 6th
digit.
Andy Pandy
"Solario" <adrian.a...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1154025278....@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> BTW, it is a 07050. Does anyone know where can I locate the current
> cost for calling it? I believe it is not especially expensive to call.
Need the next digit. Either a k or j charge band:
http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/current/docs/Call_Charges.boo/16311.htm
About 32p or 37.5p per min peak. Cheaper off peak.
http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/current/docs/Call_Charges.boo/00161.htm
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Andy
news
<pa...@cupis.co.uk> writes
>
>I don't think that they will be revoking the existing PNS number, they
>say that they will not be issuing any more 070 ranges to operators from
>the end of 2007.
>
>current 070 number (or that it will be removed by them).
>
Erm, what they said was:
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During 2007 Ofcom will assess demand for genuine personal numbering
services and may then open replacement 06 numbers for them.
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To me, this means that there is a real possibility that 07 personal
numbers will be replaced by 06 numbers if the demand for genuine 07
personal numbers is not perceived to be high enough.
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Ian
Paul Cupis
Ah yes, sorry, I was thinking of the shorter term of 2007 (which is when
most of the changes in the document are slated for).
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If 06 is opened then [end of 2007], current 070 services would be
expected to transfer by the end of July 2009, and we would cease to
allocate new 070 personal numbers after 2007. As part of this review
Ofcom will attempt to contact all providers who have been allocated 070
personal numbers.
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