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Ian Cornish

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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Does anyone know when Orange are going to do anything about the mobile phone
renumbering thingy that's going to hit us soon. I've had no communication
about it and OCS are (as usual) ignorant/downright arrogant when I ask them.
I need to know now, so I can tell all my colleagues around this wonderfully
shrinking world what they need to call. To change it soon is to cause chaos.

Ic

phil henry

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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David Gillham

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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Ian Cornish wrote in message <730ucg$n7a$1...@cronkite.d48.lilly.com>...

>Does anyone know when Orange are going to do anything about the mobile
phone
>renumbering thingy that's going to hit us soon. I've had no

Phil's posted the URLs but let me add my 2p worth

As far as I can see in general old prefixes will just have a 7 inserted
after the first 0 (e.g. 0410 - 07410, 0963 = 07963)

Dual numbering is scheduled to start mid 1999 and should continue for around
18 months

Hints are that SOME networks will start the dual numbering this coming
January

CS reps of most networks still say 'what renumbering' if questioned about it
all and generally can't be relied on to give sensible answers

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Tony Brett

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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In article <7319qa$hui$1...@newsreader4.core.theplanet.net>,

David Gillham <da...@desoft.nospam.co.uk> wrote:
>
>As far as I can see in general old prefixes will just have a 7 inserted
>after the first 0 (e.g. 0410 - 07410, 0963 = 07963)

Wrong! All mobiles will start 077, 078 or 079, to correct your example,
0410 will become 07710.


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Peter G. Strangman

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:18:36 -0000, "David Gillham"
<da...@desoft.nospam.co.uk> wrote:

> As far as I can see in general old prefixes will just have a 7 inserted
> after the first 0 (e.g. 0410 - 07410, 0963 = 07963)

Some do, many don't.

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li...@wcml.demon.co.uk

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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In article <731ajd$94u$1...@news.ox.ac.uk>,
Tony Brett <tony.brett@remove_to_email.corpus-christi.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
> In article <7319qa$hui$1...@newsreader4.core.theplanet.net>,

> David Gillham <da...@desoft.nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >As far as I can see in general old prefixes will just have a 7 inserted
> >after the first 0 (e.g. 0410 - 07410, 0963 = 07963)
>
> Wrong! All mobiles will start 077, 078 or 079, to correct your example,
> 0410 will become 07710.

have a look at :

http://www.cwcom.co.uk/codechange/newnumber.html

That'll give you the new code.

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Simon Ho

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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Check this list to see how your number will be affected:

Old Prefix New Prefix Old Prefix New Prefix

0370 077 70 0585 078 85

0374 077 74 0589 078 89

0378 077 78 0802 078 02

0385 077 85 0831 078 31

0401 077 01 0836 078 36

0402 077 02 0850 078 50

0403 077 03 0860 078 60

0410 077 10 0930 7 07930 7

0411 077 11 0956 079 56

0421 077 21 0958 079 58

0441 077 41 0961 079 61

0467 077 67 0966 079 66

0468 077 68 0973 079 73

0498 077 98 0976 079 76

(From http://www.numberchange.org/html-docs/family/07family2.html)

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David Gillham

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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li...@wcml.demon.co.uk wrote in message <731hjf$i7b$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>have a look at :
>
>http://www.cwcom.co.uk/codechange/newnumber.html
>
>That'll give you the new code.
>

Fat lot of use that URL was. Cable & Wireless (whose page it is) report for
EVERY one of my mobile numbers "Current OFTEL plans for the UK national code
change do not include this number"

There are distinct groups of numbers merely taking a single digit (0860 =
07860, 0973 = 07973) so as well as being wrong I was also right, in part.
Peter put it better "some do, some don't"

Tony is, of course, absolutely right if you remember that many numbers will
ony need a single digit addition of 7 after the 0 whilst others will require
the 7 plus another, higher, digit to replace their original second digit

And I'm sure the original poster is now suitably confused <g>

There's a far better web page detailing the code changes out there but for
the meantime I've misplaced the URL

li...@wcml.demon.co.uk

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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In article <731q1p$q9t$1...@newsreader4.core.theplanet.net>,

"David Gillham" <da...@desoft.nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> li...@wcml.demon.co.uk wrote in message <731hjf$i7b$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>
> >have a look at :
> >
> >http://www.cwcom.co.uk/codechange/newnumber.html
> >
> >That'll give you the new code.
> >
>
> Fat lot of use that URL was. Cable & Wireless (whose page it is) report for
> EVERY one of my mobile numbers "Current OFTEL plans for the UK national code
> change do not include this number"

It would be interesting to know which ones you tried as common ones like 0831,
0836, 0410, etc etc give back the correct new numbers.

LBunder

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Nov 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/19/98
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But my One 2 One 0956 xxxxxx also works with 07956 xxxxxx

Is anyone actually igving out their 07956 numbers now?

LB

David Gillham

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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li...@wcml.demon.co.uk wrote in message <7327qd$7o7$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...

>It would be interesting to know which ones you tried as common ones like
0831,
>0836, 0410, etc etc give back the correct new numbers.
>

I didn't try 0831 or 0836

I tried 0410, 0411, 0973, 0860 and got no joy so I then gave up

Interesting you got 0410 to work though and I didn't. Maybe a server glitch

li...@wcml.demon.co.uk

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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In article <19981119172455...@ng40.aol.com>,

lbu...@aol.com (LBunder) wrote:
> But my One 2 One 0956 xxxxxx also works with 07956 xxxxxx
>
> Is anyone actually igving out their 07956 numbers now?

Not a good idea yet, as some business pabx's will not have been programmed to
allow certain numbers and some networks *might* not be billing correctly.
Both One2One and Orange numbers can now be dialled with either old or new
code but other codes don't work yet as the migration isn't due for parallel
running until late next year [around Sept time I think]. I know a lot of
newer mobiles are being given the new ranges like 07775, 07899, etc but you
can't change things like 0370 to 07770 yet !

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Nov 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/20/98
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li...@wcml.demon.co.uk wrote:

>Both One2One and Orange numbers can now be dialled with either old or new
>code

Not yet for 0973 on Orange, that's for certain!

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li...@wcml.demon.co.uk

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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In article <36587ba3...@news.clara.net>,

no-...@hairydog.clara.net (replace no-one with iain to reply) wrote:
> li...@wcml.demon.co.uk wrote:
>
> >Both One2One and Orange numbers can now be dialled with either old or new
> >code
>
> Not yet for 0973 on Orange, that's for certain!

Have you tried it as I'm sure it works. 07973 instead of 0973, but like I said
in an earlier post some 'phone systems aren't allowing these new codes yet.

Dave Gill

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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On Sat, 21 Nov 1998, li...@wcml.demon.co.uk wrote:
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>Have you tried it as I'm sure it works. 07973 instead of 0973, but like I said
>in an earlier post some 'phone systems aren't allowing these new codes yet.

07973 isn't even recognised by the _Orange_ network yet,
let alone any others!

You get the "number not in use" message FWIW.

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Ian Jelf

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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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In article <73537f$lin$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, li...@wcml.demon.co.uk
writes

>In article <36587ba3...@news.clara.net>,
> no-...@hairydog.clara.net (replace no-one with iain to reply) wrote:
>> li...@wcml.demon.co.uk wrote:
>>
>> >Both One2One and Orange numbers can now be dialled with either old or new
>> >code
>>
>> Not yet for 0973 on Orange, that's for certain!
>
>Have you tried it as I'm sure it works. 07973 instead of 0973, but like I said
>in an earlier post some 'phone systems aren't allowing these new codes yet.

Wel 07976 doesn't work yet. I've just tried!
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Nov 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/21/98
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li...@wcml.demon.co.uk wrote:

>> Not yet for 0973 on Orange, that's for certain!
>
>Have you tried it as I'm sure it works. 07973 instead of 0973,

Yes, I have tried it, and no it doesn't work. Orange don't even "own"
that dialling code yet: it is just "reserved".

Omaid Hiwaizi

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Nov 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM11/30/98
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One 2 One already have theirs switched on... 0956 --> 07956, etc

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In article <365bb95c...@news.clara.net>, no-...@hairydog.clara.net


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Dec 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/1/98
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"Omaid Hiwaizi" <o.hi...@hhm.co.uk> wrote:

>One 2 One already have theirs switched on... 0956 --> 07956, etc

... and have had for months.

That doesn't mean that Orange have, does it?

BTW, your quoting is upside down

Mike Lane

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Dec 1, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/1/98
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In article <3664131b...@news.clara.net>,
replace no-one with iain to reply <no-...@hairydog.clara.net> wrote:
> "Omaid Hiwaizi" <o.hi...@hhm.co.uk> wrote:
[upside down quoting snipped]

> BTW, your quoting is upside down

Like 20% of this n.g. (from a quick sample) :-|

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