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earlforbes

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Oct 30, 2001, 5:07:28 AM10/30/01
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Anyone knows where I can buy sim cards that still have the old one2one
tariffs such as

One -2 - Evening National
One -2 - Evening National gives you free local and national calls between
6pm and midnight, Monday to Friday. Thats up to 30 hrs in any one week, when
you can make local and national calls free.


One - 2 - Weekend National
One - 2 - Weekend National you get free local and national calls midnight
Friday and midnight Sunday - up to 48 hours in any one week, for free local
and national calls to anywhere in the UK.


Precept Daytime National
Precept Daytime National, local and national calls are free between 7am and
7pm Monday to Friday - Thats up to 12 hours a day, five days a week, in any
one week, to anywhere in the country, absolutely free.

I appreciate if anyone can give me websites or dealers who still sell these
sim cards that are still in contract. Thanks

Simon Ough

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Oct 30, 2001, 5:29:15 AM10/30/01
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One queston..... Why?

One2One are starting a new promotional tariff on Thursday, where for £20 you
get unlimited local, national and calls to one2one phones for £20/month.
One2Weekend National was £20 and One2Evening National was £25, but are not
as good as the new offering.

One2Daytime National at £59 gave free local and national calls 7am-7pm
Mon-Fri. Anytime Max gives you unlimited time at any time to local, national
and one2one phones for a little more.

The new offerings even make the old PersonalCall tariffs seem lame :)

Simon

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Stephen Plume

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Oct 30, 2001, 5:37:35 AM10/30/01
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Simon Ough <si...@madhouse2000.greatxscape.net> wrote in message
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> The new offerings even make the old PersonalCall tariffs seem lame :)

AKA Bronze or is this something else?
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Simon Ough

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Oct 30, 2001, 6:18:00 AM10/30/01
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Bronze was around at the same time. £17.63/month. 29p/min Peak, 6p/min Off
Peak to Landlines, 29p/min Peak, 12p/min Off Peak to One2One phones, 50p/min
at all times to other networks. No free minutes, peak times 7am-6pm,
Mon-Friday.

Simon

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Simon Ough

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Oct 30, 2001, 6:25:48 AM10/30/01
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PS: Personall call was different. It offered free local calls evenings and
weekends, and used to cost about £18/month to start with, but the price has
been going up over recent years. I think it's about £28/month now. May as
well ditch it, as you have to pay 6p/min for voicemail on that tariff, I
believe.

Simon

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Stephen Plume

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Oct 30, 2001, 6:28:27 AM10/30/01
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Simon Ough <si...@madhouse2000.greatxscape.net> wrote in message
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> PS: Personall call was different. It offered free local calls evenings and
> weekends, and used to cost about £18/month to start with, but the price
has
> been going up over recent years. I think it's about £28/month now. May as
> well ditch it, as you have to pay 6p/min for voicemail on that tariff, I
> believe.

I'm far too young to remember it but I think I do...

Jon Pitts

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Oct 30, 2001, 8:41:54 AM10/30/01
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Anytime Max gives you unlimited time at any time to local, national
> and one2one phones for a little more.

Except it's not unlimited at all, it is limited to 3000 minutes a month. A
different thing entirely.


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Stephen Plume

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Oct 30, 2001, 8:45:51 AM10/30/01
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> Except it's not unlimited at all, it is limited to 3000 minutes a month. A
> different thing entirely.

Has the fair use policy ever been used though?

Chris Spyrou

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Oct 30, 2001, 9:26:20 AM10/30/01
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"Stephen Plume" <itookthisaddressfrom...@hatebt.com> wrote
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> Jon Pitts <j...@pitts50.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:100444931...@hebe.uk.clara.net...
> > Except it's not unlimited at all, it is limited to 3000 minutes a month.
A
> > different thing entirely.
>
> Has the fair use policy ever been used though?

What does 'your contact' have to say on the matter? :)

I don't think it's something One2One will advertise though.

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Stephen Plume

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Oct 30, 2001, 9:36:39 AM10/30/01
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Chris Spyrou <chris....@NOSPAMnumero.co.uk> wrote in message
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> What does 'your contact' have to say on the matter? :)

Not sure at all what you're smiling at! :-)

I can ask him when I next see him though...

> I don't think it's something One2One will advertise though.

Possibly not.

Jon Parker

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Oct 30, 2001, 10:23:10 AM10/30/01
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Jon Pitts spoke the words...

> Except it's not unlimited at all, it is limited to 3000 minutes a month. A
> different thing entirely.

It's not limited to 3000 minutes atall. The fair use policy is designed to
dis-courage people from using MAX like a baby monitor for example. If you
make legitimate calls, they will not penalise you. If you leave it connected
24/7, you will be moved onto a different tariff.
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Chris Spyrou

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Oct 30, 2001, 11:06:46 AM10/30/01
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"Jon Parker" <jon.p...@vizzavi.net> wrote in message
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> Jon Pitts spoke the words...
> > Except it's not unlimited at all, it is limited to 3000 minutes a month.
A
> > different thing entirely.
>
> It's not limited to 3000 minutes atall. The fair use policy is designed to
> dis-courage people from using MAX like a baby monitor for example. If you
> make legitimate calls, they will not penalise you. If you leave it
connected
> 24/7, you will be moved onto a different tariff.

OK so I make 5000 mins of legitimate calls per month,
possibly more. Is the fair use policy not going to come
into play?

Just in case this is One2One's own description:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
To ensure the provision of a quality service to all our
customers and to ensure that the behaviour of some
does not disadvantage the majority of our customers
we may request customers who make excessive use
of free calls to reduce their usage of these calls.

If usage continues to be excessive, One 2 One may
move these users to another currently available time
plan, they may lose the right to move back to that
original plan. One 2 One currently considers
"excessive" use to be more than 3,000 minutes of
free calls per month.

We reserve the right to vary this policy, but we will
notify you if we do.

Jon Pitts

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Oct 30, 2001, 12:05:22 PM10/30/01
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Jon Parker <jon.p...@vizzavi.net> wrote in message
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> Jon Pitts spoke the words...
> > Except it's not unlimited at all, it is limited to 3000 minutes a month.
A
> > different thing entirely.
>
> It's not limited to 3000 minutes atall. The fair use policy is designed to
> dis-courage people from using MAX like a baby monitor for example. If you
> make legitimate calls, they will not penalise you. If you leave it
connected
> 24/7, you will be moved onto a different tariff.
> --
>

I agree with Chris Spyrou's posts on this subject, however one thing cannot
be disputed. One 2 One advertise Precept/Anytime Max as "unlimited" calls -
that is clearly not the case. How strictly enforced any limit is, could be
debated until we're blue in the face, however the fact remains that there is
a limit in place - meaning One2One's claims of *unlimited* calls are at best
misleading, at worst downright fraudulent.

Chris Spyrou

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Oct 30, 2001, 12:36:39 PM10/30/01
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"Jon Pitts" <j...@pitts50.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> I agree with Chris Spyrou's posts on this subject, however one thing
cannot
> be disputed. One 2 One advertise Precept/Anytime Max as "unlimited"
calls -
> that is clearly not the case. How strictly enforced any limit is, could be
> debated until we're blue in the face, however the fact remains that there
is
> a limit in place - meaning One2One's claims of *unlimited* calls are at
best
> misleading, at worst downright fraudulent.

My personal opinion is that One2One (as well as Genie)
should be forced to change the tariff name to one more
suitable and in line with the tariff structure. At the end of
the day you can't have something that's unlimited and at
the same time isn't.

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Ant Eater

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Oct 30, 2001, 1:43:56 PM10/30/01
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> My personal opinion is that One2One (as well as Genie)
> should be forced to change the tariff name to one more
> suitable and in line with the tariff structure. At the end of
> the day you can't have something that's unlimited and at
> the same time isn't.
>

Genie have changed the name of their tariffs, and now advertise the fact
that you get 600 inclusive texts a month with a contract tariff and 300 with
a prepay tariff. After that they charge 10p per message


Jon Parker

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Oct 30, 2001, 2:27:23 PM10/30/01
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Chris Spyrou spoke the words...

> OK so I make 5000 mins of legitimate calls per month,
> possibly more. Is the fair use policy not going to come
> into play?

I take your point Chris, but from what i have learned of the fair use
policy, it really aimed at discouraging the kind of use which stops other
customers using the network. If your 5000 minutes were spread accross
different locations and at different times of the day (which i would think
they would be) then you would be OK IMHO. If One2One could show that your
were abusing the service (possibly for example by making calls which last
hours) then they might invoke the fair use policy.

What it really comes down to is "what exaclty does the fair use policy
mean?" Has any reader of utm ever had the fair use policy used on them, and
if so can they elaborate on teh circumstances?

Stephen Plume

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Oct 30, 2001, 4:59:19 PM10/30/01
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>(possibly for example by making calls which last
> hours) then they might invoke the fair use policy.

But I am actually considering this O2O tariff (shoot me now maybe?) for
making very long calls which may last in excess of an hour or two? Surely
such use is not unreasonable.

Lets just hope there is an OVP!!!

Jules

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Oct 31, 2001, 4:28:15 AM10/31/01
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:29:15 -0000, "Simon Ough"
<si...@madhouse2000.greatxscape.net> wrote:

>One queston..... Why?
>
>One2One are starting a new promotional tariff on Thursday, where for £20 you
>get unlimited local, national and calls to one2one phones for £20/month.

This seems like an incredible deal. Please post a url to the full
details.

As it's "promotional", no OVP I guess.

Jules

Stephen Plume

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Oct 31, 2001, 4:29:32 AM10/31/01
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Jules <ster...@rmplcnospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> This seems like an incredible deal. Please post a url to the full
> details.
>
> As it's "promotional", no OVP I guess.

AFAIK there is no URL with the details on yet...

Chris Spyrou

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Oct 31, 2001, 5:05:54 AM10/31/01
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"Jon Parker" <jon.p...@vizzavi.net> wrote in message
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> I take your point Chris, but from what i have learned of the fair use
> policy, it really aimed at discouraging the kind of use which stops other
> customers using the network. If your 5000 minutes were spread accross
> different locations and at different times of the day (which i would think
> they would be) then you would be OK IMHO. If One2One could show that your
> were abusing the service (possibly for example by making calls which last
> hours) then they might invoke the fair use policy.
>
> What it really comes down to is "what exaclty does the fair use policy
> mean?" Has any reader of utm ever had the fair use policy used on them,
and
> if so can they elaborate on teh circumstances?

That's the point. The fair use policy is not clear enough,
as it's either 3000 minutes or not. From what you've
described above, 5000 *could* still be OK. That is why
an argument put forward previously on the OVP variations
still holds strong. Orange have got it right. The customer
knows what they are paying, with no hidden charges or
the possiblity of being thrown off the tariff at any time.

Unknown

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Oct 31, 2001, 9:39:41 PM10/31/01
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BT now have a MAX tariff as well which cost £79.99

mark
>

guv

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Nov 2, 2001, 8:01:38 PM11/2/01
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:29:15 -0000, "Simon Ough"
<si...@madhouse2000.greatxscape.net> said once upon a time:

>One2Weekend National was £20

I had this tarrif - albeit called bronze national - and it cost me
17.50 inc vat.

Cancelled it 6 weeks ago in protest to the 0800 increases.


guv

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Nov 2, 2001, 8:04:36 PM11/2/01
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On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 21:59:19 -0000, "Stephen Plume"
<itookthisaddressfrom...@hatebt.com> said once upon
a time:

>>(possibly for example by making calls which last


>> hours) then they might invoke the fair use policy.
>
>But I am actually considering this O2O tariff (shoot me now maybe?) for
>making very long calls which may last in excess of an hour or two? Surely
>such use is not unreasonable.

Dunno about unreasonable - but defiantely a good dose of radiation!

guv

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Nov 3, 2001, 5:45:32 PM11/3/01
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On Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:24:09 +0000, replace no-one with iain to reply
<no-...@hairydog.co.uk> said once upon a time:

>guv <g...@thepentagon.com> wrote:
>
>>Dunno about unreasonable - but defiantely a good dose of radiation!
>

>Where would you get this radiation from? Making the call in bright
>sunshine?

From the phone possibly? Or have you got a phone that doesnt produce
microwaves? Must be worth a fortune and worth patenting.


Andy Luckman

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Nov 5, 2001, 4:53:10 AM11/5/01
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In article <gns8ut40vlar0kkk4...@4ax.com>, guv
<URL:mailto:g...@thepentagon.com> wrote:

>
> From the phone possibly? Or have you got a phone that doesnt produce
> microwaves? Must be worth a fortune and worth patenting.

My Panasonic 600s don't produce any microwaves and they were patented years
ago.

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guv

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Nov 5, 2001, 12:45:18 PM11/5/01
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2001 14:14:21 +0000, replace no-one with iain to reply

<no-...@hairydog.co.uk> said once upon a time:

>>>Where would you get this radiation from? Making the call in bright


>>>sunshine?
>>
>>From the phone possibly? Or have you got a phone that doesnt produce
>>microwaves? Must be worth a fortune and worth patenting.
>

>Radio signals from mobile phones are only just within the microwave
>frequency range, and are most definitely not ionizing radiation. The
>amount of non-ionising radiation from a mobile phone is so small as to
>have no significant effect.
>
>If you are standing in sunshine, you are getting a significant dose of
>dangerous cancer-causing radiation. Making a mobile phone call at the
>same time makes sod-all difference, unless you use the mobile as a
>sunshade.

So all the concern that the use of mobiles cause cancer/tumers and
alike are without any foundation?

Andy Luckman

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Nov 5, 2001, 4:36:58 PM11/5/01
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In article <nvjdutsdodqi4hpn3...@4ax.com>, guv
<URL:mailto:g...@thepentagon.com> wrote:

> So all the concern that the use of mobiles cause cancer/tumers and
> alike are without any foundation?

Certainly. Nothing more than S(t)un type scaremongering. How many people
have allegedly developed cancer from living nearby a Megawatt UHF TV
transmitter? None? How then does a 25W base station or a .25W handheld
cause illness, except psychosematic?

RF at frequencies equal to and in excess of those currently used by
cellphones have been around a long long time. Apart from stupidity of
looking down waveguides, or copping hold of an HF whip running 1000W PEP, no
harm has ever resulted, or been alleged as far as I am aware.

Contrast this with smokers who die *as a direct consequence of this nasty
and antisocial activity* in the order of 11000 people PER YEAR. Methinks
some need to sort out their priorities.

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