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Al Bowlly

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:20:50 AM1/5/10
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O2 and Be Broadband customers suffered a slowdown in the last year,
against the market trend of improving speeds, it has been found.

Downstream for the two home broadband providers, who use the same
network, dropped on average by 13 per cent to 5.1Mbit/s, according to web-
based speed tests.

.. full spill ....>

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/04/o2_be_speeds/


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Jan 5, 2010, 4:53:07 AM1/5/10
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"Al Bowlly" <j...@none.ntd> wrote in message news:4b42e852$0$2531$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk...


> O2 and Be Broadband customers suffered a slowdown in the last year,
> against the market trend of improving speeds, it has been found.
>
> Downstream for the two home broadband providers, who use the same
> network, dropped on average by 13 per cent to 5.1Mbit/s, according to web-
> based speed tests.
>
> .. full spill ....>
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/04/o2_be_speeds/

"Despite the drop, it should be emphasised that O2 and Be jointly offered second highest average speeds, according to the survey."

So if you exclude VMs non-DSL connections, that still makes Be/O2 top of the pops according to this.

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David

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Jan 5, 2010, 5:04:27 AM1/5/10
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"Al Bowlly" <j...@none.ntd> wrote in message
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Not a 13% drop here, would have noticed that.
[URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/rank/1589762032.png[/IMG][/URL]


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David

Graham.

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Jan 5, 2010, 8:31:21 AM1/5/10
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"David" <david...@tesco.net> wrote in message news:hhv2qq$pgl$1...@news.albasani.net...

Beat ya :)-
http://www.speedtest.net/result/672405759.png

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Trent SC

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Jan 5, 2010, 8:54:15 AM1/5/10
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>>> O2 and Be Broadband customers suffered a slowdown in the last year,
>>> against the market trend of improving speeds, it has been found.
>>>
>>> Downstream for the two home broadband providers, who use the same
>>> network, dropped on average by 13 per cent to 5.1Mbit/s, according to
>>> web-
>>> based speed tests.
>>> .. full spill ....>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/04/o2_be_speeds/
>>>
>> Not a 13% drop here, would have noticed that.
>> [URL=http://www.speedtest.net][IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/rank/1589762032.png[/IMG][/URL]
>
> Beat ya :)-
> http://www.speedtest.net/result/672405759.png

Well, if we're all unzipping our flies...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/653248307.png


David

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Jan 5, 2010, 9:51:03 AM1/5/10
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"Trent SC" <Tre...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> http://www.speedtest.net/result/653248307.png
>
You must live in the Exchange!

I do not understand how the OP's survey got them on so low an average.
My summaries from our Speed Tester says
My Be average is 12.18Mb/s
My Be best 12.90
My area Be Avg 8.50
My area avg. 5.52
UK Be Avg. 9.30
Uk Avg. 5.56

Regards
David

Trent SC

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:56:21 PM1/5/10
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>> http://www.speedtest.net/result/653248307.png
>>
> You must live in the Exchange!

My line length is around 1.4km, but fibre to the cabinet was recently
installed, so I'm a v happy bunny.


Paul Cummins

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:39:00 PM1/5/10
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In article <hhvga8$das$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Tre...@invalid.invalid (Trent SC) wrote:

> *From:* "Trent SC" <Tre...@invalid.invalid>
> *Date:* Tue, 5 Jan 2010 13:54:15 -0000

5Km from the exchange, and generally happy :-)

http://speed.io/pics/2794/7543/speed.io.png

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David

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Jan 5, 2010, 1:44:34 PM1/5/10
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"Trent SC" <Tre...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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So you should be, think I'm about that distance, so if I get fibre then
might be in that speed region, do not know if I have a cabinet everything is
underground, only TV cable has cabinets.
Anyone know the roll out by BT of fibre any web check sites? ( Eg. like
the Sam Knows)
Regards
David

Nicola Redwood

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Jan 5, 2010, 2:30:46 PM1/5/10
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That article isn't clear as to whether O2 Access stats are included as
well - O2 Access being O2's IPStream service which has been suffering from
some time from severe congestion

I've not noticed any slowdowns :)


Eeyore

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Jan 5, 2010, 11:13:00 PM1/5/10
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Al Bowlly wrote:

> O2 and Be Broadband customers suffered a slowdown in the last year,
> against the market trend of improving speeds, it has been found.
>
> Downstream for the two home broadband providers, who use the same
> network, dropped on average by 13 per cent to 5.1Mbit/s, according to web-
> based speed tests.
>
> .. full spill ....>
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/04/o2_be_speeds/

Bear in mind that El Reg loves horror stories.

I moved to BE on the 15th of December using the halfprice offer on their
'Value' product.

For �6.75 p.c.m. I get this ...... "Download Speed: 7066 kbps (883.3 KB/sec
) Upload Speed: 1038 kbps (129.8 KB/sec )".

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1262751278&v=8867400

Graham

p.s the actual halfprice offer is over but the price still isn't much
different. I see they put a 40GB cap on it though.
https://www.bethere.co.uk/web/beportal/halfprice

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Al Bowlly

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Jan 7, 2010, 2:13:22 AM1/7/10
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On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:39:00 +0000, Paul Cummins struck up his trombone
and blew....

>
> 5Km from the exchange, and generally happy :-)
>
> http://speed.io/pics/2794/7543/speed.io.png

I hope that's not too near a school....
http://www.spampig.org.uk/user19881/paul_cummins.jpg

alexd

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Jan 7, 2010, 8:13:52 AM1/7/10
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Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.broadband Job Justification Hearings, Trent SC
chose the tried and tested strategy of:

I'm confused by this; I thought a) Be only did LLU and b) the FTTC stuff was
only available to BT resellers [hence Charles Dunstone's complaints:
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/news/bt-on-offensive-over-mobile-spectrum-
on-the-defensive-against-other-isps-10231.html]. So either Be are a BT
reseller or BT's FTTC works with LLU. Or your speed is a coincidence.

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Trent SC

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Jan 8, 2010, 5:05:44 AM1/8/10
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>>>> http://www.speedtest.net/result/653248307.png
>>>>
>>> You must live in the Exchange!
>>
>> My line length is around 1.4km, but fibre to the cabinet was recently
>> installed, so I'm a v happy bunny.
>
> I'm confused by this; I thought a) Be only did LLU and b) the FTTC stuff
> was
> only available to BT resellers [hence Charles Dunstone's complaints:
> http://www.samknows.com/broadband/news/bt-on-offensive-over-mobile-spectrum-
> on-the-defensive-against-other-isps-10231.html]. So either Be are a BT
> reseller or BT's FTTC works with LLU. Or your speed is a coincidence.

I can only go with my own observations: I was getting a steady 13-14 Mbps
and the phone line went dead one day; I looked out of the window and there
was a BT Openreach van parked outside and three workers digging a channel in
the pavement and working on a BT cabinet. Had a chat with one of them and
he confirmed that they were putting in fibre from the exchange to the
cabinet. 30 minutes later one of them knocked on the door, explained that
they'd reconnected me and that everything should be much better from now on.

I tested the connection an hour later and got the above results.


David

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Jan 8, 2010, 7:50:42 AM1/8/10
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"Trent SC" <Tre...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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Which results?
Do you mean 13-14 Mb before and still after?
Regards
David

Denis McMahon

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Jan 8, 2010, 11:37:33 AM1/8/10
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If you have fttc, then your line length is the distance to your cab.

Rgds

Denis McMahon

Trent SC

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Jan 8, 2010, 11:45:36 AM1/8/10
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See the link to the pang at the top of this post.


Trent SC

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Jan 8, 2010, 11:47:32 AM1/8/10
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Or PNG (pesky spellchecker...)


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