Info required: pagers vs. mobile phones
Kath Beavan
Hi,
I have a BT cello Text Pager and I don't seem to have any problems at
all with receiving messages. I Live in Gwent, S.Wales so I don't know
whether or not the signal is any different there??
I hope that helps a bit
Kath
On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 23:00:22 GMT, b...@aristeus.demon.co.uk (Bob
Thomas) wrote:
>Hi all
>
>I've had a Cellnet contract for nearly a year, using an analogue Nokia mobile
>phone. However, where I live and work (Gwynedd, N.Wales, is crap for signals
>etc. To this end, I'm cancelling my subscription pronto! My question is, can a
>pager do any better?
>
>Any info greatly appreciated.
>
>TIA
>
>Bob
>
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Phil Riley
Bob Thomas wrote in message <344f337e...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>
> My question is, can a
>pager do any better?
>
Generally speaking pager messages seem to be broadcast on frequencies which
carry a lot better than GSM mobiles. Certainly my Hutchinson pager has
outperformed Vodafone in many areas of Wales, North of Scotland and the Lake
District.
You need to remember that an SMS message to a GSM will continue to retry
until the transmitter knows its delivered or until it times out (72 hours?)
A pager message will only try once and you only know you are missing a
message when you see a missing sequence number. For that reason I always
ask for a test message when I have been travelling and can thereby perform a
sequence check.
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A.D.B.Monro
"Phil Riley" <Phil....@btinternet.com> writes:
> You need to remember that an SMS message to a GSM will continue to retry
> until the transmitter knows its delivered or until it times out (72 hours?)
> A pager message will only try once and you only know you are missing a
> message when you see a missing sequence number. For that reason I always
> ask for a test message when I have been travelling and can thereby perform a
> sequence check.
Hutchison voicemail paging ("Pocket answering machine") automatically
retries every half hour until you call in to pick up the message.
(Up to a max of 6 hrs IIRC)
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On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:00:10 +0000, Matthew Haigh <repl...@address.in.sig>
wrote:
>The advantage with the phone is that someone can leave a voice message,
>which you will be notified of as soon as you come back into coverage,
>similarly an SMS message will be delivered as you become available
>again. If your pager misses it's message, you won't get it (without
>calling your paging company on the phone and asking for it to be
>resent).
I divert my phone to my pager, so when I'm out of coverage on my phone,
callers get sent through to my paging service... works well!
Best wishes
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Matthew Haigh
Bob Thomas said...
>Ok, basically, can anyone who has used a mobile telephone AND a pager in the
>same location, say for definite that the pager could receive calls that the
>mobile telephone couldn't, regardless of location?
No. Everything being equal, you will get better coverage with a pager.
However, there are locations that are nulls for the pager where a phone
from one network or another will work (all to do with the location
of the transmitters and local terrain). You cannot even say that a
particular town or city has complete coverage from either, you will
always manage to find a spot where they will fail.
If you want to be as sure as possible, get a mobile AND a pager. My
experience of them both is that you always tend to be in a bad location
at the critical time :( Pagers are relatively cheap nowadays, and it
will give you a backup line of communication if it is critical that
you are available at all times. You will have to educate people to
try both methods of contacting you, however.
The advantage with the phone is that someone can leave a voice message,
which you will be notified of as soon as you come back into coverage,
similarly an SMS message will be delivered as you become available
again. If your pager misses it's message, you won't get it (without
calling your paging company on the phone and asking for it to be
resent).
>
>Also, is using a numerical pager such a pain compared to a text pager.
This depends on you, and the messages you are expecting. If it will
always be something that cannot be conveyed in say 80 characters (this
varies depending on the paging company and pager), then you will
have to call the sender anyway, so a numeric pager is no worse than
a text one.
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Bob Thomas
On Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:00:10 +0000, Matthew Haigh <repl...@address.in.sig>
wrote:
>Bob Thomas said...
Thanks for the info - looks like I'm going to have to go down the numeric pager
route!
jAmES Lawson
hi...@ccl4.org (gARetH baBB) wrote:
> I haven't received calls on my pager.
Ah, but that's not what he asked - he said "the pager could receive calls".
My pager hasn't since I took the extention out of it's room. It can't
drink beer now either since I stapled its mouth.
> > Also, is using a numerical pager such a pain compared to a text pager.
> Matter of opinion, depends on who you expect to call your pager number.
I prefer alphanumeric, much more flexible seeing as they can be used as
'both'.
I wish you had an alphanumeric rather than a numeric.
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Bob Thomas
On Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:48:25 GMT, hi...@ccl4.org (gARetH baBB) wrote:
>In article <19971028....@ginkier.ccl4.org>,
> ch...@ccl4.org (jAmES Lawson) wrote:
>
>> My pager hasn't since I took the extention out of it's room. It can't
>> drink beer now either since I stapled its mouth.
>
>And it can't have sex since you cut its knob off.
>
>> I wish you had an alphanumeric rather than a numeric.
>
>Only so you can send me "penis".
ROFL :)
A.D.B.Monro
b...@aristeus.demon.co.uk (Bob Thomas) writes:
<snip>
>
> Thanks for the info - looks like I'm going to have to go down the numeric
>pager
> route!
not have been relevent. However, if I understand your requirements, you
are considering getting a pager to divert your mobile phone to so you
don't lose calls when out of phone coverage.
As I said previously, I use a Hutchison voicemail pager, which has the
advantages that for people calling me, it's just like an answering
machine, so they don't have to key in their number on a keypad as for
a numeric pager (I previously used a numeric pager, but found that
some people got confused). Also, unlike Calling Party Pays pagers,
the call costs for the divert and retrieval are reasonable, being
(IIRC) counted as Orange to Orange calls (Hutchison is part of Orange).
Charged at regional from BT and standard national for most other
mobiles - most CPP seem to be charged premium rate, and require
premium rate barring to be lifted. The automatic retry facility of
the voicemail also probably makes it more reliable than either
numeric or text message pagers. And if you know you're out of
coverage for a while, you can call in to the voicemail to check
for messages.
Your breakeven for this depends on how many calls you expect, but
the monthly charge for Hutch is about 10.50. Hutchison Customer
Services 0800 590059.
See http://ds.dial.pipex.com/barryp/paging.htm