Call Recording - Definative Legal Source?
Dave Topping
Anyone know, please, of a website or source for a definitive (if available)
statement and/or legal position and/or law on the legality of recording
incoming and/or outgoing telephone calls with any connected equipment
directly to or along the line or by any involved service provider, for cases
except where the 'authorities' require it, in case where the calling or
called party is not made aware at any stage during a call that such a
recording is in operation?
Many thanks
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Bill Gates
It's hard to understand exactly what your asking, I presume you're trying to
cover as many bases as possible with such a long sentance. I you search
this question was asked recently and someone posted a website address that
was helpful.
Mr Geeza
legislation.
I believe there is an appropriate act of parliament called the
telecommunications act (or very similar).
HTH
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John Kenyon
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Try looking at HMSO.gov.uk and searching for
Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act
Data Protection Act
/john
Steve Maudsley
"Tony Holland" <thec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Let me add this:
>
> Everywhere in the world stockbrokers secretly record clients
> instruction, they know such recordings are illegal but the do it every
> single day, its important to know exactly what a client has said
> particularly when giving large buy or sell orders. You can imagine a
> typical dispute:
>
> Client places large sell order and the market goes up, the client
> disputes giving instructions, he's lost out and he don't like it and
> often such clients take the matter up with a solicitor who taking his
> client at his word issues due process.
>
> Even though the taping of the instruction was illegal, I have never
> known a judge who has refused to listen to the tape, no charges of
> illegal taping have resulted to my knowledge.
ISTR it is a requirement by the FSA to record such conversations.
Stratman
"Steve Maudsley" <ne...@sjmaudsley.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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If you look at the bottom of most bits of paper inviting you to part with
your money in exchange for untold riches, there is the phrase "Calls may
be recorded".
This clearly is giving you permission to do just that.
Well, that's my interpretation. Prove me wrong.
DD
choco
section which seems to cover all the bases, with links to the
governement sources.
Ruth
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Michael
"Tony Holland" <thec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Let me add this:
>
> Everywhere in the world stockbrokers secretly record clients
> instruction, they know such recordings are illegal but the do it every
> single day, its important to know exactly what a client has said
> particularly when giving large buy or sell orders. You can imagine a
> typical dispute:
I dont know what kind of dodgy situation you have in UK, but in Australia
stockbrokers tape their calls and have the mandatory "taping tone" on the
line every 15 seconds
Timothy Morris
the call is being recorded. If one of them does then no tone or disclaimer
is required - that's how investment banks can record every conversation and
stay within the law. When I was working in a dealing room even the payphones
were recorded and mobiles were banned (in case of insider dealing)
Tim
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> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:00:11 GMT, "Michael" <mic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > have the mandatory "taping tone" on the
> >line
>
> No such thing here. Though a "not listening" or "not understanding"
> tone might be of use.
>
>
> --
>
> Iain
> the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones
> http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html
> Browse now while stocks last!
Martin²
know
>the call is being recorded.
>If one of them does then no tone or disclaimer
>is required -
The second sentence is Wrong ! If you wish to record the call, you must
inform the other party, that's it.
Which is why you frequently get a recorded message that calls 'may' be
recorded for 'training purposes'...
Regards,
Martin
bigbrian
>>It is only illegal without a court order if neither of the participants
>know
>>the call is being recorded.
>
>>If one of them does then no tone or disclaimer
>>is required -
>
>The second sentence is Wrong ! If you wish to record the call, you must
>inform the other party, that's it.
There is no such requirement.
>Which is why you frequently get a recorded message that calls 'may' be
>recorded for 'training purposes'...
No, it isn't
Brian
Steve Terry
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> "Tony Holland" <thec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e796b693.04060...@posting.google.com...
> I dont know what kind of dodgy situation you have in UK, but in Australia
> stockbrokers tape their calls and have the mandatory "taping tone" on the
> line every 15 seconds
>
introduced the "Crown (non) Prosecution service" and "Charters",
we don't have any law and order anymore.
Police pointlessly round up drunks and druggies for the courts to let go.
While Asian / Albanian Pimps groom young white girls in Bradford / London.
African illegal immigrants work as casual staff for the royal mail
so they can steal credit cards and anything useful, so much so
the credit card companies won't use the royal mail anymore.
Locally to me, armed Jamaican yardy gang fought off Police trying to
support OFCOM officials trying to close down a pirate radio station on
a mast in a MOD site. So they handed the problem over to military police
who are now expecting a gun battle with them soon.
A friend of mine was threaten at illegal gun point by Islamic Turks,
because he helped the abused wife of one of the get to a womans shelter.
Police said to him, call us when they do something.
(this is in a country with no legal gun possession anymore)
We don't have a immigration problem in this country, we have enormous
and growing law and order problem, both British and immigrant criminals
have learnt through experience to have no fear of British law anymore.
Saddams mistake was he didn't hide out in London.
Steve Terry
Firaas Rashid
conversations in Britain without the permission of the parties to the
conversation.
Outgoing conversations which are recorded cannot be disclosed to third
parties without the permission of the parties to the conversation.
Firaas Rashid
thec...@hotmail.com (Tony Holland) wrote in message news:<e796b693.04060...@posting.google.com>...
> Let me add this:
>
> Everywhere in the world stockbrokers secretly record clients
> instruction, they know such recordings are illegal but the do it every
> single day, its important to know exactly what a client has said
> particularly when giving large buy or sell orders. You can imagine a
> typical dispute:
>
> Client places large sell order and the market goes up, the client
> disputes giving instructions, he's lost out and he don't like it and
> often such clients take the matter up with a solicitor who taking his
> client at his word issues due process.
>
> Even though the taping of the instruction was illegal, I have never
> known a judge who has refused to listen to the tape, no charges of
> illegal taping have resulted to my knowledge.
>
> Tony Holland
Steve Terry
"Firaas Rashid" <fir...@firaas.co.uk> wrote in message
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> It is completely legal to record both incoming and outgoing
> conversations in Britain without the permission of the parties to the
> conversation.
>
> Outgoing conversations which are recorded cannot be disclosed to third
> parties without the permission of the parties to the conversation.
> Firaas Rashid
>
Steve Terry
Hiram Hackenbacker
<g4...@despammed.com> wrote:
>> It is completely legal to record both incoming and outgoing
>> conversations in Britain without the permission of the parties to the
>> conversation.
>>
>> Outgoing conversations which are recorded cannot be disclosed to third
>> parties without the permission of the parties to the conversation.
>> Firaas Rashid
>>
>Has anyone ever been successfully prosecuted for doing so?
I have never heard of any prosecution. However it might be that a
Court has disallowed as evidence such a call.
I record the calls anyway - at the end of the day I wish to protect
myself and it will be for me to decide whether to make the content of
a call public.
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Hiram Hackenbacker
Charlie Mitchell
>ssfully prosecuted for doing so?
>
>I have never heard of any prosecution. However it might be that a
>Court has disallowed as evidence such a call.
>
>I record the calls anyway - at the end of the day I wish to protect
>myself and it will be for me to decide whether to make the content of
>a call public.
>
I'd love to be able to record my calls to call centres.
Does anyone have information on where equipment can be purchased from
please?
Cheers.
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Charlie Mitchell.
To reply remove the spamtrap.
Steve Terry
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<snip>
> I'd love to be able to record my calls to call centres.
>
> Does anyone have information on where equipment can be purchased from
> please?
> Cheers.
>
or the new Nokia 6230
Record hours of voice on the MMC
Steve Terry
PeteM
>
>>ssfully prosecuted for doing so?
>>
>>I have never heard of any prosecution. However it might be that a
>>Court has disallowed as evidence such a call.
>>
>>I record the calls anyway - at the end of the day I wish to protect
>>myself and it will be for me to decide whether to make the content of
>>a call public.
>>
>
>I'd love to be able to record my calls to call centres.
>
>Does anyone have information on where equipment can be purchased from
>please?
>
You can buy a gadget from Maplins for about £10. It plugs into the phone
socket (like a socket doubler), and has an output lead that feeds the
MIC socket on a tape recorder.
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PeteM
Wlodek
conversation? Anyone knows about suitable software?
TIA
W.
Ruth
seem to have quite a lot of detailed information, including links back to
the original sources. They have sections on all recording at work, and
recording employees which that might be useful. My understanding is that in
business use, if that is what you want, you don't have to tell the other
party at all during the call that it is being recorded. Ofcom just say that
you have to let the other party know in some way, which they deliberately do
not specify, but which could be terms and conditions, or in websites of
letterheads etc.
RuthWest
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