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Nirvana

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Aug 6, 2007, 9:21:38 AM8/6/07
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Hi All,
I've broadband connection, Speedtouch 546 v6 router and i'm running
various servers (Web, e-mail etc) on Windows 2003+IIS 6.0

I've 8 static IP addresses provided by ISP which I wish to use so that
I can assign websites on different static IP Addresses.

Can anyone help me in setting up router for multiple static IP
Addresses? IT may not be speedtouch specific but can be general method
to set up multiple static IP Address.

At present I use NAT with single Static IP address and all servers
have same public static IP address.

Cheers

Nirvana

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Aug 6, 2007, 9:31:48 AM8/6/07
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I've been doing search on this and came to conclusion that
1) I need to get rid of NAT (Is this true)
2) Setup Static IP/Mask in router the way it is setup for Ethernet
addresses.
3) Assign these Static IP addresses to the Server
- This one seems to be tricky. Do I need to create multiple IP
Addresses on Server or Point all Static IP addresses to single IP
address on Server?
Since NAT has to be disabled then it seems that I can't use local IP
addresses and point static IPs to them?


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Nirvana

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Aug 6, 2007, 10:48:26 AM8/6/07
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On Aug 6, 3:35 pm, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:21:38 -0700, Nirvana <param_nirv...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I've broadband connection, Speedtouch 546 v6 router and i'm running
> > various servers (Web, e-mail etc) on Windows 2003+IIS 6.0
>
> > I've 8 static IP addresses provided by ISP which I wish to use so that
> > I can assign websites on different static IP Addresses.
>
> > Can anyone help me in setting up router for multiple static IP
> > Addresses? IT may not be speedtouch specific but can be general method
> > to set up multiple static IP Address.
>
> All you need to do is turn off NAT and assign the fixed IP addresses to
> the servers with netmasks of 255.255.255.255 and you don't need to specify
> a gateway.
>
> If you want to LAN the hosts for inter-host traffic to remain inside your
> property then that will cost you 3 IP addresses including one for the
> router/gateway. Then give the server hosts netmasks of 255.255.255.248
> and give the address of the LAN side of the router as the WAN gateway.
>
> Tony

Thanks Tony.
I'll try and see if I can figure it out.

When I turn off NAT the static IP Address goes to Router login page
from client.

So if I turn off and type the static IP address in web browser from a
client PC on Internet then the Router login page is displayed.

How to avoid this?

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Nirvana

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Aug 6, 2007, 11:09:41 AM8/6/07
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On Aug 6, 4:01 pm, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:48:26 -0700, Nirvana <param_nirv...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > When I turn off NAT the static IP Address goes to Router login page
> > from client.
>
> I'm not clear what you mean by "the static IP Address goes to".
>
> If you connect a computer workstation to the router, do not use DHCP but
> configure the workstation's network adapter interface IP address to one of
> the static addresses give by your ISP.
>
> Tony

"the static IP Address goes to" refers to typing any website's URL
which is hosted on server and which ends up in going to Router login
page. This happens always whenever I disable NAT.

Send part of answer seems to clearing out cloud. I'll give it a try
and let you know.

Thanks

Ron Lowe

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Aug 6, 2007, 11:42:13 AM8/6/07
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Well, here's how my no-nat multi-public-IP address setup is configured:

You have 8 IP addresses.
This means the subnet mask for your LAN is 255.255.255.248.

Let's say for example they are: 81.187.191.64 thru 81.187.191.71
The lowest and highest ( .64 and.71 ) are reserved, you cannot use them.
The first useable address ( .65 ) will normally be your router.

-> Configure the router LAN side as 81.187.191.65 / 255.255.255.284.
-> Leave the router WAN side to 'obtain automatically'.
-> Turn NAT off.

Now, assign IP addresses to your PCs as you see fit, you have addresses .66
thru .70 to use.
Yes, of your 8 addresses, you only have 5 useable for machines.

-> PC1 : IP = 81.187.191.66, Mask 255.255.255.248, Def. GW = IP of router
( 81.187.191.65 in this example. )

etc, etc.

That's all there is to it.

--
Ron

Of these, 2 are reserver ( the lowest and highest );

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Nirvana

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Aug 6, 2007, 12:39:47 PM8/6/07
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On Aug 6, 5:18 pm, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:42:13 +0100, "Ron Lowe"
>
> <ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS> wrote:
> > "Nirvana" <param_nirv...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1186406498.1...@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>

> >> I've 8 static IP addresses provided by ISP which I wish to use so that
> >> I can assign websites on different static IP Addresses.
>
> > You have 8 IP addresses.
> > This means the subnet mask for your LAN is 255.255.255.248.
>
> As I tried to explain, that approach costs 3 addresses in overhead for
> network address, broadcast address and the router). A LAN approach is
> great only so long as Nirvana only needs to use 5 of his 8 public
> addresses for host servers, workstations etc.
>
> Tony

5 is better than 1 as long as I make it work.
I don't have much in LAN I just need one Laptop to hook some times.

Trevor Rea

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Aug 6, 2007, 2:34:57 PM8/6/07
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Nirvana wrote:
> Hi All,
> I've broadband connection, Speedtouch 546 v6 router and i'm running
> various servers (Web, e-mail etc) on Windows 2003+IIS 6.0
>
> I've 8 static IP addresses provided by ISP which I wish to use so that
> I can assign websites on different static IP Addresses.

<snip>

On a Draytek 2600 this is known as Multi-NAT

http://www.draytek.co.uk/support/kb_vigor_multinat.html

Check your Speedtouch manual for something similar.

Nirvana

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Aug 6, 2007, 8:07:41 PM8/6/07
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On Aug 6, 5:18 pm, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:42:13 +0100, "Ron Lowe"
>
> <ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS> wrote:
> > "Nirvana" <param_nirv...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1186406498.1...@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>

> >> I've 8 static IP addresses provided by ISP which I wish to use so that
> >> I can assign websites on different static IP Addresses.
>
> > You have 8 IP addresses.
> > This means the subnet mask for your LAN is 255.255.255.248.
>
> As I tried to explain, that approach costs 3 addresses in overhead for
> network address, broadcast address and the router). A LAN approach is
> great only so long as Nirvana only needs to use 5 of his 8 public
> addresses for host servers, workstations etc.
>
> Tony


I've been working out on the same but can't figure out my static IP
ranges.

ISP has assigned me xx.xxx.xxx.240/29
What would be my starting static IP Address? 240 or 241.

The static IP Address I'm using now is 241.

Nirvana

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Aug 6, 2007, 8:43:28 PM8/6/07
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Here is what I did:
1) It seems that the starting IP Address is x.x.x.241, so I assigned
242 to LAN
xx.xxx.xxx.242 Mask 255.255.255.248
DHCP Off
NAT disabled

2) Configured the Server with additional static IP Address to use
xx.xxx.xxx.243 Mask 255.255.255.248
I also have the old IP addresses configured on my Server (10.0.0.1/2
Mask: 255.255.255.0)

3) To test I pointed one of my website to use xx.xxx.xxx.243 and
waiting for domain to be resolved.

So at this point of time I'm still on old configuration and also using
new configuration in no-nat-multi-static-ip configuration. I can tell
result only after 12-24 hrs

Am I doing any thing wrong?


I know I'm making it complex, but I just can't throw out old
configuration and switch to new one.

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Nirvana

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Aug 7, 2007, 10:24:39 AM8/7/07
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On Aug 7, 9:24 am, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:07:41 -0700, Nirvana <param_nirv...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ISP has assigned me xx.xxx.xxx.240/29
> > What would be my starting static IP Address? 240 or 241.
>
> You have been give 8 addresses from .240 through .247 inclusive and you
> can either use them all for 8 hosts or you can LAN them and use just .241
> through .246. Then address .240 is lost as the network address and .247
> as the broadcast address (for ARP) and you would also need to assign one
> to the router as the LAN gateway to WAN. The netmask is 255.255.255.248.

>
> > The static IP Address I'm using now is 241.
>
> Tony

I think I'm getting closer to it now ;)

All I need is to run webmail server on a different IP Address, than
what i'm using with IIS, and use port 80. I've configured Win2k3 box
to have multiple IP address 10.0.0.1, 10.0.0.2

I'll bind all IIS websites to use 10.0.0.1:80 and webmail server to
use 10.0.0.2:80

I might need to disable socket pooling http://support.microsoft.com/kb/238131

All seems to work in theory, i'll give it a try in evening and update
here...

cheers

Nirvana

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Aug 7, 2007, 7:20:21 PM8/7/07
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On Aug 7, 3:24 pm, Nirvana <param_nirv...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 9:24 am, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:07:41 -0700, Nirvana <param_nirv...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > ISP has assigned me xx.xxx.xxx.240/29
> > > What would be my starting static IP Address? 240 or 241.
>
> > You have been give 8 addresses from .240 through .247 inclusive and you
> > can either use them all for 8 hosts or you can LAN them and use just .241
> > through .246. Then address .240 is lost as the network address and .247
> > as the broadcast address (for ARP) and you would also need to assign one
> > to the router as the LAN gateway to WAN. The netmask is 255.255.255.248.
>
> > > The static IP Address I'm using now is 241.
>
> > Tony
>
> I think I'm getting closer to it now ;)
>
> All I need is to run webmail server on a different IP Address, than
> what i'm using with IIS, and use port 80. I've configured Win2k3 box
> to have multiple IP address 10.0.0.1, 10.0.0.2
>
> I'll bind all IIS websites to use 10.0.0.1:80 and webmail server to
> use 10.0.0.2:80
>
> I might need to disable socket poolinghttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/238131

>
> All seems to work in theory, i'll give it a try in evening and update
> here...
>
> cheers

Sorry I mixed it up I posted last reply to wrong thread... I was
sleeping ;) lol

Nirvana

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Aug 7, 2007, 8:32:27 PM8/7/07
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On Aug 7, 9:35 am, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:43:28 -0700, Nirvana <param_nirv...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Here is what I did:
> > 1) It seems that the starting IP Address is x.x.x.241, so I assigned
> > 242 to LAN
> > xx.xxx.xxx.242 Mask 255.255.255.248
> > DHCP Off
> > NAT disabled
>
> > 2) Configured the Server with additional static IP Address to use
> > xx.xxx.xxx.243 Mask 255.255.255.248
> > I also have the old IP addresses configured on my Server (10.0.0.1/2
> > Mask: 255.255.255.0)
>
> > 3) To test I pointed one of my website to use xx.xxx.xxx.243 and
> > waiting for domain to be resolved.
>
> I don't understand what you mean by "I pointed".

>
> > So at this point of time I'm still on old configuration and also using
> > new configuration in no-nat-multi-static-ip configuration. I can tell
> > result only after 12-24 hrs
>
> What should take more than a few milliseconds? You are not waiting for
> DNS as you are using numerical addresses. It should work immediately when
> configured correctly.
>
> For the server on .243, what was configured as its gateway address? If
> you are LANing the addresses you need to set the gateway addresses of all
> the LAN hosts to the LAN address of your router. What is the LAN address
> of your Speedtouch?

>
> > Am I doing any thing wrong?
>
> Not enough information yet.
>
> Try this:
>
> Speedtouch: set LAN interface to:
> IP Address: x.x.x.241
> Netmask: 255.255.255.248
>
> Server: set interface to:
> IP Address: .242 (or any other value from .242 through .246)
> Netmask: 255.255.255.248
> Gateway: x.x.x.241
>
> Tony

Here are my settings now

Speedtouch: LAN interface
IP Address: x.x.x.242
Netmask: 255.255.255.248

Server:
IP Address: x.x.x.243
Netmask: 255.255.255.248
Gateway: x.x.x.242

DHCP Off
Nat disabled
There is only one IP configured in Server i.e. x.x.x.243

I've changed A record of www.mydomain.com to use x.x.x.243

I can access www.mydomain.com from my Server (LAN)
I can't access www.mydomain.com from a client PC on Internet

What does it mean? Have I got LAN side setup correct but something is
missing in Router side?]

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Nirvana

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Aug 8, 2007, 5:11:25 AM8/8/07
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On Aug 8, 9:28 am, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 17:32:27 -0700, Nirvana <param_nirv...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Here are my settings now
>
> > Speedtouch: LAN interface
> > IP Address: x.x.x.242
> > Netmask: 255.255.255.248
>
> > Server:
> > IP Address: x.x.x.243
> > Netmask: 255.255.255.248
> > Gateway: x.x.x.242
>
> > DHCP Off
> > Nat disabled
> > There is only one IP configured in Server i.e. x.x.x.243
>
> > I've changed A record ofwww.mydomain.comto use x.x.x.243
>
> > I can accesswww.mydomain.comfrom my Server (LAN)
> > I can't accesswww.mydomain.comfrom a client PC on Internet

>
> > What does it mean? Have I got LAN side setup correct but something is
> > missing in Router side?]
>
> That looks very similar to my current setup except I use a Netgear router,
> my IP allocation is /27 so my mask is 255.255.255.224 and my ISP is AAISP.
>
> What is the WAN IP address of the router? The routing of my /27 is sent
> via a separate single IP WAN address (/32 netmask 255.255.255.255). Is
> that how your ISP does this?
>
> Just as a test, try configuring your server without the LAN configuration:
>
> Server:
> IP Address: x.x.x.243
> Netmask: 255.255.255.255
> Gateway: x.x.x.243
>
> And see whether that allows it to appear to the client PC on the Internet.
>
> Tony

I'm with Entanet via UKFSN

"What is the WAN IP address of the router?"
That is a very good question :)
How to find out what is the WAN IP address of my router?

"Just as a test, try configuring your server without the LAN
configuration:
Server:
IP Address: x.x.x.243
Netmask: 255.255.255.255
Gateway: x.x.x.243"

I would give it a try in evening and i'll update.

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Nirvana

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Aug 8, 2007, 6:20:14 AM8/8/07
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On Aug 8, 10:30 am, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 02:11:25 -0700, Nirvana <param_nirv...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Aug 8, 9:28 am, "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-m...@ahjg.co.uk> wrote:
> > I'm with Entanet via UKFSN
>
> Okay. Maybe Jason Clifford will suggest how to install and use the /29
> allocation via support (at) ukfsn.org.

>
> > "What is the WAN IP address of the router?"
> > That is a very good question :)
> > How to find out what is the WAN IP address of my router?
>
> That should be visible on the control screen/page of the connected router.
>
> Tony

"Okay. Maybe Jason Clifford will suggest how to install and use the /
29
allocation via support (at) ukfsn.org."

Jason and support? You must be kidding
He even doesn't listen to other important issues let alone fixing a
router with such complex issue for which I pay nothing to him...

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