moving to 3 - some questions
icarus
3 sim on my SE P900 ?
can I port my phone number to the 3 phone/ network ?
are there any services u can get on say orange or voda that u cannot get on
3 ?
is it true that in areas where 3 doesn't work it picks up and uses the O
network ? if so how well does this work and does it cost any extra ?
how poor does the 3 service get before it switches to O ? is the change
seamless ?
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gwyn
>can I port my phone number to the 3 phone/ network ?
Yes Number Porting is required by Ofcom so yes you can
>
>are there any services u can get on say orange or voda that u cannot get on
>3 ?
If you mean the new orange and voda 3g services then they allow full
data services whilst 3 have a walled garden to their own ontent only.
>is it true that in areas where 3 doesn't work it picks up and uses the O
>network ? if so how well does this work and does it cost any extra ?
>
>how poor does the 3 service get before it switches to O ? is the change
>seamless ?
Its supposed to work but i've heard stories on here that on some
phones the 3g/2g flip can take time to do and in a poor 3 area the
flip goes backwards and forwards or you end up not getting either
service and your phone disconnects.
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Woof
>If u move to three is it on a different mobile phone band ? i.e. can I use a
>3 sim on my SE P900 ?
It uses a different band. It's USTM, not GSM. 3 handsets will roam on
GSM, but the 3 sim won't work in a GSM handset.
>can I port my phone number to the 3 phone/ network ?
Yes
>are there any services u can get on say orange or voda that u cannot get on
>3 ?
Yes, the Internet for one.
>is it true that in areas where 3 doesn't work it picks up and uses the O
>network ? if so how well does this work and does it cost any extra ?
O2 network. It costs an extra 5p/min ouside your inclusive minutes.
>how poor does the 3 service get before it switches to O ? is the change
>seamless ?
Your call likely drop as the phone switches between 3 and O2.
Stephen
four...@talk21.com says...
> >is it true that in areas where 3 doesn't work it picks up and uses the O
> >network ? if so how well does this work and does it cost any extra ?
>
> O2 network. It costs an extra 5p/min ouside your inclusive minutes.
Rubbish!!!
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<use...@sausagefans.com> wrote:
>> O2 network. It costs an extra 5p/min ouside your inclusive minutes.
>
>Rubbish!!!
I'm sorry, I'm just going on the 3 price guide. Since I never use all
my minutes, I have no idea if they're printing rubbish or not. You're
obviously better informed than they.
Stephen
four...@talk21.com says...
> >Rubbish!!!
>
> I'm sorry, I'm just going on the 3 price guide. Since I never use all
> my minutes, I have no idea if they're printing rubbish or not. You're
> obviously better informed than they.
Crumbs, it is me talking rubbish, I apologise, I thought the poster was
suggesting it was an additional 5p if you were using O2.
Sorry
Ian Stirling
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:54:02 +0100, "icarus" <ica...@cold.com> wrote:
>>are there any services u can get on say orange or voda that u cannot get on
>>3 ?
>
> Yes, the Internet for one.
You can get email.
As I read the tarriffs, it's free, but there is a limit suggested of
20Mb/month.
There are some issues.
Graham Wilson
>can I port my phone number to the 3 phone/ network ?
>
Yes. I ported my number into 3 from Vodaphone.
>are there any services u can get on say orange or voda that u cannot get on
>3 ?
>
In my view, having been on vodaphone for two years, then having
switched to 3 for a year and having been on Orange for about the past
five weeks - I would say you will get a much better service on Orange
or Vodaphone. 3's service was utter rubbish.
>is it true that in areas where 3 doesn't work it picks up and uses the O
>network ? if so how well does this work and does it cost any extra ?
>
When the phone cannot get a 3 signal it switches to O2s network.
The 02 part of the network works well - much better than the awful
service when on the 3 part of the network.
3 part of the network = dropped calls, missed calls, inability to make
calls, "server busy" / "server busy" messages.
>how poor does the 3 service get before it switches to O ? is the change
>seamless ?
I found that it would drop the call. I would then have the frustration
of having to wait while the phone switched networks before I could
make a call again.
Don't waste your money with 3s network.
My parents used to have a mobile phone back in the 1980s when
Vodaphone very first lauched their service. I used to use their early
Vodaphone and the quality of the service for voice calls back then was
far superior than the current offering from 3.
Graham
Graham Wilson
>Its supposed to work but i've heard stories on here that on some
>phones the 3g/2g flip can take time to do and in a poor 3 area the
>flip goes backwards and forwards or you end up not getting either
>service and your phone disconnects.
3g/2g flip-flopping is a pain.
Phone logs on to 3g network. Then you loose signal and it switches to
2g. Then the phone discovers that there is a 3g signal available and
tries to switch back from 2g to 3g. It cannot get a 3g signal so it
goes back to 2g. It then tries again to switch to 3g.
As a result, you end up with voice calls going to answerphone and when
you try and make a call you cannot get a signal.
Graham
Stephen
gra...@dircon.co.uk says...
> 3g/2g flip-flopping is a pain.
>
> Phone logs on to 3g network. Then you loose signal and it switches to
> 2g. Then the phone discovers that there is a 3g signal available and
> tries to switch back from 2g to 3g. It cannot get a 3g signal so it
> goes back to 2g. It then tries again to switch to 3g.
>
> As a result, you end up with voice calls going to answerphone and when
> you try and make a call you cannot get a signal.
I have none of these problems.
David Marshall
Stephen (Sausagefans.com) <use...@sausagefans.com> wrote:
>> As a result, you end up with voice calls going to answerphone and when
>> you try and make a call you cannot get a signal.
>I have none of these problems.
It's a geographical problem - it only happens on the very edge of 3G
coverage.
The answer is more cell sites - which 3 are pursuing - but the problem is
NIMBYs holding up development.
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David Marshall
My experience is very different to Graham's. 3's network has been rock
solid for me.
Obviously, you rarely get people posting saying that everything's great -
it's human nature to complain, not to praise because it's working as
expected.
adrian
news:pod6i0lpseam3epnd...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:54:02 +0100, "icarus" <ica...@cold.com> wrote:
>
> >If u move to three is it on a different mobile phone band ? i.e. can I
use a
> >3 sim on my SE P900 ?
>
> It uses a different band. It's USTM, not GSM. 3 handsets will roam on
> GSM, but the 3 sim won't work in a GSM handset.
>
>
> >can I port my phone number to the 3 phone/ network ?
>
> Yes
Woth noting though that if you port and want to use the video calling
facility, you'll be issued with a separate number for video calls.
Another couple of questions which i can find answers to:
1) Does it cost to use 3's web portal (I'm not talking about the chargeable
downloads, but the standard text pages)
2) I see there is a 10 pound "all-you-can-eat" offering for chargeable
downloadable content. Is there a "fair-use" policy or some such gubbins
which applies.
Cheers
Adrian
Steve Terry
news:MPG.1b8db2afb...@news.individual.net...
> In article <7c87i01vrqclrn3rg...@4ax.com>,
> gra...@dircon.co.uk says...
> > 3g/2g flip-flopping is a pain.
> > Phone logs on to 3g network. Then you loose signal and it switches to
> > 2g. Then the phone discovers that there is a 3g signal available and
> > tries to switch back from 2g to 3g. It cannot get a 3g signal so it
> > goes back to 2g. It then tries again to switch to 3g.
> > As a result, you end up with voice calls going to answerphone and when
> > you try and make a call you cannot get a signal.
>
> I have none of these problems.
>
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
>
> >If u move to three is it on a different mobile phone band ? i.e. can I use a
> >3 sim on my SE P900 ?
>
> It uses a different band. It's USTM, not GSM. 3 handsets will roam on
> GSM, but the 3 sim won't work in a GSM handset.
>
<snip>
> >is it true that in areas where 3 doesn't work it picks up and uses the O
> >network ? if so how well does this work and does it cost any extra ?
>
>
If that was true, 3 would lose all their users overnight!
3 pay O2 any roaming charges.
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
> >are there any services u can get on say orange or voda that u cannot get on
> >3 ?
>
> Yes, the Internet for one.
>
It'll never catch on ;-)
BTW anyone know how long Homer Simpson has been 3's CEO?
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
"Graham Wilson" <gra...@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7087i01b7010eddiv...@4ax.com...<snip>
> In my view, having been on vodaphone for two years, then having
> switched to 3 for a year and having been on Orange for about the past
> five weeks - I would say you will get a much better service on Orange
> or Vodaphone. 3's service was utter rubbish.
>
So what you are saying is you don't have a factory reset Nokia 7600 on 3
Steve Terry
Graham Wilson
Marshall) wrote:
>In article <MPG.1b8db2afb...@news.individual.net>,
>Stephen (Sausagefans.com) <use...@sausagefans.com> wrote:
>>> As a result, you end up with voice calls going to answerphone and when
>>> you try and make a call you cannot get a signal.
>>I have none of these problems.
>
>It's a geographical problem - it only happens on the very edge of 3G
>coverage.
>
The problem is that you don't expect to be on the "edge of 3g
coverage" in a city centre. That was the problem that I found with 3s
coverage.
Graham
Graham Wilson
<adrian_nospam@nospam_burky.net> wrote:
>Woth noting though that if you port and want to use the video calling
>facility, you'll be issued with a separate number for video calls.
>
I ported in my number to 3. I was able to make and receive video calls
using my ported in number.
Graham
adrian
In that case, I stand corrected. I made the mistake of going of the info off
3's website ;-)
Here's the link:
http://www.three.co.uk/BlobServer.srv?blobdir=Ask3Download&blobfile=1592_oftel_leaflet.pdf.
Adrian
Graham Wilson
Marshall) wrote:
>Obviously, you rarely get people posting saying that everything's great -
>it's human nature to complain, not to praise because it's working as
>expected.
I think it is a little unfair to simply dismiss complaints about 3s
service on the grounds that it is human nature to complain.
The first mobile phone I ever used was back in the late 1980s on
Vodaphone. There was the odd problems, but generally it was reliable.
It was a reasonable service.
I had a phone on Mercury 121 (now T mobile) when they first launched
their network in the Midlands way back in the early 1990s. Generally,
They had the odd problem, but generally the service was reliable. It
was a reasonable service.
You expect problems with new technology. However, not the sort of
problems that I encoutered with 3 over 12 months.
I could have tolerated the problems with their video calling service
if it were not for the fact that their basic voice service was
dreadful.
Graham
Stephen
> You have a factory reset Nokia 7600??
No I live in norfolk!
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Steve Terry
> In article <2ohu0uF...@uni-berlin.de>, g4...@despammed.com says...
> > You have a factory reset Nokia 7600??
>
> No I live in norfolk!
>
for planning permission in your area :-)
It's a scientifically proven fact that 3G RF taints the taste of sausages ;-)
Steve Terry
Woof
<g4...@despammed.com> wrote:
>If that was true, 3 would lose all their users overnight!
>3 pay O2 any roaming charges.
Please find the voice section of 3's price plan below.
The service prices below apply to all 3toGo customers, plus VideoTalk
and Kit & Caboodle customers should they exceed their inclusive
limits.
Prices are for voice calls within the UK only.
3 to 3 calls, Calls to voicemail - 5p
Calls to UK landlines from the 3 video service area - 10p.
Calls to UK landlines from the voice & picture service area - 15p
Calls to other mobile operators - 25p
As I said, roaming on O2 (voice and picture service area) is priced at
5p/min more than using 3's own network outside your inclusive monutes.
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
Woof
<g4...@despammed.com> wrote:
>OK but if you exceed VT500 inc mins you should be on VT750 or higher tariff
I correctly answered the OP's general question about the charges for
roaming on O2. If you read the thread, you'll note the OP doesn't
have a 3 phone yet, let alone being on VT500. Your advice about being
on a suitable tariff is stunningly obvious, though.
tony sayer
<gra...@dircon.co.uk> writes
>On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 18:58:21 +0000 (UTC), da...@durge.org (David
>Marshall) wrote:
>
>
>>Obviously, you rarely get people posting saying that everything's great -
>>it's human nature to complain, not to praise because it's working as
>>expected.
>
>I think it is a little unfair to simply dismiss complaints about 3s
>service on the grounds that it is human nature to complain.
>
>The first mobile phone I ever used was back in the late 1980s on
>Vodaphone. There was the odd problems, but generally it was reliable.
>It was a reasonable service.
Beg to differ, when Voda's first digital offering was out it was pants
compared with their analogue network.....
>
>I had a phone on Mercury 121 (now T mobile) when they first launched
>their network in the Midlands way back in the early 1990s. Generally,
>They had the odd problem, but generally the service was reliable. It
>was a reasonable service.
>
>You expect problems with new technology. However, not the sort of
>problems that I encoutered with 3 over 12 months.
>
>I could have tolerated the problems with their video calling service
>if it were not for the fact that their basic voice service was
>dreadful.
>
>Graham
>
>
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> BTW anyone know how long Homer Simpson has been 3's CEO?
>
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;-)
Steve Terry
Stephen
> Be sure to run a NIMBY campaign should Hutchinson apply
> for planning permission in your area :-)
I'll slip this idea to the "Mothers against Hutchinson" :-)
> It's a scientifically proven fact that 3G RF taints the taste of sausages ;-)
He he he