On 08/08/2022 16:20, Woody wrote:
> This may sound a silly question, but has the OP tried rattling VM's cage
> to get a better deal out of them?
Hi Woody. ;-)
> Talking to Retentions can often get
> staggering discounts - been there, done that etc etc.
No, I haven't tried this time round but have in the past and generally
do with the likes of the AA etc. That was how I got it free for a year
because after fcuking up giving me 'the next couples of months free' for
3 months in a row (to retain my custom), they just credited my account
with a years work of payments. ;-)
What I am in the process of doing is migrating any emails still left on
NTL over to my own domain and then I was going to make the call (I know
I have 90 days but ...)
> I too have been on
> VM for a long time - heavens I was a beta tester on NtlWorld!
> direct line is 0800 952 2277 and it is often better to call them close
> to the end of the month or just into the new one.
> Do your homework, make
> sure you know what you options areand what you will accept, and what
> other ISPs in your area can offer as well. Also do you need high speed?
No, not really (as long as it's 'fast enough') and I have never actioned
a supposedly 'free upgrade to a faster speed' for that reason.
> I don't and just got $8/m discount for going down from 100Mb to 50Mb -
> in the safe and certain knowledge that they will upgrade me f.o.c to
> 100Mb in a few months time - they've done it at least twice before!
See above ... but if formally requesting a slower speed for less money
works I'll give it a go.
> is also a good idea to back out of anything they offer, say no, and tell
> them you are giving the statutory 30 days notice. They will call you a
> week later with an offer you can't refuse.
Nice one. Like the old 'leave it in your shopping basket' trick.
> Also have a look to see if Cityfibre have anything in your area. They
> are outside my house so available and carry TalkTalk, Sky, VF and Zen. I
> am at the moment paying £36/m for 50Mb BB and phone (which we never use
> as we have a BT line.) I can have FTTP from Zen over Cityfibre running
> 145Mb for £29.95/m or 300Mb for £32.99/m. Phone costs an additional £7/m.
> The one thing that many people overlook when thinking of leaving VM is
> the reliability of their service. In 22 years we have had four outages,
> the longest of three days when a drunk piled his car into the streetcab
> at the top of our road!
Oooerr (I am often putting the lids back on and closing the doors on
them when out dog walking).
> Can mi-fi beat that?
Maybe a small 'MiFi' unit might not but hopefully £200+'s worth of ZTE /
Netgear / TP_Link / Huawei 4/5G Cat6+ router with external aerial
options and Gb switch / LAN / Ethernet Wan / fallback might (subject to
the 4/5G side etc). On that I'm within 500m ATCF and pretty well
lign-of-sight from the local mast.
But yes, I have 'enjoyed' similar levels of reliability (and certainly
compared with many ADSL lines where restarting the router every so often
seems par for the course) and that was why I was asking here about the
'real world' performance of Mobile BB 'today'. Several people on Youtube
bought mobile solutions to provide temporary access but ended up
sticking with them because they got better performance (or service) than
the ADSL / Cable service they just left.
VM are currently charging me ~£45 for just BB at probably 100Mb/s and
according to my FritzBox router I downloaded 223,991MB last month
And I could afford to pay for a 'better' mobile BB service if I wasn't
paying the £44/m to VM and whatever BT currently charge for a telephone
line (that I rarely use and I doubt would sustain a decent ADSL service
judging by the line noise that it often present (that has been reported
and supposedly fixed several times over the years, seems fixed but then
Keen to try stuff I've put another Smarty Data SIM online (£4.50/2G/m)
and it's currently in an old SGS4 running a wireless hotspot and have a
laptop connect though it to test for connectivity and check speeds etc.
I do have an old Zoom mobile BB router and a TP-Link one somewhere that
*might* take the ZTE 4G USB modem (MF833U1) but the Zoom doesn't seem
compatible. Then I was going to see if I could DIY a router using a RPI4
but that seems to involve loads of Linux CLI incantations that I know
will end in tears. ;-(
What I was hoping to do is put <whatever mobile service router> on my
LAN in parallel with VM but then I could set the default gateway on
selected devices to use that to give me the feel of how good / reliable
it was but could manually fall-back to VM if needed.
Cheers, T i m