Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Is it possible to record mobile calls

4 views
Skip to first unread message

peter ball

unread,
Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
to
Got a Nokia 5110, and quite often I'd like to record
technical calls with technical support people
for later reference. Is it poss to buy cables /
connectors to do this?
Peter
--
When all is said, and nothing is done,
you have been in a meeting with management.

Dave

unread,
Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
to
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:54:29 +0000, peter ball <goodo...@bt.com>
wrote:

>Got a Nokia 5110, and quite often I'd like to record
>technical calls with technical support people
>for later reference. Is it poss to buy cables /
>connectors to do this?

http://www.hut.fi/~ptuomine/nokia/hifiset/index.htm

There is a circuit there to do this. It works quite well with my PC
soundcard, just have to sort out some software to answer the call too!

Cheers

Dave

Ben Starr

unread,
Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
to
Might not be of much use but bear in mind that there are mobiles out there
that can record conversations (or memos to yourself). I think NEC makes one,
not sure of any others - anyone?

Ben Starr
benjamin...@nospam.hotmail.com
(Please note my e-mail address has been altered to avoid spammers,
remove "nospam." if you wish to e-mail me)

Dr.2k

unread,
Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
to
The easiest way is to get a handsfree kit, rip of the ear peace and
solder a microphone socket to it, plug it into any microphone socket
and record.

On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:54:29 +0000, peter ball <goodo...@bt.com>
wrote:

>Got a Nokia 5110, and quite often I'd like to record
>technical calls with technical support people
>for later reference. Is it poss to buy cables /
>connectors to do this?

>Peter


Carl

unread,
Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
to

peter ball wrote in message <38BD2F24...@bt.com>...

>Got a Nokia 5110, and quite often I'd like to record
>technical calls with technical support people
>for later reference. Is it poss to buy cables /
>connectors to do this?
>Peter
Dont forget: You MUST ask the other parties permission/inform them of this
or it is illegal.
Carl.

Mark Corfield

unread,
Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
to
In article <89joki$8va$1...@uranium.btinternet.com>,
carlj...@bigfootREMOVEME.com says...
I thought that calls could be recorded for training purposes without
permission. I know several high profile companies that record calls
without mentioning it in the automated part at the beginning.

Farrukh

unread,
Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
to
The Motorola Monte Carlo.

However, it can only record the other persons voice and they hear a beep
beep when it's recording.


Ben Starr <benjamin...@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:951929986.5640.0...@news.demon.co.uk...

Mike B

unread,
Mar 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/1/00
to
Farrukh <nok...@freenetname.co.uk> wrote in message news:89ka72$5ef$1...@gxsn.com...

> The Motorola Monte Carlo.
>
> However, it can only record the other persons voice and they hear a beep
> beep when it's recording.

Siemens S25 can record both parts of the call completely silently, just
like a tape recorder, but only 20 seconds maximum. A shame it's so
short, as it it's very useful to me as I often have to pull over in the
car write down an address of phone number or whatever. So long
as the other party speaks quickly and clearly, it's brilliant tool.

Mike

Ben Starr

unread,
Mar 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/2/00
to
But where the number is published it usually has a note saying that calls
may be recorded for security or training purposes. See this in ads for ISAs
and stuff.

Jason O'Brian

unread,
Mar 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/2/00
to
On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:48:05 -0000, "Carl"
<carlj...@bigfootREMOVEME.com> wrote:

>Dont forget: You MUST ask the other parties permission/inform them of this
>or it is illegal.

No - so long as one party to the conversation knows the call is being
recorded that is sufficient.

So, if you are recording your own calls that is OK - there is no need
to tell anyone else.

jas


Adam Best

unread,
Mar 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/2/00
to
In article <mdusbs0grfkbd36kv...@4ax.com>, Jason O'Brian
wrote:

> No - so long as one party to the conversation knows the call is
> being
> recorded that is sufficient.
>
> So, if you are recording your own calls that is OK - there is no
> need
> to tell anyone else.

Not true, provisions are that you should make every reasonable effort
to inform all parties to a call that it may or will be recorded.

--

Adam

Jason O'Brian

unread,
Mar 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/2/00
to
On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:16:47 GMT, Adam Best <ne...@abest.co.uk> wrote:

>Not true, provisions are that you should make every reasonable effort
>to inform all parties to a call that it may or will be recorded.
>

Hi Adam

I guess you are referring to OFTEL's "guidance on recording of
telephone conversations" which can be found at:
http://www.oftel.gov.uk/releases/pr47_99.htm

Firstly this, as the title implies, is only "guidance" and not legally
binding, which is the point I was answering when I replied to

"Carl" <carlj...@bigfootREMOVEME.com> who wrote:

"Don't forget: You MUST ask the other parties permission/inform them


of this or it is illegal".

The OFTEL "guidance" paper was issued in response to a Home Office
circular on the matter of guidance to companies covering their
responsibilities over recording phone calls for business purposes and
in particular the recording of staff phone calls without either party
to the call knowing they were being recorded.

This came about following a European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR)
decision in June 1997 on the case of Halford vs UK. The essence of the
judgement was that interception of a person’s office telephone can
constitute an interference with the right to respect for their private
life established under Article 8 ECHR

AFAIK there is no *legal* requirement "to inform all parties to a call
that it may or will be recorded", so long as at least one party is
aware.


jas


Mark Francis Brian Kelly

unread,
Mar 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/3/00
to
On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:16:47 GMT, Adam Best <ne...@abest.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <mdusbs0grfkbd36kv...@4ax.com>, Jason O'Brian
>wrote:
>> No - so long as one party to the conversation knows the call is
>> being
>> recorded that is sufficient.
>>
>> So, if you are recording your own calls that is OK - there is no
>> need
>> to tell anyone else.
>

>Not true, provisions are that you should make every reasonable effort
>to inform all parties to a call that it may or will be recorded.
>

The latter person is correct you have to legally have to tell the
other party that you are recording, but in actual fact if it is just
to friends it isn't going to make much difference... and if it is a
company still does not matter... Anyway Motorola Mr602, CD920, CD930,
TimePort L7089 have 3 minutes of recording time....
-----------------------------
REMOVE STOPINTERNETJUNKEMAIL
-----------------------------

Martin Fiddler

unread,
Mar 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/3/00
to
I have a motorolla L7089 timeport. This records up to 3 minutes of telephone
conversation. Although the manual and literature says it only records the voice
of the person being called, mine records both sides of the conversation, very
clearly too. It bleeps every 15 seconds or so, to warn the person being called
that recording is taking place.

In article <951929986.5640.0...@news.demon.co.uk>,
benjamin...@nospam.hotmail.com says...


>
>Might not be of much use but bear in mind that there are mobiles out there
>that can record conversations (or memos to yourself). I think NEC makes one,
>not sure of any others - anyone?
>

>Ben Starr
>benjamin...@nospam.hotmail.com
>(Please note my e-mail address has been altered to avoid spammers,
>remove "nospam." if you wish to e-mail me)
>
>

--
Martin
Email: MFid...@hotmail.com


Adam Best

unread,
Mar 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/3/00
to
On Fri, 03 Mar 2000 19:33:29 GMT, in uk.telecom.mobile you wrote:

>Provisions of /what/ exactly? I've never heard of any law requiring
>this. Have you?

They are the provisions from Oftel, I believe in advance of
legislation, if it's not already covered I believe by Section 22 of
the Telecommunications Act 1984.

--

Adam

--

Adam

All e-mail messages to this address are
deleted unread.

Jason O'Brian

unread,
Mar 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/4/00
to
On Fri, 03 Mar 2000 21:17:01 GMT, Adam Best <ne...@abest.co.uk> wrote:

>They are the provisions from Oftel, I believe in advance of

>legislation, if it's not already covered...

Ah, yes "in advance of proposed legislative changes", which I trust
refers to the document I have already highlighted in this thread at:

http://www.oftel.gov.uk/releases/pr47_99.htm

The OFTEL "guidance" paper was issued in response to a Home Office
circular on the matter of guidance to companies covering their
responsibilities over recording phone calls for business purposes and
in particular the recording of staff phone calls without either party
to the call knowing they were being recorded.

This came about following a European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR)

decision in June 1997 on the case of Halford vs UK and deals with the
matter of recording telephone conversations on *private networks*.

The essence of the judgement was that interception of a person’s
office telephone can constitute an interference with the right to
respect for their private life established under Article 8 ECHR

On *public networks*, it is ilegal to record any telephone
conversations without:

1. One party to the conversation being aware of the recording;
2. An order from the Home Secretary; or
3. The phone company acting to protect their network from malicious
acts.

AFAIK ;-)

jas

0 new messages