Vodaphone say new area codes aren't local
Mr D.
run in parallel and switched at no additional charge.
Vodaphone customer care tell me that if the phone displays 0208, then
dialling 0181 will be at the national rate (and vice versa). I have
checked this with them repeatedly (6 times!) as it seems totally
unfair. Surely they can detect that 0181=0208 and 0171=0207 etc.
From my office my display shows either 0181 or 0208 depending on
which way I face. I can't even set up my address book for local
calls ie 0181 (or now 0208) when Vodaphone change their calling cost
in this way?
Withheld Adrian
wrote:
>BT claim that 0181 and the new code number 0208 (outer London) will
>run in parallel and switched at no additional charge.
>
>Vodaphone customer care tell me that if the phone displays 0208, then
>dialling 0181 will be at the national rate (and vice versa). I have
>checked this with them repeatedly (6 times!) as it seems totally
>unfair. Surely they can detect that 0181=0208 and 0171=0207 etc.
>
>From my office my display shows either 0181 or 0208 depending on
>which way I face.
you are getting cell info that displays 0208?
phil henry
wrote:
>BT claim that 0181 and the new code number 0208 (outer London) will
>run in parallel and switched at no additional charge.
The new code is 020.
As in 020 7xxx xxxx and 020 8xxx xxxx
-bat.
> The new code is 020.
>
> As in 020 7xxx xxxx and 020 8xxx xxxx
Hmmm, but the Voida cells display stuff like 0208 and 0207 don't they ?
I got must ouzzled when tavelling through London a week or so ago by this.
What does Caller ID produce for numbers dialled from within the new code
areas ?
-bat.
Stephen
local. By splitting it into 0207 and 0208 they can continue this even though
they know it's 020 really. Yet another reason to leave Vodafone.
Ian Mansfield
Either 0208 and 0181 are treated as identical codes from a pricing point of
view, along with all the new UK codes. The difference is in Ireland, where
dialling the new local codes are charged at a different rate than the old
codes.
Ian
Mr D. <alan@thedavenports*.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3779ae09...@news.ukf.net...
| BT claim that 0181 and the new code number 0208 (outer London) will
| run in parallel and switched at no additional charge.
|
| Vodaphone customer care tell me that if the phone displays 0208, then
| dialling 0181 will be at the national rate (and vice versa). I have
| checked this with them repeatedly (6 times!) as it seems totally
| unfair. Surely they can detect that 0181=0208 and 0171=0207 etc.
|
| From my office my display shows either 0181 or 0208 depending on
Sophie Tat-Wink
'8' will just be hang-overs from the existing split numbering system, so it
seems that Vodaphone are trying to rip people off. On the subject of CLI,
London numbers still transmit as 01x1, as we in London will not be able to
use the new codes until the 01x1 system is phased out next year...
BTW, if Voda count 0171 to 0181 calls as non-local, what will they do when
BT start offering other numbers to London customers, eg 020 6, 020 3 etc?
We'll have 9 different area codes for one city!
Stephen <ste...@fujitsu.cock> wrote in message
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Mr D.
I don't doubt your statement, but you don't say who told you (now, it
doesn't matter). I can assure you it was Vodaphone customer care who
stated that the area code had to match exactly, and 0181 was not
considered the same as 0208 wrt local calls. I asked several on
separate occassions and each time asked the operator to check with her
supervisor.
As Vodaphone presumably monitor this Newsgroup, perhaps someone would
like to make a clear definitive statement on their policy.
AD
replace no-one with iain to reply
>Either 0208 and 0181 are treated as identical codes from a pricing point of
>view, along with all the new UK codes.
0181 is a dialling code. 020 is a dialling code. 0208 is NOT a
dialling code. All of London will have one dialling code, as will all
of NI.
Vodafone are trying to pull a fast one.
Iain
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Jason O'Brian
<redho...@cwcom.dontspam.net> wrote:
>BTW, if Voda count 0171 to 0181 calls as non-local, what will they do when
>BT start offering other numbers to London customers, eg 020 6, 020 3 etc?
Presumably, given Vodafone's present position, they will continue to
charge each "area" as a separate STD, i.e. 0206, 0203, etc.
That way they can continue to maximise their profits.
jas
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Jason O'Brian
>Hmmm, but the Voida cells display stuff like 0208 and 0207 don't they ?
Yes - in fact depending where I am in my office I get either 0207,
0208, 0171, or 0181.
jas
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Jason
Dave Mayall
> Hmmm, but the Voida cells display stuff like 0208 and 0207 don't they ?
> I got must ouzzled when tavelling through London a week or so ago by this.
> What does Caller ID produce for numbers dialled from within the new code
> areas ?
0171 & 0181.
CLI will be changed on a phased basis from Easter 2000.
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Dave Mayall
>
> I have been told the opposite, several times !!
>
> dialling the new local codes are charged at a different rate than the old
> codes.
There is still no such code as 0208.
Peter Gaunt
> 0181 is a dialling code. 020 is a dialling code. 0208 is NOT a
> dialling code.
It is, sort of, at the moment. If you're using the new codes from within
London at the moment you have to use the 020 as well as the 7 or 8. If you
don't then the thing doesn't work. For example, I'm on an 0181 341 number
which will eventually become 020 8341. The new number works provided the 020
is dialled. If 020 is ommitted then I'll get a number on the 0181 834
exchange. This could be Vodafone's, rather dubious, rationale. Won't wash
after the real changeover date next year of course.
> Vodafone are trying to pull a fast one.
I don't doubt it for a moment.
Does anyone know what the situation with Cellnet is with regard to dialling
020 numbers at the moment. Do they treat them as local (assuming I'm in
London of course) or not? The cell broadcast is still saying 0181 0171.
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Sophie Tat-Wink
geographical basis, as it is most likely that they will be allocated
randomly or to customers who request them. In any case this leads to the
possibility that my neighbour could be allocated an 020 4 number (I'm 020 7)
and I will be charged higher than local rate to call them (assuming I was
too lazy to knock on her door)!
Let's hope that one2one don't decide to try the Vodaphone scam for
PersonalCall customers, or Londoners will be screwed all over!
David Richards <dv...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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< snip >
> You are assuming that in the future the first digit of the local number
will
> be allocated on a geographical basis - there is nothing to suggest that
this
> will be the case [1].
>
> [1] Or indeed anything to suggest that it will not be the case
>
> --
> David Richards
>