USB DSL and connecting
Carl Robson
I have answered a few DSL related questions in this NG, but this one has
got me stumped for the moment.
I have ordered USB DSL from Timewarp to go on my Win2k Dual Celeron box.
Am I right in thinking that Win2k treats the USB DSL modem as yet another
DUN/RAS connection, so I should be able to use ICS to nekwork my Vaio and
Fiances PC using the Win2K built in NAT of ICS?
I have updated to SP1 Win2k.
I have already set up ZoneAlarm, and I am gradually setting up the
Applications that can runa as servers (going to be Win32 Apache, and WarFTP,
plus probabley Mdaemon for Mail, plus maybe a test icecast server), plus the
mail, browser apps and games that I use regularly. And checked it against
SheildsUP (with no servers running yet, all ports shown as present, but closed)
I have also installed innoculateIT (the free edition, and brought the
virus defs up to date.
Have I missed anything I should be aware for an always on connection?
As a seperate point, is there any way to get windows to log on the DSL
connection as a service, before any user logs on to the PC. I know in Linux,
usinf Linuxconf, when setting up your dialup, you can get dialups to connect at
boot time, not after login, can Win2K do anything similar. I would rather have
the machine running unattended, with out a user logged in, than leave it open
and vulnerable?
TIA
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Carl Robson
Carl Robson
The world would be a better place without the internet, then you wouldn't have
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Dave Emberton
> DUN/RAS connection, so I should be able to use ICS to nekwork my Vaio and
> Fiances PC using the Win2K built in NAT of ICS?
I'm 99% sure that you're right. But I haven't got it yet to try out.
> I have already set up ZoneAlarm, and I am gradually setting up the
> Applications that can runa as servers (going to be Win32 Apache, and
WarFTP,
> plus probabley Mdaemon for Mail, plus maybe a test icecast server), plus
the
> mail, browser apps and games that I use regularly. And checked it against
> SheildsUP (with no servers running yet, all ports shown as present, but
closed)
It should show all ports as "Stealth" not "Closed". That means your computer
isn't even acknoledging that it exists!
> As a seperate point, is there any way to get windows to log on the DSL
> connection as a service, before any user logs on to the PC.
I've been wondering this myself. Before now, I've used the schedule service
to run a .cmd file every 15 minutes that dials up the ISP and downloads
e-mail. This worked pretty well. You could do the same thing for this by
just scheduling it every minute (or something daft like that), so it would
never be off for long. This is a crap solution, but I think it ought to
work.
Also, if you had NT4 Server, you could download RRAS (routing and remote
access server) from Microsoft, and I think that lets you set up a
"permanent" connection like this. But I don't know about Win2K, and I don't
think it works on Worksation.
I'd be interested to know if you can work it out. I'd even be tempted to
write a service to do this myself.
Dave
Carl Robson
"Dave Emberton" <demb...@digitalworkshop.co.uk> wrote in message
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>And checked it against
> > SheildsUP (with no servers running yet, all ports shown as present, but
> closed)
> It should show all ports as "Stealth" not "Closed". That means your
computer
> isn't even acknoledging that it exists!
Can you set up Zonealarm to get shields up to show stealth on ports?
Any good tutorials for setting up ZA?
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Carl Robson
Carl Robson
> > Applications that can runa as servers (going to be Win32 Apache, and
> WarFTP,
> > plus probabley Mdaemon for Mail, plus maybe a test icecast server), plus
> the
> > mail, browser apps and games that I use regularly. And checked it
against
> > SheildsUP (with no servers running yet, all ports shown as present, but
> closed)
> It should show all ports as "Stealth" not "Closed". That means your
computer
> isn't even acknoledging that it exists!
net, if I move the Internet settings to medium, I can browse OK, does this
sound normal for ZA?
> Dave
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Carl Robson
/\/ / [ /<
was a bug in wink sp1 that screwed up all firewalls/NATs etc like winroute
and so on
Moving it to medium or gettin the latest update will sort this
If you are using a different OS then all i can say is that summin is wrong
:oD
Regards,
Rick
PS GIMMIE MY FSKING ADSL NOW!
"Carl Robson" <carl....@worldoffline.co.uk> wrote in message
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Big Jim Slade
to have to wait a while:
There is no win2k driver available for the Alcatel USB device at
present. Win 98 only (yes I have tried). Current estimates suggest the
Linux driver will be out first, and that has been tied up in the
paperwork stages for over a month now.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news etc...
Big Jim.
Carl Robson
<suc...@yahoo.com> had the genital spheroids to exhalt...
>if u installed Windows 200 Service Pack 1 then yes, this si normal. There
>was a bug in wink sp1 that screwed up all firewalls/NATs etc like winroute
>and so on
>Moving it to medium or gettin the latest update will sort this
>
>If you are using a different OS then all i can say is that summin is wrong
>:oD
>
>Regards,
>Rick
Cheers Rick, It is Win2k with SP1, and ZA, Is that the latest win2k update, or
the latest ZA update?
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Carl Robson
b...@bigjimslade.co.uk had the genital spheroids to exhalt...
>Sorry to cut through all the interesting security chat, but your going
>to have to wait a while:
>
>There is no win2k driver available for the Alcatel USB device at
>present. Win 98 only (yes I have tried). Current estimates suggest the
>Linux driver will be out first, and that has been tied up in the
>paperwork stages for over a month now.
>
>Sorry to be the bearer of bad news etc...
>
>Big Jim.
have ordered from timewarp, and confirmed from the Alcatel handbook, that
it does indeed work with Win2K. I was a bit sceptical, so I asked them to send
me a copy.
this was taken from the spec requirements for USB ADSL
1.Getting Ready for Installation
Minimum PC specification required:-
- Windows 98 or Windows 2000
- USB port
- CD ROM drive
- Pentium 133Mhz or higher
- 32 Mbytes of RAM or higher
and the install guide for Win2K
2.2 USB ADSL Modem Installation guide for Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional
NOTE: If you have any problems during the installation process please refer to
the note in the ''Uninstalling the USB modem'' section on the end of this
document.
Check inventory
The following items should be supplied to you:
5 Speed Touch USB modem
6 Installation and User Guide CD
7 ADSL lead
8 Line conversion plug (not needed in UK )
NOTE: You will also need the user name and the password supplied by Timewarp
Internet
So while it does state that the driver isn't certified yet in the manual(due to
time constrains which will be rectified eventually), It should work.
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Dave Emberton
update, or
> the latest ZA update?
I'd forgotten about that ;-). It's a ZA update, check out...
http://www.zonelabs.com/download_patch.htm
Dave
Dave Emberton
> It is unbelievable that <ge3rrs44ao47pb5bv...@4ax.com>,
> b...@bigjimslade.co.uk had the genital spheroids to exhalt...
> >present. Win 98 only (yes I have tried). Current estimates suggest the
> >Linux driver will be out first, and that has been tied up in the
> >paperwork stages for over a month now.
> - Windows 98 or Windows 2000
> - USB port
> - CD ROM drive
> - Pentium 133Mhz or higher
> - 32 Mbytes of RAM or higher
>
> and the install guide for Win2K
>
> 2.2 USB ADSL Modem Installation guide for Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional
>
> NOTE: If you have any problems during the installation process please
refer to
> the note in the ''Uninstalling the USB modem'' section on the end of this
> document.
I've been given the same info from Nildram. I'll be dissapointed if it
doesn't work with Win2K, but if you check out Alcatel's info here...
http://www.alcatel.com/telecom/asd/keytech/adsl/adsl/modem/usb.htm
it only mentions Win98. I thought they were meant to be making unified
drivers now?
Dave
Carl Robson
demb...@digitalworkshop.co.uk had the genital spheroids to exhalt...
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Carl
Carl Robson
demb...@digitalworkshop.co.uk had the genital spheroids to exhalt...
http://www.alcatel.com/consumer/dsl/produsb_desc.htm
So possibly it just means that somewhere along the way, the various pages has
got out of Sync.
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Carl
Dave Emberton
> http://www.alcatel.com/consumer/dsl/produsb_desc.htm
>
> So possibly it just means that somewhere along the way, the various pages
has
> got out of Sync.
Nothing like conflicting info is there.
Does anyone have it installed who can confirm it works?
Dave
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<snip>
>There is no win2k driver available for the Alcatel USB >device at
> present. Win 98 only (yes I have tried).
you obviously didn't try hard enough
the words "hapless techno weenie spring to mind"
Regards,
Rick
Carl Robson
I've just DLed Unisys Automate, I going to take it home and try it tonight.
There is a version that can run as a win2k/NT service, and can set up
tasks to run even when no one is logged in.
And guess what, it can do automated dialing to the internet.
But it's not cheap to buy, about $200 I think.
Depending on your morals regarding licenses, and programmers, there are
always ways around that.
I think most people know what they are.
ASTALAVISTA baby.
personally I buy or use what I can afford, more the better if it is free.
But I know some people don't have the money to register software for personal
use.
Thats why I like Zonealarm and InnoculateIT, free for personal Use
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Stroller
OK, look here:
http://alcatel.com/telecom/asd/keytech/adsl/adsl/support/stusb_pppoa_man.pdf
This is the 63 page manual supplied with the Alcatel - it seems quite
comprehensive & throughout it mentions Windows 2000, stating that
"Installation procedure is exactly as for W98 except although the boxes
appear slightly different".
I've just searched Deja for comments & it seems that the Alcatel USB is too
new to have had many documented problems.
Stroller.
Carl Robson
I added the patch, and rebooted, but even the security setting for
maximum, and the internet locked, shields up only shows ports as closed not
stealth?
Carl Robson
Stroller
Further to my previous unhelpful posting, I refer you to:
http://x59.deja.com/viewthread.xp?mhitnum=5&AN=665309904.1&frpage=threadmsg_
ct.xp&recnum=%3cMPG.141a28f3...@news.claranews.com%3e%231/1&back=
alt.internet.providers.america
which is obviously a bit of a mouthful, so I'll quote just a little:
Subject: Win2K HELP! Connecting to ISP with my new USB ADSL modem (Alcatel
Speed Touch)
Date: On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:51:12 +0100
> I have a new ADSL line (512Kbps) and an Alcatel Speed Touch USB modem. I
> have Windows 2000. Installation of the modem went fine, and everything is
> detected and connected to the line and computer.
>
> However, when I try to connect, it says "Verifying username and
password..."
> for 30 seconds, then gives up with the message: "Error 721: The remote
> computer is not responding".
I mailed the original poster & he confirms this was successfully resolved -
apparently the "Error 721" was at the BT end - and that he's now running the
Speedtouch USB under W2k, happy as fluffy bunny rabbit in the evening sun.
Stroller.
Carl Robson
> > Dave,
> > I added the patch, and rebooted, but even the security setting for
> > maximum, and the internet locked, shields up only shows ports as closed
> not
> > stealth?
> > Carl Robson
>
> patch works.
>
> I'm pretty sure ZA should put everything into stealth mode though. Perhaps
> you need to reinstall ZA?
>
> Dave
Did an uninstall and re-install and patch, worked great cheers.
Carl
Dave
wrote:
Currently running the Alcatel USB modem in 2K.......you need the
version 1.2 drivers.....anything prior to that refuses to install.
Provided your ISP provides these you'll be fine.
The only other thing is that currently they wont work (at least on my
system!) with a dual cpu config. The modem will either not start up or
crash when connecting. So might be worth checking that they do support
dual configs.
Dave
Carl Robson
Da...@roughlads.co.uk had the genital spheroids to exhalt...
>Currently running the Alcatel USB modem in 2K.......you need the
>version 1.2 drivers.....anything prior to that refuses to install.
>Provided your ISP provides these you'll be fine.
>
>The only other thing is that currently they wont work (at least on my
>system!) with a dual cpu config. The modem will either not start up or
>crash when connecting. So might be worth checking that they do support
>dual configs.
>
>Dave
Vaio, I might need to use the Vaio as the net connection
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Carl Robson
stroller....@bigfoot.com had the genital spheroids to exhalt...
>Further to my previous unhelpful posting, I refer you to:
>http://x59.deja.com/viewthread.xp?mhitnum=5&AN=665309904.1&frpage=threadmsg_
>ct.xp&recnum=%3cMPG.141a28f3...@news.claranews.com%3e%231/1&back=
>alt.internet.providers.america
>which is obviously a bit of a mouthful, so I'll quote just a little:
>
>Subject: Win2K HELP! Connecting to ISP with my new USB ADSL modem (Alcatel
>Speed Touch)
>Date: On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:51:12 +0100
>
>> computer is not responding".
>
>I mailed the original poster & he confirms this was successfully resolved -
>apparently the "Error 721" was at the BT end - and that he's now running the
>Speedtouch USB under W2k, happy as fluffy bunny rabbit in the evening sun.
>
>Stroller.
>
you are a star.
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Carl Robson
Carl Robson
Tried Automate4.5es with my RHA dialup account, couldn't actually connect
but then thats RHA and BT, not automate. It did dial on startup, rahter than
login though.
All I have to do is add MBM(so that I can automate CPUidle to keep that
little hotbox cool) and ZA( for security) to automate, and remove their login
startup entries. Might need to see if InnoculateIT starts before login?
Ah the fun we go through for broadband.
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Dave Emberton
> I added the patch, and rebooted, but even the security setting for
> maximum, and the internet locked, shields up only shows ports as closed
not
> stealth?
> Carl Robson
Sorry, I haven't installed SP1 at home yet, so I can't verify that the ZA
Carl Robson
demb...@digitalworkshop.co.uk had the genital spheroids to exhalt...
Good news on everything else though, just got a confirmation.
Fuel shortage or not, I will be installed Friday AM.
Using Automate4.5es I can set it to dial up a connection before login.
This looking very cool now.
Dave Emberton
> I added the patch, and rebooted, but even the security setting for
> maximum, and the internet locked, shields up only shows ports as closed
not
> stealth?
> Carl Robson
Sorry, I haven't installed SP1 at home yet, so I can't verify that the ZA
Mark Robinson
the v 1.2 drivers for the usb modem. Alcatel don't provide them to end
users, and my ISP although helpful, have been unable to supply them, as
they also seem to be having difficulty getting them from BT. I'm loathed
to re-install 98
Mark
Ben
"Mark Robinson" <ma...@urbanec1.com> wrote in message
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| My problem, probably like many other people, is actually getting hold of
| the v 1.2 drivers for the usb modem. Alcatel don't provide them to end
| users, and my ISP although helpful, have been unable to supply them, as
| they also seem to be having difficulty getting them from BT. I'm loathed
| to re-install 98
|
| Mark
|
| Dave wrote:
|
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Andrew
wrote:
>My problem, probably like many other people, is actually getting hold of
>the v 1.2 drivers for the usb modem. Alcatel don't provide them to end
>users, and my ISP although helpful, have been unable to supply them, as
>they also seem to be having difficulty getting them from BT. I'm loathed
>to re-install 98
There is a copy on http://www.adslguide.org.uk
Andrew