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Clive Page
Feb 17, 2012, 5:39:11 AM2/17/12
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The adoption of the "everything everywhere" brand is more than a bit
ironic. I've just returned from a trip to Costa Rica. I thought that
my orange sim in a 4-band phone would work there, as Costa Rica is was
on a list of countries with charge rates that I found on the Orange
site. But it turns out that Orange has no roaming partner there, and
my phone did not work.
After an exchange of emails with Orange "customer service" it seems that
there is another list on the Orange website of countries where you can
roam, this one supposedly more definitive, and this one doesn't list
Costa Rica. This is very misleading, so I thought I'd better warn
others who might to there.
The other curiosity is *why* they don't cover Costa Rica: I know quite a
number of people who have been there at some time or other, and it's the
major holiday destination in Central America, so I'm sure there is some
demand. Movistar is one of the big mobile operators in Costa Rica, and
Orange have roaming agreements with them in other countries, but not there.
What is even more bizarre is that T-mobile, with which they are
supposedly merged, does have roaming in Costa Rica. My phone works fine
on a T-mobile mast in the UK, but presumably not abroad. Definitely NOT
everything everywhere.
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Clive Page
ironic. I've just returned from a trip to Costa Rica. I thought that
my orange sim in a 4-band phone would work there, as Costa Rica is was
on a list of countries with charge rates that I found on the Orange
site. But it turns out that Orange has no roaming partner there, and
my phone did not work.
After an exchange of emails with Orange "customer service" it seems that
there is another list on the Orange website of countries where you can
roam, this one supposedly more definitive, and this one doesn't list
Costa Rica. This is very misleading, so I thought I'd better warn
others who might to there.
The other curiosity is *why* they don't cover Costa Rica: I know quite a
number of people who have been there at some time or other, and it's the
major holiday destination in Central America, so I'm sure there is some
demand. Movistar is one of the big mobile operators in Costa Rica, and
Orange have roaming agreements with them in other countries, but not there.
What is even more bizarre is that T-mobile, with which they are
supposedly merged, does have roaming in Costa Rica. My phone works fine
on a T-mobile mast in the UK, but presumably not abroad. Definitely NOT
everything everywhere.
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Clive Page
Steve Terry
Feb 17, 2012, 7:46:55 AM2/17/12
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Clive Page wrote:
> The adoption of the "everything everywhere" brand is more than a bit
> ironic. I've just returned from a trip to Costa Rica. I thought that
> my orange sim in a 4-band phone would work there, as Costa Rica is was
> on a list of countries with charge rates that I found on the Orange
> site. But it turns out that Orange has no roaming partner there, and
> my phone did not work.
<snip>
> The adoption of the "everything everywhere" brand is more than a bit
> ironic. I've just returned from a trip to Costa Rica. I thought that
> my orange sim in a 4-band phone would work there, as Costa Rica is was
> on a list of countries with charge rates that I found on the Orange
> site. But it turns out that Orange has no roaming partner there, and
> my phone did not work.
>
Orange PAYG or contract?
Steve Terry
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Get a free GiffGaff PAYG Sim and £5 bonus after activation at:
http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/gfourwwk
Roland Perry
Feb 17, 2012, 8:52:21 AM2/17/12
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In message <9q6p2j...@mid.individual.net>, at 10:39:11 on Fri, 17 Feb
2012, Clive Page <use...@page2.eu> remarked:
and disallow what they consider to be ones with too high a risk of
anonymity.
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Roland Perry
2012, Clive Page <use...@page2.eu> remarked:
>The other curiosity is *why* they don't cover Costa Rica
If it's PAYG then some countries worry about the traceability of phones,
and disallow what they consider to be ones with too high a risk of
anonymity.
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Roland Perry
Someone Somewhere
Feb 17, 2012, 10:41:07 AM2/17/12
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I'd ahve presumed it was more likely that none of the networks, for
whatever reason, had got around to implementing CAMEL.
Clive Page
Feb 17, 2012, 11:08:53 AM2/17/12
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On 17/02/2012 12:46, Steve Terry wrote:
> Orange PAYG or contract?
Orange PAYG (OVP actually). But that doesn't make any difference.
Customer services confirm that they don't do roaming there, and have no
plans. Maybe T-mobile customers should start to worry that their own
roaming ability may be about to be degraded...
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Clive Page
> Orange PAYG or contract?
Orange PAYG (OVP actually). But that doesn't make any difference.
Customer services confirm that they don't do roaming there, and have no
plans. Maybe T-mobile customers should start to worry that their own
roaming ability may be about to be degraded...
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Clive Page
Clive Page
Feb 17, 2012, 11:09:59 AM2/17/12
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On 17/02/2012 12:46, Steve Terry wrote:
> Orange PAYG or contract?
Sorry, mental aberration (maybe I'm still jet-lagged). I mean contract
> Orange PAYG or contract?
of course.
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Clive Page
Roland Perry
Feb 17, 2012, 12:07:44 PM2/17/12
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In message <jhlsed$jah$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, at 15:41:07 on Fri, 17 Feb
2012, Someone Somewhere <nnt...@gmail.com> remarked:
PAYG customers, and whether they'll respond to requests for information.
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Roland Perry
2012, Someone Somewhere <nnt...@gmail.com> remarked:
>> If it's PAYG then some countries worry about the traceability of phones,
>> and disallow what they consider to be ones with too high a risk of
>> anonymity.
>
>Surely then they'd just have to bar all incoming roamers?
Depends what they think the network has typically done to "register"
>> and disallow what they consider to be ones with too high a risk of
>> anonymity.
>
>Surely then they'd just have to bar all incoming roamers?
PAYG customers, and whether they'll respond to requests for information.
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Roland Perry
Someone Somewhere
Feb 17, 2012, 12:30:36 PM2/17/12
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really think that a network in Costa Rica would have time to keep track
of all that.
Roland Perry
Feb 17, 2012, 1:00:35 PM2/17/12
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In message <jhm2rn$56u$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, at 17:30:36 on Fri, 17 Feb
people trying to persuade the countries that it's "OK, really". Remember
that any roaming like this has many-to-many roaming agreements, and
adding the PAYG traceability is almost a second order effect.
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Roland Perry
2012, Someone Somewhere <nnt...@gmail.com> remarked:
>>>> If it's PAYG then some countries worry about the traceability of phones,
>>>> and disallow what they consider to be ones with too high a risk of
>>>> anonymity.
>>>
>>> Surely then they'd just have to bar all incoming roamers?
>>
>> Depends what they think the network has typically done to "register"
>> PAYG customers, and whether they'll respond to requests for information.
>
>Given the number of networks worldwide, and how policies change, I
>can't really think that a network in Costa Rica would have time to keep
>track of all that.
The default will be not to trust them, against which the networks have
>>>> If it's PAYG then some countries worry about the traceability of phones,
>>>> and disallow what they consider to be ones with too high a risk of
>>>> anonymity.
>>>
>>> Surely then they'd just have to bar all incoming roamers?
>>
>> Depends what they think the network has typically done to "register"
>> PAYG customers, and whether they'll respond to requests for information.
>
>Given the number of networks worldwide, and how policies change, I
>can't really think that a network in Costa Rica would have time to keep
>track of all that.
people trying to persuade the countries that it's "OK, really". Remember
that any roaming like this has many-to-many roaming agreements, and
adding the PAYG traceability is almost a second order effect.
--
Roland Perry
Steve Terry
Feb 17, 2012, 3:17:44 PM2/17/12
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don't have contract roaming there.
j42n
Feb 18, 2012, 3:50:45 AM2/18/12
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:39:11 +0000, Clive Page <use...@page2.eu>
wrote:
>After an exchange of emails with Orange "customer service" it seems that
>there is another list on the Orange website of countries where you can
>roam, this one supposedly more definitive, and this one doesn't list
>Costa Rica.
Are you able to post a URL for this list? I would find it most useful.
wrote:
>After an exchange of emails with Orange "customer service" it seems that
>there is another list on the Orange website of countries where you can
>roam, this one supposedly more definitive, and this one doesn't list
>Costa Rica.
Woody
Feb 18, 2012, 5:09:14 AM2/18/12
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No roaming in Costa Rica?
Good heavens, there's plenty of Orange-free zones in the UK, you
don't need to go to Costa Rica to be unable to make calls!
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Woody
harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
Good heavens, there's plenty of Orange-free zones in the UK, you
don't need to go to Costa Rica to be unable to make calls!
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Woody
harrogate three at ntlworld dot com
Clive Page
Feb 18, 2012, 7:39:16 AM2/18/12
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> Are you able to post a URL for this list? I would find it most useful.
Well it isn't a list, just a stupid Javascript pull-down alphabetical
list. But it's for what it is worth it can be found here:
http://studio.orange.co.uk/roaming/
I can't find the page I found initially listing Costa Rica and giving
its charge zone - maybe removed after I complained.
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Clive Page
Roland Perry
Feb 18, 2012, 10:37:09 AM2/18/12
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In message <9q9kfp...@mid.individual.net>, at 12:39:16 on Sat, 18 Feb
2", but that's the cost of calling from the UK, not roaming.
Some of their overseas subsidiaries list it as a roaming destination in
"Zone 5" (the most expensive).
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Roland Perry
2012, Clive Page <use...@page2.eu> remarked:
>I can't find the page I found initially listing Costa Rica and giving
>its charge zone - maybe removed after I complained.
http:/www1.orange.co.uk/overseas lists Costa Rica in "Rest of the World
>its charge zone - maybe removed after I complained.
2", but that's the cost of calling from the UK, not roaming.
Some of their overseas subsidiaries list it as a roaming destination in
"Zone 5" (the most expensive).
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Roland Perry
Jim gm4dhj ...
Feb 18, 2012, 11:06:54 AM2/18/12
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"Woody" <harro...@ntlworld.spam.com> wrote in message
news:eNK%q.34877$6J5....@newsfe17.ams2...
> No roaming in Costa Rica?
>
> Good heavens, there's plenty of Orange-free zones in the UK, you don't
> need to go to Costa Rica to be unable to make calls!
>
>
> Woody
>
> Good heavens, there's plenty of Orange-free zones in the UK, you don't
> need to go to Costa Rica to be unable to make calls!
>
>
bloody 1800 Mc/s only systems .........
DrTeeth
Feb 18, 2012, 3:47:59 PM2/18/12
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:06:54 -0000, just as I was about to take a
herb, "Jim gm4dhj ..." <james.st...@ntlworld.com> disturbed my
73s de G4DWV, 4X1LT
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Cheers
DrT
______________________________
We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
our lives; but we can always choose to dance
in the puddles (Jewish proverb).
herb, "Jim gm4dhj ..." <james.st...@ntlworld.com> disturbed my
reverie and wrote:
>bloody 1800 Mc/s only systems
You've got a three-letter call m8, what's this Mc/s stuff?
>bloody 1800 Mc/s only systems
73s de G4DWV, 4X1LT
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Cheers
DrT
______________________________
We may not be able to prevent the stormy times in
our lives; but we can always choose to dance
in the puddles (Jewish proverb).
GM4DHJ in the shack ..
Feb 19, 2012, 8:34:41 AM2/19/12
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"DrTeeth" <no-e...@tardis.com> wrote in message
news:qh30k7plhauq12len...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 16:06:54 -0000, just as I was about to take a
> herb, "Jim gm4dhj ..." <james.st...@ntlworld.com> disturbed my
> reverie and wrote:
>
>>bloody 1800 Mc/s only systems
>
> You've got a three-letter call m8, what's this Mc/s stuff?
>
> 73s de G4DWV, 4X1LT
cycles per second describes it better than the name of some foreign bloke
> herb, "Jim gm4dhj ..." <james.st...@ntlworld.com> disturbed my
> reverie and wrote:
>
>>bloody 1800 Mc/s only systems
>
> You've got a three-letter call m8, what's this Mc/s stuff?
>
> 73s de G4DWV, 4X1LT
don't you think ? ........
Jon Pitts
Feb 19, 2012, 11:21:52 AM2/19/12
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"Clive Page" <use...@page2.eu> wrote in message
news:9q6p2j...@mid.individual.net...
> The adoption of the "everything everywhere" brand is more than a bit
> ironic. I've just returned from a trip to Costa Rica. I thought that my
> orange sim in a 4-band phone would work there, as Costa Rica is was on a
> list of countries with charge rates that I found on the Orange site. But
> it turns out that Orange has no roaming partner there, and my phone did
> not work.
>
>
> ironic. I've just returned from a trip to Costa Rica. I thought that my
> orange sim in a 4-band phone would work there, as Costa Rica is was on a
> list of countries with charge rates that I found on the Orange site. But
> it turns out that Orange has no roaming partner there, and my phone did
> not work.
>
>
> What is even more bizarre is that T-mobile, with which they are supposedly
> merged, does have roaming in Costa Rica. My phone works fine on a
> T-mobile mast in the UK, but presumably not abroad. Definitely NOT
> everything everywhere.
>
>
According to http://maps.mobileworldlive.com - Orange have roaming with
> merged, does have roaming in Costa Rica. My phone works fine on a
> T-mobile mast in the UK, but presumably not abroad. Definitely NOT
> everything everywhere.
>
>
"ICE" in Costa Rica, the same as all the other UK networks. Odd.
The T-Mobile website claims voice and text coverage but no GPRS roaming.
Pretty basic, then.
Rgds
Jon.
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