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divoch
Aug 7, 2012, 12:19:14 PM8/7/12
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In Wikipedia under LycaMobile products it reads: .... In the United
Kingdom, LycaMobile and Lebara have been branded "foreign networks" and
calls to such numbers are charged at international rates, not local rates.
Can anyone confirm or correct this statement? Is Vectone considered to be
UK network?
divoch
Kingdom, LycaMobile and Lebara have been branded "foreign networks" and
calls to such numbers are charged at international rates, not local rates.
Can anyone confirm or correct this statement? Is Vectone considered to be
UK network?
divoch
Graham.
Aug 7, 2012, 12:52:41 PM8/7/12
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comparison is a bit meaninless. Wouldn't you use something like
"domestic mobile rate" as the comparison?
Wouldn't it be up to the calling telco what to charge? Some already
operate a differential, eg some telcos charge more to call a
Hutchison 3g phone than the other UK netwoks.
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Aug 7, 2012, 5:38:45 PM8/7/12
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"Graham." wrote in message
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On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 17:19:14 +0100, "divoch"
<div...@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
>In Wikipedia under LycaMobile products it reads: .... In the United
>Kingdom, LycaMobile and Lebara have been branded "foreign networks" and
>calls to such numbers are charged at international rates, not local rates.
>Can anyone confirm or correct this statement? Is Vectone considered to be
>UK network?
>It dosn't sound right, and even if it was, using "local rates" as the
>comparison is a bit meaninless. Wouldn't you use something like
>"domestic mobile rate" as the comparison?
>Wouldn't it be up to the calling telco what to charge? Some already
>operate a differential, eg some telcos charge more to call a
>Hutchison 3g phone than the other UK netwoks.
What I think they mean is that the call to LycaMobile is treated as an
>comparison is a bit meaninless. Wouldn't you use something like
>"domestic mobile rate" as the comparison?
>Wouldn't it be up to the calling telco what to charge? Some already
>operate a differential, eg some telcos charge more to call a
>Hutchison 3g phone than the other UK netwoks.
international call to a foreign mobile
divoch
R. Mark Clayton
Aug 8, 2012, 8:07:42 AM8/8/12
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There are three possibilities: -
1. UK number +447...
2. Foreign number (e.g. Liechtenstein) +nn
3. Jersey or IoM numbers - still +447, but very expensive to call from UK
and not in mobile bundles.
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1. UK number +447...
2. Foreign number (e.g. Liechtenstein) +nn
3. Jersey or IoM numbers - still +447, but very expensive to call from UK
and not in mobile bundles.
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Soruk
Aug 8, 2012, 12:13:03 PM8/8/12
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minutes, and I don't think Orange do either. I believe O2 do though.
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Steve Hayes
Aug 8, 2012, 4:44:04 PM8/8/12
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I have an old Lycamobile number starting 07529: googling for that shows
it as an Orange number range. That fits: those old SIMs use the Orange
network and the SIM works fine in an elderly Orange branded and locked
phone.
It'd be very odd if the telcos are analysing beyond the 07529 part to
rate calls and they can't be charging a packet for calls to Orange
mobiles.
Can't be 100% sure since the number is very rarely called but I haven't
heard about any big bills.
I'd be interested to hear an authoritative answer. A related question
comes to mind too:
Some landline telcos do (did?) charge more for calls to 3 mobiles.
Theoretically, you could look up a number before calling it to see how
it's to be charged and it seems a basic principle that you should be able
to tell what a call will cost before making it. But what happens when a
number is ported?
Steve
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Bob Eager
Aug 8, 2012, 5:16:02 PM8/8/12
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still charged the 'to 3' rate.
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Andy Burns
Aug 8, 2012, 5:16:36 PM8/8/12
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Steve Hayes wrote:
> It'd be very odd if the telcos are analysing beyond the 07529 part to
> rate calls
Dunno about the fixed-line telcos, but (some of?) the mobile ones
> It'd be very odd if the telcos are analysing beyond the 07529 part to
> rate calls
analyse all digits, so they can tell if the current network of ported
numbers is their own, or a competitor.
Graham.
Aug 8, 2012, 6:16:37 PM8/8/12
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I thought Skypeout charged more for Hutchison 3G numbers but it
appears I am wrong or out of date. Their list does split the mobile
estate into six viz H3G, O2, Orange, Others, T-mobile, & Vodafone but
they all show the same rate, 14.9p/min
The Vonage website doesn't appear to be able to display a listing so
that you can compare easily. Instead you have to type in a six digit
prefix. H3G do appear to be charged at a premium compared to the rest
20p/min against 12p/min. Except at weekends when they are all 12p/min
http://www.vonage.co.uk/call-plans/UK-rates/
The website doesn't look like it is intelligent enough to recognise a
ported number, I wonder if the actual service can.
It's amassing how much people will pay to call a mobile with VoIP, I
pay less than 2.3p/min
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Graham.
Aug 8, 2012, 6:27:36 PM8/8/12
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2012 23:16:37 +0100, Graham. <m...@privacy.net.invalid>
wrote:
Voipfone clearly states it charges more for Lyca
http://www.voipfone.co.uk/prices_new.php
Perhaps if someone knows a Lyca number they could see if it's
identified as such when keyed into the "Enter number" field on the
page.
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Graham.
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wrote:
http://www.voipfone.co.uk/prices_new.php
Perhaps if someone knows a Lyca number they could see if it's
identified as such when keyed into the "Enter number" field on the
page.
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Roland Perry
Aug 9, 2012, 3:28:08 AM8/9/12
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In message <jvuj2k$dih$1...@localhost.localdomain>, at 20:44:04 on Wed, 8
Aug 2012, Steve Hayes <st...@red.honeylink.blue.co.uk> remarked:
>It'd be very odd if the telcos are analysing beyond the 07529 part to
>rate calls and they can't be charging a packet for calls to Orange
>mobiles.
I've just printed out my telco's price list (all 48 pages!) and it makes
the following 'headline' distinction:
07 UK Mobiles (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, 3)
9p connection fee, 9p/min daytime, 7p/min Evening
07 All other UK Mobiles
9p connection fee, 22p/min daytime, 20p/min Evening
I was going to make a call to Giff Gaff and see what it costs... but
they go on to say that the call is charged at the rate appropriate for
the pre-ported number, so in my case that's Orange.
But elsewhere O2 has a table of costs (this time 68 pages long) with
mobiles broken down into very many number ranges, and 0752-9 is listed
as 'fm4', which is 'Orange'.
http://broadband.o2.co.uk/downloads/O2_Number_Ranges.pdf
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Roland Perry
Aug 2012, Steve Hayes <st...@red.honeylink.blue.co.uk> remarked:
>It'd be very odd if the telcos are analysing beyond the 07529 part to
>rate calls and they can't be charging a packet for calls to Orange
>mobiles.
the following 'headline' distinction:
07 UK Mobiles (O2, Vodafone, Orange, T-Mobile, Virgin, 3)
9p connection fee, 9p/min daytime, 7p/min Evening
07 All other UK Mobiles
9p connection fee, 22p/min daytime, 20p/min Evening
I was going to make a call to Giff Gaff and see what it costs... but
they go on to say that the call is charged at the rate appropriate for
the pre-ported number, so in my case that's Orange.
But elsewhere O2 has a table of costs (this time 68 pages long) with
mobiles broken down into very many number ranges, and 0752-9 is listed
as 'fm4', which is 'Orange'.
http://broadband.o2.co.uk/downloads/O2_Number_Ranges.pdf
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Soruk
Aug 9, 2012, 11:40:46 AM8/9/12
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