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Les Hemmings

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Dec 13, 2009, 12:51:27 PM12/13/09
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Hi all...

With the advent of mobiles I never seem to use my BT landline. Apart from my
ADSL Virgin.net broadband connection. Any idea on how I can continue with
broadband but drop the BT landline & it's rental fee?

I've been looking at Talk Talk's

http://www.talktalk.co.uk/products/broadband/essentials

as a possible
alternative. But it still supplies 'phone service I won't use! Any help
would be greatly appreciated.

My local exchange is

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange.php?ecode=NDFOL

Cheers!

Les

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Bob Eager

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:13:54 PM12/13/09
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:51:27 +0000, Les Hemmings wrote:

> Hi all...
>
> With the advent of mobiles I never seem to use my BT landline. Apart
> from my ADSL Virgin.net broadband connection. Any idea on how I can
> continue with broadband but drop the BT landline & it's rental fee?

There still has to be a pair of wires connecting you to the exchange
(cabke service aside). The cost of providing and maintaining that isn't
covered by the broadband fee. I agree that you don't necessarily want an
actual phone service, but BT control those lines (OLO providers aside,
and they all provide phone service too!).

The best you can hope for is a cheap phone service. You can get a phone
service that's incoming only, with a basic rental, from a few broadband
providers. That's probably the nearest you'll get. AAISP do that at
£11.50 per month:

http://aa.nu/broadband-services.html
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Peter Crosland

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:25:51 PM12/13/09
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"Les Hemmings" <l.c@v.n> wrote in message
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> Hi all...
>
> With the advent of mobiles I never seem to use my BT landline. Apart from
> my ADSL Virgin.net broadband connection. Any idea on how I can continue
> with broadband but drop the BT landline & it's rental fee?

If you want to use the BT line for broadband why do you think BT should
supply this facility free of charge? The reality is that the economics of
using broadband as a service that piggy backs on the phone line means the
costs of providing the line have to be paid one way or another. If you did
not pay for the phone service all the costs of providing the line and the
associated equipment would still have to be funded in some other way.

Peter Crosland


The Natural Philosopher

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Dec 13, 2009, 1:30:33 PM12/13/09
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Les Hemmings wrote:
> Hi all...
>
> With the advent of mobiles I never seem to use my BT landline. Apart from my
> ADSL Virgin.net broadband connection. Any idea on how I can continue with
> broadband but drop the BT landline & it's rental fee?
>

The only way I found on a non LLU exchange was to go to AN Other ISP,
transfer the line to them at less rental than BT and go PAYG on the calls.

Paulg0

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Dec 13, 2009, 2:49:27 PM12/13/09
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"Les Hemmings" <l.c@v.n> wrote in message
news:7oknt0F...@mid.individual.net...
> Hi all...
>
> With the advent of mobiles I never seem to use my BT landline. Apart from
> my ADSL Virgin.net broadband connection. Any idea on how I can continue
> with broadband but drop the BT landline & it's rental fee?
>

Do you have cable available in your street? ( www.virginmedia.com ) If not
then your cheapest option would be TalkTalk or similar. You can reduce your
BT line rental by moving it to someone like Primus @ �9.49 per month instead
of BT's �11.50 See
http://www.homephonechoices.co.uk/article.asp?id=primus-exclusive-line-rental&partner=mse
for details

Paul

Graham J

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Dec 13, 2009, 4:17:12 PM12/13/09
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"Les Hemmings" <l.c@v.n> wrote in message
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> Hi all...
>
> With the advent of mobiles I never seem to use my BT landline. Apart from
> my ADSL Virgin.net broadband connection. Any idea on how I can continue
> with broadband but drop the BT landline & it's rental fee?
>
> I've been looking at Talk Talk's
>
> http://www.talktalk.co.uk/products/broadband/essentials
>
> as a possible
> alternative. But it still supplies 'phone service I won't use! Any help
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> My local exchange is
>
> http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange.php?ecode=NDFOL
>
> Cheers!
>
> Les

The mobile suppliers (Three, Vodafone, O2, and the like) will also offer an
internet connection. Broadband is probably not a good description but may
be better than dial-up. In theory it's available everywhere you can use a
mobile phone, but in my experience it's available almost nowhere.

For everything except very light use it's probably more expensive than ADSL
over the phone. But it would mean that you don't have to pay anything to BT
!!!

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Chris Hills

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Dec 13, 2009, 5:48:21 PM12/13/09
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On 13/12/09 20:49, Paulg0 wrote:
> Do you have cable available in your street? ( www.virginmedia.com ) If
> not then your cheapest option would be TalkTalk or similar. You can
> reduce your BT line rental by moving it to someone like Primus @ �9.49
> per month instead of BT's �11.50 See
> http://www.homephonechoices.co.uk/article.asp?id=primus-exclusive-line-rental&partner=mse
> for details

Does Virgin still operate a mobile network? If so, it would be handy if
they could offer a router with cellular for backup in the case of a
cable outage.

Are there any other companies that offer wired+cellular combination service?

Then there's WiMax/WiFi/some other wireless depending upon regional
availibility.

Steve Terry

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Dec 13, 2009, 7:58:46 PM12/13/09
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"Les Hemmings" <l.c@v.n> wrote in message
news:7oknt0F...@mid.individual.net...
> Hi all...
> With the advent of mobiles I never seem to use my BT landline. Apart from
> my ADSL Virgin.net broadband connection. Any idea on how I can continue
> with broadband but drop the BT landline & it's rental fee?
>
> I've been looking at Talk Talk's
<snip>
>
>
If you are not a heavy user and are near a 3 cell, have you considered
PAYG 3 mobile broadband?

A 3g USB dongle (or i use a Skype S2 phone), with 5quid per month
internet add on gives me speeds around 2mbps d/l and 300kbps u/l
with a fair user limit of 2gb per month, but i often go well over that

I'm using it to send this

Steve Terry
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Les Hemmings

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Dec 13, 2009, 8:07:20 PM12/13/09
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Thanks everyone... just ordered Talk Talk's Essentials, free connection at
the mo and you can get 12 months call package free with a code from here
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/home-phone-calls#talktalk

I think I just cut my BB bil in half!

Les :o)


Bob Eager

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:38:55 AM12/14/09
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Possibly your connection speed and reliability too...just have to wait
and see! :-)

Les Hemmings

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Dec 16, 2009, 11:56:37 AM12/16/09
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Bob Eager wrote:
>
> Possibly your connection speed and reliability too...just have to wait
> and see! :-)

Currently with Virgin Media.. they'd have to be pretty dire to top the
hassles i've had with them in the past!

L


Mark

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Dec 17, 2009, 6:09:31 AM12/17/09
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Virgin media are about to start doing deep packet inspection on your
internet traffic. If you thought Phorm was bad - this is much worse:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/26/virgin_media_detica/

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Paulg0

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Dec 17, 2009, 7:15:54 AM12/17/09
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"Mark" <i...@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> wrote in message
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> Virgin media are about to start doing deep packet inspection on your
> internet traffic. If you thought Phorm was bad - this is much worse:
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/26/virgin_media_detica/
>

Loks like I left just in time then....... back with BE, much improved
speeds, no traffic management and no spying on what I''m doing....

Paul


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