WePay from 3 = higher pre-pay call charges

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da leggere,
24 gen 2006, 13:19:2824/01/06
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You know the old saying about there is no such thing as a free lunch.......
well read on.

"WePay prices

The new WePay top-ups are easy to understand, all-cash vouchers available in
£10, £15 and £20 denominations, with no expiry date.

5p per minute cash credit for each minute of calls received
2p per text for texts received
10p a minute to call a 3 mobile anytime
30p a minute to other networks anytime
15p a minute to landlines and non-geographic numbers anytime
10p per text to any network
25p for a picture message to any network
50p per video message to any network"

From 3's Price Guide - Previous cash Top-Up Rates

10p a minute to call a 3 mobile anytime
10p a minute to landlines numbers anytime
20p a minute to other UK Mobile Networks
10p per text to any network
25p for a picture message to any network
50p per video message to any network

So they have increased the cost of MAKING calls on Wepay by 50% compared to
the previous cash top-up prices. 15p/min to landlines and 30p/min to other
networks. So it looks like take with one hand and give a little back with
the other.

Is WePay a good deal?

You get £6.00 credit back if you receive 100 minutes of inbound calls and
receive 50 texts. OK But if you make a similar amount of outbound calls to
other networks and landlines it will have cost you 10p/min more for the
calls to x/net mobiles and 5p/min more to landlines. Split it 50/50 and that
means that you would be paying £5.00 more for calls to mobiles and £2.50 for
calls to landlines.

Total extra cost £7.50

Amount of WePay Credit £6.00

More Expensive by £1.50!!

OH and just incase anyone forgot it's a lot dearer calling a 3 mobile most
times than any other network because their interconnect fees are much
higher!!

Wonder if many will fall for this scheme? Fresh now do texts for 5p and
x/net calls for 15p to all UK landlines and mobiles. WePay looks very
expensive in comparison.


R. Mark Clayton

da leggere,
24 gen 2006, 14:02:4524/01/06
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"talk3g.co.uk" <ad...@talk3g.co.uk> wrote in message
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> You know the old saying about there is no such thing as a free
> lunch....... well read on.
>
> "WePay prices
>
> The new WePay top-ups are easy to understand, all-cash vouchers available
> in £10, £15 and £20 denominations, with no expiry date.
>
> 5p per minute cash credit for each minute of calls received

A very dangerous precedent - interesting calls to 3 are more expensive for
the caller as well.

> 2p per text for texts received
>

Very dangerous and vulnerable to marketing push / abuse.

talk3g.co.uk

da leggere,
24 gen 2006, 14:28:1524/01/06
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Employers might end up victim to abuse of this. Employees could gain credits
by calling their own phones from work. Bad news.

OFCOM really need to look carefully at interconnect rates and include 3 in
termination rate controls or they could be party to abuse like the above on
a huge scale.

Not only are ThreePay customers paying more to get credits through higher
outbound call charges but their friends and families are paying inflated
prices to contact their 3 phones, mostly in ignorance.

Really nasty exploitation of a privilage that was designed to reward
investment in new technology by Hutchison 3G UK. They have not made any
significant impact in the UK to date (for many obvious reasons) and this
scam will hopefully be recognised for what it really is.

3 - A cheap phone is only the start....


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Tariq

da leggere,
24 gen 2006, 14:33:2324/01/06
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R. Mark Clayton wrote:

> > You know the old saying about there is no such thing as a free
> > lunch....... well read on.

> > "WePay prices

> > The new WePay top-ups are easy to understand, all-cash vouchers available
> > in £10, £15 and £20 denominations, with no expiry date.

> > 5p per minute cash credit for each minute of calls received

> A very dangerous precedent - interesting calls to 3 are more expensive for
> the caller as well.

> > 2p per text for texts received

> Very dangerous and vulnerable to marketing push / abuse.

No - I think that 3 are paying YOU money to receive voice calls/texts -
not charging you to receive them.

Tariq

talk3g.co.uk

da leggere,
24 gen 2006, 14:56:4524/01/06
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They have just raised the cost of calling UK landlines and other mobile
networks by 50%..... so they might be paying you but you have to cough up a
lot more than you used to for the privilage!!

Not what you thought really - was it?


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AndreA

da leggere,
24 gen 2006, 15:13:5524/01/06
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Il giorno Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:02:45 +0000 (UTC), "R. Mark Clayton"
<nospam...@btinternet.com> con una bandiera della rinata
Fiorentina in mano e lo striscione "...e quindi uscimmo a riveder le
stelle " nell'altra cosi' parlo':


>> 5p per minute cash credit for each minute of calls received

>A very dangerous precedent - interesting calls to 3 are more expensive for
>the caller as well.

>> 2p per text for texts received

>Very dangerous and vulnerable to marketing push / abuse.

Very, very bad. This is the policy of our 3ITA and we're having a lot
of troubles thanks to this kind of autorecharge. The other networs are
changin' their policies and now we can't have any more promotion about
"free" sms e good voicecall prices because 3ITA has this aggressive
policy. Young people and other mobile-lamers actually are using the
mobile phone only for receiving and having a "incredible" balance :-/

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john

da leggere,
24 gen 2006, 15:22:4524/01/06
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"talk3g.co.uk" <ad...@talk3g.co.uk> wrote in message
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> You know the old saying about there is no such thing as a free
> lunch....... well read on.
>
> "WePay prices
>
> The new WePay top-ups are easy to understand, all-cash vouchers available
> in £10, £15 and £20 denominations, with no expiry date.
>
> 5p per minute cash credit for each minute of calls received
> 2p per text for texts received

I have never heard of a uk mobile company charging the customer for calls
received on his phone. I certainly wouldn't use it. Tesco is far cheaper
and charges only for calls made, not received.


Andy Pandy

da leggere,
24 gen 2006, 16:06:0324/01/06
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"talk3g.co.uk" <ad...@talk3g.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dr5r3f$6sb$1...@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> You know the old saying about there is no such thing as a free lunch.......
> well read on.
>
> "WePay prices
>
> The new WePay top-ups are easy to understand, all-cash vouchers available in
> £10, £15 and £20 denominations, with no expiry date.
>
> 5p per minute cash credit for each minute of calls received

Not at the weekend, surely?? It costs less than 4ppm to phone a 3 phone from a BT
landline at the weekend...you could make £30 by phoning the 3 phone at midnight
Friday and ending the call midnight Sunday!

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Andy


Andy Pandy

da leggere,
24 gen 2006, 16:13:3524/01/06
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"Andy Pandy" <spam8...@wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote in message
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Mind you it'd be spending about £113 with BT to get £144 credit which you'd probably
only be able to spend on calls from the 3 phone at those silly rates... so maybe not
such a good idea. Might be worth it with the BT CallMobile option, then it'd only
cost £85.

--
Andy


Sean

da leggere,
25 gen 2006, 05:47:4725/01/06
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I dont think you can read, three PAY you to recieve them, they don't
CHARGE you
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