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Chris Blunt

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May 22, 2012, 4:35:14 AM5/22/12
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A friend is visiting the UK for 2 weeks and needs a PAYG SIM to use
for data only. He'll have reasonably heavy usage during those couple
of weeks. No video streaming or massive file downloads but a lot of
emailing with attachments and web browsing. I'm guessing 50-100MB a
day, so probably 1GB for the entire period would be enough.

Can someone suggest a convenient no-contract PAYG SIM he could just
buy on arrival or order in advance that he could get and add a bundle
of data allowance to? The SIM would be just thrown away when he
leaves.

Chris

R. Mark Clayton

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May 22, 2012, 5:58:57 AM5/22/12
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Have a look at 3 - there may be an all you can eat P&G, or all you can eat
if you buy a big top up (even if you don't use it).

3 is a bit restricted to urban areas where wi-fi (often free) is pretty
pervasive now.

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Theo Markettos

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May 22, 2012, 6:42:29 AM5/22/12
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R. Mark Clayton <nospam...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Have a look at 3 - there may be an all you can eat P&G, or all you can eat
> if you buy a big top up (even if you don't use it).
>
> 3 is a bit restricted to urban areas where wi-fi (often free) is pretty
> pervasive now.

I'd recommend a 3 voice SIM. Then you can buy an 'internet monthly' addon
for £5 for 500MB, or a 1GB 'mobile broadband' addon for £10. Don't buy a
'mobile broadband' SIM, because that doesn't give you access to the
'internet monthly' tariff.

In my experience urban wifi is either extortionate, strangled or just plain
doesn't work. It might be fine if you're prepared to sit in coffee shops
all day but I find 3G to be cheaper and far less faff.

Theo

Steve

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May 22, 2012, 7:17:49 AM5/22/12
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"3 Original Broadband Ready to Go 1GB Preloaded Data Sim Card for
Mobile Devices". 1 GB/1 month GBP 3.90
http://tinyurl.com/d74dh2u

Roland Perry

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May 22, 2012, 8:52:58 AM5/22/12
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In message <4fbb75e3$0$2196$c3e8da3$4605...@news.astraweb.com>, at
12:17:49 on Tue, 22 May 2012, Steve <m...@privacy.net> remarked:
>"3 Original Broadband Ready to Go 1GB Preloaded Data Sim Card for
>Mobile Devices". 1 GB/1 month GBP 3.90
>http://tinyurl.com/d74dh2u

I was just about to buy one, then I saw it's a micro-SIM for an iPad.
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Roland Perry

Chris Blunt

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May 22, 2012, 10:21:26 AM5/22/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 13:52:58 +0100, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
wrote:
Most micro-SIMs I've bought come supplied as part of a larger
conventional sized SIM, which itself comes as part of a the original
old style credit card sized SIM. You snap out whichever part of the
SIM you need to fit the device you're using it in.

Chris

Roland Perry

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May 22, 2012, 10:50:45 AM5/22/12
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In message <s08nr7drc3fu13d7h...@4ax.com>, at 22:21:26 on
Tue, 22 May 2012, Chris Blunt <ma...@nospam.com> remarked:
>>>"3 Original Broadband Ready to Go 1GB Preloaded Data Sim Card for
>>>Mobile Devices". 1 GB/1 month GBP 3.90
>>>http://tinyurl.com/d74dh2u
>>
>>I was just about to buy one, then I saw it's a micro-SIM for an iPad.
>
>Most micro-SIMs I've bought come supplied as part of a larger
>conventional sized SIM, which itself comes as part of a the original
>old style credit card sized SIM. You snap out whichever part of the
>SIM you need to fit the device you're using it in.

Do you think this one is like that. Prepared to wager £4 on it?
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Chris Blunt

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May 22, 2012, 1:49:58 PM5/22/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 15:50:45 +0100, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
wrote:
I don't know what it's like. I was just relating my previous
experience. Do you know the answer?

Chris

Roland Perry

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May 22, 2012, 3:51:33 PM5/22/12
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In message <iaknr75fl9qst7uht...@4ax.com>, at 01:49:58 on
Wed, 23 May 2012, Chris Blunt <ma...@nospam.com> remarked:
>>>>>"3 Original Broadband Ready to Go 1GB Preloaded Data Sim Card for
>>>>>Mobile Devices". 1 GB/1 month GBP 3.90
>>>>>http://tinyurl.com/d74dh2u
>>>>
>>>>I was just about to buy one, then I saw it's a micro-SIM for an iPad.
>>>
>>>Most micro-SIMs I've bought come supplied as part of a larger
>>>conventional sized SIM, which itself comes as part of a the original
>>>old style credit card sized SIM. You snap out whichever part of the
>>>SIM you need to fit the device you're using it in.
>>
>>Do you think this one is like that. Prepared to wager £4 on it?
>
>I don't know what it's like. I was just relating my previous
>experience. Do you know the answer?

All I know about it what they say in the advert - which is that's a
micro-SIM. If it was also usable as a normal SIM I'd expect them to say
so.
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Roland Perry

Steve

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May 22, 2012, 7:13:51 PM5/22/12
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I didn't notice that. If it is a micro-sim, adapters can be bought
on ebay quite cheaply.

Chris Blunt

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May 22, 2012, 10:34:54 PM5/22/12
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On Tue, 22 May 2012 20:51:33 +0100, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
wrote:
Even if it was a micro-SIM it could still be used in a standard device
by using one of the plastic carriers. I have a few of those which I
carry around when I travel.

Three seems to be the recommendation of choice here so I'll order one
for my friend to pick up and we'll know the answer in a couple of
weeks.

Chris

Roland Perry

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May 23, 2012, 2:58:30 AM5/23/12
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In message <4fbc1db3$0$417$c3e8da3$4db3...@news.astraweb.com>, at
00:13:51 on Wed, 23 May 2012, Steve <m...@privacy.net> remarked:
>> >"3 Original Broadband Ready to Go 1GB Preloaded Data Sim Card for
>> >Mobile Devices". 1 GB/1 month GBP 3.90
>> >http://tinyurl.com/d74dh2u
>>
>> I was just about to buy one, then I saw it's a micro-SIM for an iPad.
>
>I didn't notice that. If it is a micro-sim, adapters can be bought
>on ebay quite cheaply.

I've bought the micro-SIM (and an adapter) from Amazon, so I'll be able
to try this out.
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Theo Markettos

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May 23, 2012, 6:12:06 AM5/23/12
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Chris Blunt <ma...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Three seems to be the recommendation of choice here so I'll order one
> for my friend to pick up and we'll know the answer in a couple of
> weeks.

There are some reviews here in case you're interested:
http://www.reghardware.com/2012/05/21/review_uk_carriers_network_vs_network/

Theo

Roland Perry

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May 24, 2012, 7:35:29 AM5/24/12
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In message <UmhcbBcW...@perry.co.uk>, at 07:58:30 on Wed, 23 May
2012, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> remarked:
>>> >"3 Original Broadband Ready to Go 1GB Preloaded Data Sim Card for
>>> >Mobile Devices". 1 GB/1 month GBP 3.90
>>> >http://tinyurl.com/d74dh2u
>>>
>>> I was just about to buy one, then I saw it's a micro-SIM for an iPad.
>>
>>I didn't notice that. If it is a micro-sim, adapters can be bought
>>on ebay quite cheaply.
>
>I've bought the micro-SIM (and an adapter) from Amazon, so I'll be able
>to try this out.

Arrived just now (both of them) and it's a normal SIM!

Someone else is selling the same thing for 1p (but £3.95 delivery).
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Roland Perry

Chris Blunt

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May 24, 2012, 7:49:40 AM5/24/12
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 12:35:29 +0100, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
wrote:
So there's no micro-SIM that you can push out from within the normal
SIM card? If not, that doesn't seem to be in accordance with what they
were selling it as.

Chris

Roland Perry

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May 24, 2012, 8:47:12 AM5/24/12
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In message <ur7sr7h595n736cft...@4ax.com>, at 19:49:40 on
Thu, 24 May 2012, Chris Blunt <ma...@nospam.com> remarked:
>>>>> >"3 Original Broadband Ready to Go 1GB Preloaded Data Sim Card for
>>>>> >Mobile Devices". 1 GB/1 month GBP 3.90
>>>>> >http://tinyurl.com/d74dh2u
>>>>>
>>>>> I was just about to buy one, then I saw it's a micro-SIM for an iPad.
>>>>
>>>>I didn't notice that. If it is a micro-sim, adapters can be bought
>>>>on ebay quite cheaply.
>>>
>>>I've bought the micro-SIM (and an adapter) from Amazon, so I'll be able
>>>to try this out.
>>
>>Arrived just now (both of them) and it's a normal SIM!
>>
>>Someone else is selling the same thing for 1p (but £3.95 delivery).
>
>So there's no micro-SIM that you can push out from within the normal
>SIM card? If not, that doesn't seem to be in accordance with what they
>were selling it as.

That's right, no push-out. So either they've shipped the wrong thing, or
it's been mis-described.

Apart from the size, which could be fixed with an adapter, why else
might a [micro]SIM be "iPad only? Rather than perhaps "Data only", and
therefore suitable for use in a dongle.
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Roland Perry

Chris Blunt

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May 24, 2012, 9:26:34 PM5/24/12
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On Thu, 24 May 2012 13:47:12 +0100, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
wrote:
They're probably just being cautious so that people don't order one
believing they can use it as it comes in a regular phone/dongle.

I must have bought five or six different micro-SIMs while traveling to
various countries and every one of them has come as part of a normal
sized SIM so that you have the option of which format to use.

Chris

Roland Perry

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May 25, 2012, 3:03:35 AM5/25/12
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In message <18ntr7l76lvkhf0ft...@4ax.com>, at 09:26:34 on
Fri, 25 May 2012, Chris Blunt <ma...@nospam.com> remarked:
>>Apart from the size, which could be fixed with an adapter, why else
>>might a [micro]SIM be "iPad only? Rather than perhaps "Data only", and
>>therefore suitable for use in a dongle.
>
>They're probably just being cautious so that people don't order one
>believing they can use it as it comes in a regular phone/dongle.

In this case, the one they sent *was* a standard size SIM, no press-out
etc. Maybe they just picked one from the wrong bin?
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Roland Perry

Chris Blunt

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May 25, 2012, 3:31:32 AM5/25/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 08:03:35 +0100, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
wrote:
I have one on order for a friend. We'll find out what they send us in
a few days from now.

Chris

Stephen Hammond

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May 25, 2012, 5:20:47 AM5/25/12
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http://ovivomobile.com/ look quite good 1GB per month for £5 one off
payment.

Stephen

Pete Forman

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May 25, 2012, 6:59:39 AM5/25/12
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"Stephen Hammond" <som...@imco.com> writes:

> http://ovivomobile.com/ look quite good 1GB per month for £5 one off
> payment.

Yes but check the conditions. You need to consent to your data being
tracked and adverts being served.

http://ovivomobile.com/about/

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Pete Forman
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Chris Blunt

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Jun 4, 2012, 7:25:39 AM6/4/12
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On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:31:32 +0800, Chris Blunt <ma...@nospam.com>
wrote:
Just to follow up on this, the SIM my friend received was a
conventional sized SIM, the same as you got. Looks like this is
definitely incorrect advertising rather than a mistake.

Chris
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Roland Perry

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Jun 5, 2012, 4:27:18 AM6/5/12
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In message <v8cqs7hu7jcfgmc6r...@4ax.com>, at 23:05:39 on
Mon, 4 Jun 2012, Peter <occassional...@nospam.co.uk> remarked:
>>Just to follow up on this, the SIM my friend received was a
>>conventional sized SIM, the same as you got. Looks like this is
>>definitely incorrect advertising rather than a mistake.
>
>There are £10 tools on Ebay which will cut them out.

A £10 toll to cut a £3 SIM, now that makes sense...

I used a pair of scissors, and while the iPad recognises the SIM I've
yet to get it to transfer any data.

Thanks for reminding me to find out why.
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Roland Perry

Chris Blunt

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Jun 5, 2012, 11:38:40 AM6/5/12
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>There are £10 tools on Ebay which will cut them out.

Thanks. I already have one of those.

Roland Perry

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Jun 5, 2012, 4:08:42 PM6/5/12
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In message <O9Bqdtjm...@perry.co.uk>, at 09:27:18 on Tue, 5 Jun
2012, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> remarked:
>>>Just to follow up on this, the SIM my friend received was a
>>>conventional sized SIM, the same as you got. Looks like this is
>>>definitely incorrect advertising rather than a mistake.
>>
>>There are �10 tools on Ebay which will cut them out.
>
>A �10 toll to cut a �3 SIM, now that makes sense...
>
>I used a pair of scissors, and while the iPad recognises the SIM I've
>yet to get it to transfer any data.
>
>Thanks for reminding me to find out why.

Well, it turns out it was working, just incredibly slow.
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Phil

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Jun 5, 2012, 5:42:42 PM6/5/12
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You can normally get them free from the networks website.

That how I got my 3 and O2 microsims.

Phil

Phil

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Jun 5, 2012, 5:45:06 PM6/5/12
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Chris Blunt <ma...@nospam.com> writes:
>
> So there's no micro-SIM that you can push out from within the normal
> SIM card? If not, that doesn't seem to be in accordance with what they
> were selling it as.
>
The O2 micro SIM I have is pushed out from within a standard SIM card,
but not the 3 SIM.

But O2 is not good for data...

Phil

Roland Perry

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Jun 6, 2012, 2:35:37 AM6/6/12
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In message <87fwa9z...@yahoo.com>, at 22:45:06 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012,
Phil <trigp...@yahoo.com> remarked:
>> So there's no micro-SIM that you can push out from within the normal
>> SIM card? If not, that doesn't seem to be in accordance with what they
>> were selling it as.
>>
>The O2 micro SIM I have is pushed out from within a standard SIM card,
>but not the 3 SIM.

From the same online dealer, or was this a more general comment?
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Roland Perry

Roland Perry

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Jun 6, 2012, 2:36:38 AM6/6/12
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In message <87k3zlz...@yahoo.com>, at 22:42:42 on Tue, 5 Jun 2012,
Phil <trigp...@yahoo.com> remarked:

>> Someone else is selling the same thing for 1p (but �3.95 delivery).
>You can normally get them free from the networks website.
>
>That how I got my 3 and O2 microsims.

With 1GB loaded? Got any urls.
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Roland Perry

Chris Blunt

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Jun 6, 2012, 4:33:55 AM6/6/12
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2012 07:35:37 +0100, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk>
wrote:
I see there a notice inside the package which reads "Not to be resold.
Property of Hutchison 3G UK Ltd.".

I suspect this dealer might be a bit dodgy and has probably got these
SIMs from a package which included a dongle as well. He might have
unlocked the dongle and resold both items separately.

Chris

Roland Perry

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Jun 6, 2012, 6:28:57 AM6/6/12
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In message <k65us7tlhcbeijf2b...@4ax.com>, at 09:33:55 on
Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Chris Blunt <ma...@nospam.com> remarked:
>I see there a notice inside the package which reads "Not to be resold.
>Property of Hutchison 3G UK Ltd.".

The second bit is standard.

>I suspect this dealer might be a bit dodgy and has probably got these
>SIMs from a package which included a dongle as well. He might have
>unlocked the dongle and resold both items separately.

Amazon themselves are selling the same item for �10.49, I wonder if that
says "not for resale" too?

The original dealer also has a 3G version for �13, which is pictured as
a micro-SIM.

When I bought a dongle with '3' bundled "Ready to go" SIM last year, the
SIM itself was packed separately from the instructions, and the
anti-tamper seal was attached to the outer box, not on the SIM envelope.
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Roland Perry

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Jun 13, 2012, 4:20:06 PM6/13/12
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In message <Fgy4qhrp...@perry.co.uk>, at 11:28:57 on Wed, 6 Jun
2012, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> remarked:
>>I see there a notice inside the package which reads "Not to be resold.
>>Property of Hutchison 3G UK Ltd.".
>
>The second bit is standard.
>
>>I suspect this dealer might be a bit dodgy and has probably got these
>>SIMs from a package which included a dongle as well. He might have
>>unlocked the dongle and resold both items separately.
>
>Amazon themselves are selling the same item for �10.49, I wonder if
>that says "not for resale" too?
>
>The original dealer also has a 3G version for �13, which is pictured as
>a micro-SIM.
>
>When I bought a dongle with '3' bundled "Ready to go" SIM last year,
>the SIM itself was packed separately from the instructions, and the
>anti-tamper seal was attached to the outer box, not on the SIM envelope.

I bought the SIM from Amazon (themselves, not the marketplace) and as
expected it also says "Not for Resale".

More curiously, it doesn't have an anti-tamper seal, and is therefore
like the ones you get with a dongle, rather than separately. (The SIM I
bought from the dealer originally mentioned in this thread had an
anti-tamper seal on the envelope).
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Roland Perry
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