BT Infinity
David
http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumer/assets/fibre_map/index.html
Interestingly my Exchange is listed as getting it and last I heard from BT
was that my exchange would not be.
Regards
David
Davey
That finally confirms that I am way out in the sticks, my exchange isn't
mentioned anywhere.
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Davey.
Woody
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The checker says that my exchange is not yet enabled, but as my
exchange (Starbeck) runs off Harrogate and Harrogate is Infinite
now, what does that mean.
I am puzzled.
Think I'll stay with my solid 10MHz cable from VM....
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PeterC
Same here. I appear to be surrounded (nearest is about 8 miles away) but, as
usual, not enough info. to know which region I'm in.
Northampton (I'm a few miles to the south) can be: E. Midlands, South, East,
East Anglia(!), Midlands and other, bizarre, ones that never make sense.
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway
Davey
Agreed. I have never understood why Northampton is covered in the BBC East
news, to me it is a Midlands town.
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Wibble
"Woody" <harro...@ntlworld.spam.com> wrote in message
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10 MHz....thats different!
Woody
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Oops!
10Mb of course................
Dave Wade
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The cable might be solid but most Cabinets are cheap and nasty leftovers
from Nynex et al. The CE recently said they couldn't afford to make then
secure....
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/General-broadband-questions/Cabinets-no-doors/td-p/600115
A google image search turns up some lovely piccys....
Dave Wade
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/route79/sets/72157622008439642/detail/
PeterC
The TV transmitter for here is Sandy, but I have to use Oxford due to a
railway bank about 100m away. I feel more affinity to Oxford than to East
Angular, but none of the regions is suitable for Northampton.
Stony Stratford exchange is on a list for Infinity and part of SS is in
Northants, so it's getting closer.
Even so, I'd be v. happy with 5 - 6Mbps on a reliable basis.
Woody
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Depends where you are. Here we are a mixture of former Bell
Cablemedia and Yorkshire Cable both of which seem to have chosen
to install to good standards. Apart from a car running into a
local street cab (on a facing corner) a few weekends ago when we
were without service for 36 hours (TV back in 24hrs, broadband
nearly 36) and one Boxing Day of freeze frame about five years
ago we have never had any form of outage in the better part of
ten years.
Chris Davies
> The checker says that my exchange is not yet enabled, but as my
> exchange (Starbeck) runs off Harrogate and Harrogate is Infinite
> now, what does that mean.
About 6-9 months ago we got a big-ish shiny green box installed at the
bottom of our road, adjacent to the existing BT cabinet, followed by
about a month of very heavy through-the-door advertising for Infinity. I
assume that my line's connected to the Harrogate exchange near the bottom
of Montpelier Hill.
It may be that the Starbeck exchange really isn't yet enabled for
Infinity; certainly based on my experience BT will let you know all
about it when you're able to get it.
Virgin...? We have no cable over here at all. (And no non-satellite TV
signal worth speaking of, either.) But that doesn't stop them trying to
sell us their service.
Chris
Jasper
Must be a radio link :-)
Joan Archer
had ADSL the last few years, no chance of cable or fibre down here in my
part of South Pembs.
Joan Archer
http://crossstitcher.webs.com/
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George Weston
> I see our end of Wales doesn't get a look in, doesn't surprise me we've
> only had ADSL the last few years, no chance of cable or fibre down here
> in my part of South Pembs.
Not too good in south-east Wales either if you don't live in one of the
larger towns.
No mention of anything on the horizon for the Monmouth area.
George
John
wrote:
Great, Thirsk population 5000 coming in 2012. Ripon population 20000
no mention (as per usual)
But then, considering we haven't even got ADSL+2 yet, it doesn't
surprise me.
Peter Crosland
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ADSL2+ availability and FTTC are two separate entities and the roll out of
one is not directly dependent on the other.
Peter Crosland
Andy Burns
> ADSL2+ availability and FTTC are two separate entities and the roll out of
> one is not directly dependent on the other.
Indeed, one of the samller "in the sticks" exchanges round here has FTTC
but not ADSL2+
Bob Eager
I thought one of the factors was the financial profile of the
inhabitants.
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Robert
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:15:28 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Peter Crosland wrote:
>>
>>> ADSL2+ availability and FTTC are two separate entities and the roll out
>>> of one is not directly dependent on the other.
>>
>> Indeed, one of the samller "in the sticks" exchanges round here has FTTC
>> but not ADSL2+
>
> I thought one of the factors was the financial profile of the
> inhabitants.
>
I have always been of the impression in this neck of the woods that one
of the reasons we got FTTC was that we had a Virgin cable running into
the cul-de-sac!!!!
Robert
Peterborough
George Weston
>
>> Peter Crosland wrote:
>>
>>> ADSL2+ availability and FTTC are two separate entities and the roll out
>>> of one is not directly dependent on the other.
>>
>> Indeed, one of the samller "in the sticks" exchanges round here has FTTC
>> but not ADSL2+
>
> I thought one of the factors was the financial profile of the
> inhabitants.
>
In this area of South East Wales, Monmouth and its surrounding villages
have more than their fair share of millionaires (excepting yours truly!)
and we are still on "up to 8 Megs" ADSL with no sign yet of ADSL2, 21CN,
FTTC or FTTP.
On the other hand, Caldicot, about 10 miles away, and which has a much
lower demographic profile, is getting FTTC.
Go figure...
George
Bob Eager
That would also be a factor...
John
says...
It's all to do with how Ofcom classify your exchange, ie, Market 1 area,
Market 2 area etc. Can't remember the exact correlation but it's to do
with how many competitors are offering services from the exchange.
Samknows will tell you what your exchange is. For instance, my exchange,
LCBRN, is a Market 3 area, which means:
Four or more 'principal' operators provide broadband services at this
exchange. Service in this area has been deregulated!
R. Mark Clayton
"Bob Eager" <news...@eager.cx> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 19:49:47 +0100, Robert wrote:
>
>> On 21/08/2011 18:07, Bob Eager wrote:
>>> On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:15:28 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter Crosland wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ADSL2+ availability and FTTC are two separate entities and the roll
>>>>> out of one is not directly dependent on the other.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, one of the samller "in the sticks" exchanges round here has
>>>> FTTC but not ADSL2+
>>>
>>> I thought one of the factors was the financial profile of the
>>> inhabitants.
Indeed
>>>
>>>
>> I have always been of the impression in this neck of the woods that one
>> of the reasons we got FTTC was that we had a Virgin cable running into
>> the cul-de-sac!!!!
And the risk that the competition will take customers off you.
Andy Burns
> http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumer/assets/fibre_map/index.html
> Interestingly my Exchange is listed as getting it and last I heard from
> BT was that my exchange would not be.
Better lists ...
http://www.openreach.co.uk/accepting_orders
http://www.openreach.co.uk/coming_soon
http://www.openreach.co.uk/future_exchanges
Except that the "coming soon" list has Basford and Archer exhanges as
being in Leicester rather than Nottingham!
Andrew Benham
> David wrote:
>
>> http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumer/assets/fibre_map/
index.html
>> Interestingly my Exchange is listed as getting it and last I heard from
>> BT was that my exchange would not be.
>
> Better lists ...
>
> http://www.openreach.co.uk/accepting_orders
> http://www.openreach.co.uk/coming_soon
> http://www.openreach.co.uk/future_exchanges
Hmm. LNWIN shown in the "accepting orders" list, but BT Retail, Plusnet,
and ADSL24 all say "not available yet". My FTTC cabinet was only
installed in July, I think end of the year is the most realistic guess.
David
on the main road pavement near the GPO manhole covers, we do not have on the
ground cabinets in this area only Virgin Media cabinets which are about
double the size of these new ones.
Nothing on these estate roads yet.
Target date for BT Infinity is December 2011
Regards
David
chris
> On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 12:21:40 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> David wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumer/assets/fibre_map/
> index.html
>>> Interestingly my Exchange is listed as getting it and last I heard from
>>> BT was that my exchange would not be.
>>
>> Better lists ...
>>
>> http://www.openreach.co.uk/accepting_orders
>> http://www.openreach.co.uk/coming_soon
>> http://www.openreach.co.uk/future_exchanges
>
> Hmm. LNWIN shown in the "accepting orders" list, but BT Retail, Plusnet,
> and ADSL24 all say "not available yet".
Same here for my exchange.
I found a spreadsheet (or it was posted here, I forget) detailing the
percentage of houses per postcode that have FTTC enabled and most of the
postcodes around me have have it enabled 80-100% whereas my postcode is 0%!
John
says...
Not necessarily. Our exchange was due to go live with FTTC on 30th Sept
but it has now been brought forward to 1st Sept, our new fibre cab was
sited and fixed in place two weeks ago and the gang drew the fibre into
it last week - but it's only on the "coming soon" list above.
Brian Mc
: > Hmm. LNWIN shown in the "accepting orders" list, but BT Retail, Plusnet,
: > and ADSL24 all say "not available yet".
: Same here for my exchange.
They seem less tha useful lists! My exchange (SMAI) is first on the list of
"accepting orders" and I have SEEN some FTTC boxes near the town centre. On
the fringes of this (medium sized) town there is not a sniff! I woould
guess a 30% coverage at best!
mr simon
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/route79/sets/72157622008439642/detail/
>
I'm surprised in the photos of open VM cabinets that cables are labeled with
one house name.
I thought cable worked with one cable, say going around an estate, and then
'taps' were taken off that one cable for multiple subscribers.
As opposed to BT, where there must be a seperate pair for each subsriber
going back to the cab/exchange?
Andrew Benham
With cable, certainly around here, there are street cabinets which serve
around 30 houses, and then as each house subscribes a team comes and
runs a dedicated "coax+pair in one plastic moulding" cable from the house
to the cabinet. So that cable can be labelled with the house name/
number. I'm presuming that there's concentration of the phone
service back to, well whereever it goes back to...
Apparently the backup batteries are routinely stolen from these cabinets.
More pics here:
http://chriswoods.co.uk/2010/01/photos-inside-a-virgin-media-cable-street-
cabinet/
John
>On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 17:15:28 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Peter Crosland wrote:
>>
>>> ADSL2+ availability and FTTC are two separate entities and the roll out
>>> of one is not directly dependent on the other.
>>
>> Indeed, one of the samller "in the sticks" exchanges round here has FTTC
>> but not ADSL2+
>
>I thought one of the factors was the financial profile of the
>inhabitants.
I doubt it. Looking at the 2012 BT list posted by Andy Burns there
are two villages on the outskirts of Doncaster (pop 5k apiece) that
have a much lower financial profile than Ripon. Both are ex pit
villages (Armthorpe and Rossington) and although new modern housing
has improved both villages I can't see them matching Ripon.
Graham.
And here, this is one of the few streets in the district without Virgin cable, yet we
were one of the first to have a FTTC cabinet installed. I can see a strong commercial
argument for this strategy also.
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Andy Burns
> this is one of the few streets in the district without Virgin cable, yet we
> were one of the first to have a FTTC cabinet installed. I can see a strong commercial
> argument for this strategy also.
If BT were rolling-out their network concurrently with the cable
networks, I could understand the comptitive pressure leading to them
choosing identical areas, but given the head start cable has had, I
think if it was my choice I'd be picking off the areas where cable
hadn't reached by the time they ran out of money. OK, BT have to make
their network available to all providers, but they still make money from it.