giffgaff (O2 virtual operator) launches today
OJ
today. For full details go to giffgaff.com but briefly, calls are 8p/min,
texts 4p and 'phone data' is free for the first few months (no tethering
allowed, as I understand it). Possibly uniquely 0800 calls are also free, as
are calls to other mobiles on the giffgaff network (�10 topup required every
3 months which expires after ???).
JohnF (namedropping, if you should signup, would naturally be appreciated
;-)
Steve Terry
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on
Orange free 0800, to use up.
What's their website?
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You get credit for signing up people :)
Steve Terry
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> www.giffgaff.com
>
>
Ironic that the network that always held out against free
0800 (o2), reintroduces it!
Free data too for 6 months
Looks like ASDAmobile has a real competitor
Jimbo ...
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>> www.giffgaff.com
>>
>>
> Ironic that the network that always held out against free
> 0800 (o2), reintroduces it!
>
> Free data too for 6 months
>
> Looks like ASDAmobile has a real competitor
>
> Steve Terry
giffgaff for riffraff .......
Theo Markettos
> giffgaff, the new virtual mobile operator on O2, launches its PAYG service
> today. For full details go to giffgaff.com but briefly, calls are 8p/min,
> texts 4p and 'phone data' is free for the first few months (no tethering
> allowed, as I understand it). Possibly uniquely 0800 calls are also free,
> every 3 months which expires after ???).
Ofcom alert:
Other landlines and mobiles: 8p/min
033, 034, 037: 80p/min
What were we saying in the other thread?
Theo
(just emailed them in case this is a typo)
Lars Homestead
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> giffgaff for riffraff .......
A bit uncalled for I think...
Steve Terry
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like
www.call18866.co.uk/ to call 03 numbers
Theo Markettos
> Ironic that the network that always held out against free
> 0800 (o2), reintroduces it!
>
> Free data too for 6 months
Seems to be 100MB/day. But according to this post that's because they haven't
finished building the billing system for it yet, so launched anyway:
http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Blog/A-bit-of-news-about-our-pricing/ba-p/29
Interesting blog post on 'unlimited' tariffs:
http://community.giffgaff.com/t5/Blog/Free-Unlimited-Everything-For-Life/ba-p/522
(posted by their 'Proposition and Product Theorist'... sounds like a pure
mathematician to me)
> Looks like ASDAmobile has a real competitor
Calling international ain't cheap though (outside EU, Aus, NZ, Pakistan,
India, US and Canada it's 1 pound/min).
Some of the 'community' stuff is interesting though... various discussions
on how they might set their tariffs etc.
Theo
Theo Markettos
> Ofcom alert:
>
> Other landlines and mobiles: 8p/min
> 033, 034, 037: 80p/min
>
> What were we saying in the other thread?
Someone official posted on their forum saying this was a mistake and should
be 8p.
Theo
Steve Terry
> Steve Terry <gfou...@tesco.net> wrote:
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>> Looks like ASDAmobile has a real competitor
>
> Calling international ain't cheap though (outside EU, Aus, NZ, Pakistan,
> India, US and Canada it's 1 pound/min).
>
>
to call through indirect providers
http://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/residx.htm
Lists possible indirect providers, some of which have 0800 access
like:
1899.com for non-BT lines
SimonC
Looks very interesting indeed! Think I'll be giving this a go once my iPhone
contract ends in a month's time - SIM ordered and put you in as the
recommendation. Even if the free data is only for 6 months that should easily
tide me over till the next iPhone comes out and then I can decide what makes
more sense at the time.
R. Mark Clayton
diabolic customer service) they changed the name to O2.
Why are they changing the name to giff gaff then?
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Theo Markettos
> When BT Cellnet's brand name acquired negative value (as a result of
> diabolic customer service) they changed the name to O2.
>
> Why are they changing the name to giff gaff then?
They aren't. O2 will stay just where it is. giffgaff is an 'arm's-length'
MVNO - effectively a startup seeded with some O2 people. It's a bit of an
experiment in 'social media' - being arm's length O2 can shut it down, steal
their good ideas, or use them to hoover up revenue that wouldn't be
attracted to the main network.
It's a little bit like the R&D department has been given its own network to
play with and test out things (tariffs, features) that might get
incorporated into the main network one day. And to try out things that
wouldn't work with the 'big' business model.
Theo
Jimbo ...
>
> It's a little bit like the R&D department has been given its own network
> to
> play with and test out things (tariffs, features) that might get
> incorporated into the main network one day. And to try out things that
> wouldn't work with the 'big' business model.
>
> Theo
it's for chavs and chavettes then? ....
Theo Markettos
> it's for chavs and chavettes then? ....
If you like. It's a telephone network. It isn't compulsory to ring anyone
in particular :)
Theo
Steve
How did you come to that conclusion?
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> jim.g...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > It's a little bit like the R&D department has been given its own
>> > network
>> > to
>> > play with and test out things (tariffs, features) that might get
>> > incorporated into the main network one day. And to try out things that
>> > wouldn't work with the 'big' business model.
>> >
>> > Theo
>>
>> it's for chavs and chavettes then? ....
>
> How did you come to that conclusion?
>
by thinking about it for 10 seconds.........
Steve Terry
and mobiles at weekends for 4p per min (plus connection charge)
through a 0800 indirect provider like 1899.com for non-BT lines
http://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/residx.htm
Steve
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> > "Steve" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> >> jim.g...@googlemail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > It's a little bit like the R&D department has been given its own
> >>> > network to play with and test out things (tariffs, features) that
> >>> > might get
> >>> > incorporated into the main network one day. And to try out things
> >>> > that wouldn't work with the 'big' business model.
> >>> >
> >>> > Theo
> >>>
> >>> it's for chavs and chavettes then? ....
> >>
> >> How did you come to that conclusion?
> >
> > by thinking about it for 10 seconds.........
> >
> >
> I don't care if it is for chavs,
Dimbo thinking about it for 10 seconds is hardly proof that it is
for chavs.
if i can make landline calls for 1p per min
> and mobiles at weekends for 4p per min (plus connection charge)
> through a 0800 indirect provider like 1899.com for non-BT lines
> http://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/residx.htm
>
> Steve Terry
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> > "Steve" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> >>> > It's a little bit like the R&D department has been given its own
> >>> > network to play with and test out things (tariffs, features) that
> >>> > might get
> >>> > incorporated into the main network one day. And to try out things
> >>> > that wouldn't work with the 'big' business model.
>
> >>> > Theo
>
> >>> it's for chavs and chavettes then? ....
>
> >> How did you come to that conclusion?
>
> > by thinking about it for 10 seconds.........
>
> I don't care if it is for chavs, if i can make landline calls for 1p per min
> and mobiles at weekends for 4p per min (plus connection charge)
>
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Problem is you can't seem to dial any 0808 number on giffgaff, doesn't
matter what format you try, even without first zero, you get network
message saying number not recognised.
0800 is ok.
Dan
Steve Terry
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try some 0808 and 0500 numbers
(without first zero)
Dan
Yep it's now working Steve!
Even 1899/18866 etc
Dan
Steve Terry
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>> "Dan" <d...@u.genie.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On 1 Dec, 01:44, "Steve Terry" <gfour...@tesco.net> wrote:> "Jimbo ..."
>> <jim.gm4...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>> > > "Steve" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>> > >> jim.gm4...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>> >Problem is you can't seem to dial any 0808 number on giffgaff, doesn't
>> >matter what format you try, even without first zero, you get network
>> >message saying number not recognised.
>>
>> >0800 is ok.
>> >Dan
>>
>> I've emailed giffgaff CS and they say that's now been fixed,
>> try some 0808 and 0500 numbers
>> (without first zero)
>> Steve Terry
>
>
> Even 1899/18866 etc
> Dan
>
>
in those days calls to landlines were 15p per min and 0800 indirect provider
AXS were offering calls to landlines at 2p per min at all times.
I wonder if giff gaff have made the other mistake Virgin made when they
started,
have they left their SMSC open??
Try changing their SMS message centre number to ones belonging to other
networks
Virgin left there's open and using some other networks SMSC meant free SMS,
until Virgins SMS server was swamped with foreign SMS's
It was a common mistake made by new networks
Dan
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Tried.. o2 direct, Virgin, Three, Orange, Tesco, T-Mobile, Vodafone.
Can't send SMS at all.
Dan
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> Tried.. o2 direct, Virgin, Three, Orange, Tesco, T-Mobile, Vodafone.
>
> Can't send SMS at all.
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Oh I have since found a problem.
You can't seem to send text to landlines, using the correct
settings.
Dan
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Dan
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> On 4 Dec, 15:43, Dan <d...@u.genie.co.uk> wrote:
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> > On 4 Dec, 02:35, "Steve Terry" <gfour...@tesco.net> wrote:
> > > "Dan" <d...@u.genie.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > > > On 3 Dec, 19:02, "Steve Terry" <gfour...@tesco.net> wrote:
> > > >> "Dan" <d...@u.genie.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > > >>news:17fedc45-a57d-404c...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> On 1 Dec, 01:44, "Steve Terry" <gfour...@tesco.net> wrote:> "Jimbo
> > > >> ..."
> > > >> <jim.gm4...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> > > >> > >> jim.gm4...@googlemail.com wrote:
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> >Oh I have since found a problem.
> >You can't seem to send text to landlines, using the correct
> >settings.
> >Dan
>
> email them at:
>
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Thanks.. Done.
Dan